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[BeaverFever]

26 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the first of Canada's CC-330 Husky's has been delivered

and lo & behold, it is not a Multi Role Tanker Transport

just as we suspected : it's Justin Trudeau's  Hair Force One !

did someone say Justin Nero wouldn't be around to get to fly in it ?

don't be silly, Hair Force One is the priority, that had to be delivered immediately

https://defbrief.com/2023/06/01/first-of-canadas-new-air-force-one-planes-heading-home/

Stop being a dishonest troll .

As was said in the OP and as DND has been shared very openly, 2 aircraft in Kuwaiti Airline commercial passenger configuration were delivered to address immediate transportation needs, up to and including the PM as required.  Contrary to your false insinuation, neither plane is even in VIP configuration, Trudeau will not have his own private space on the plane or even his own bathroom 

The existing VIP CC-150 was damaged FOUR YEARS AGO and hasn’t flown since 

 

 

Military considered delaying WW2 vets to fly Trudeau home after his plane was damaged

Government considering pulling planes from military exercises and cancelling flight for veterans

OTTAWA — When engine damage to his plane was set to strand Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in London, the military, with few planes to spare, was forced to consider pulling aircraft from military exercises and even the “unpalatable” option of delaying a group of Second World War veterans to bring him home.

An additional challenge in securing aircraft was that the government had difficulty finding enough people among Trudeau’s 52-person entourage to fly home on a commercial flight, according to the documents obtained through an access-to-information request.

….

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/military-considered-delaying-ww2-vets-to-fly-trudeau-home-after-his-plane-was-damaged/wcm/aed637f7-fe42-488a-8e62-c0bb202b1153/amp/

 

New jets for official travel won't have a private cabin for the PM — for now
 

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The A-310s are becoming more difficult to maintain as they get older. The original Airbus A-310 fleet was purchased by the Mulroney government in the early 1990s.

The A-330s are larger than the A-310s and have a much longer range.

 

To get the planes into service as soon as possible, the federal government says it is keeping the aircraft's seating the way the Kuwaitis ordered it "for an interim period."

Because the RCAF will maintain the commercial seating arrangement for now, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will fly without access to a private cabin — something he had on the A-310.

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https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6858381

 

 

 

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

,you have an interest in the army but only because you have a personal connection to

but that is the nature of HM Canadian Army and in fact all British armies

one doesn't join the "CAF"

the "CAF' is an absurd creation of the Liberal Party

which has had nothing but shame heaped upon it by its own government

one joins the regiment ; just another face in the ranks of the glorious thin red line

then that becomes your regimental family. the brothers to the left & right of you

that's the only thing any of us would go over the top for

nobody kills & dies for DND & the "CAF"

all that matters in the face of mortal peril

Is God, King, Country

Regiment, Colours, Commander-in-Chief

[BeaverFever]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

but that is the nature of HM Canadian Army and in fact all British armies

one doesn't join the "CAF"

the "CAF' is an absurd creation of the Liberal Party

which has had nothing but shame heaped upon it by its own government

one joins the regiment ; just another face in the ranks of the glorious thin red line

then that becomes your regimental family. the brothers to the left & right of you

that's the only thing any of us would go over the top for

nobody kills & dies for DND & the "CAF"

all that matters in the face of mortal peril

Is God, King, Country

Regiment, Colours, Commander-in-Chief

This is what I’m talking about with your unhinged drivel. The CAF is a creation of the liberal party? It makes you sound mentally unwell  

Stop ruining this thread please, let’s keep this for non-political interesting discussions not your private obsessions and derangements. 

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

This is what I’m talking about with your unhinged drivel. The CAF is a creation of the liberal party? It makes you sound mentally unwell  

Stop ruining this thread please, let’s keep this for non-political interesting discussions not your private obsessions and derangements. 

I served in the combat arms for 16 years and was decorated for my service

I was an instructor at the Royal Canadian Regiment Battleschool

I was a soldier who made other men into soldiers

I know it intimately down to the smallest detail

while you quite obviously don't know much about it

[Dougie93]

32 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

 2 aircraft in Kuwaiti Airline commercial passenger configuration were delivered to address immediate transportation needs,

those immediate needs of course being to fly Justin Trudeau to the WEF at Davos in style

again, DND in a nutshell

its no wonder that the Canadian military has collapsed

 Ottawa's champagne tastes on a beer budget

resulting in our pitifully equipped combat arms soldiers being sent to their certain deaths at the forlorn hope

 

[ExFlyer]

22 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

You’re just a disgruntled citizen who will invent an excuse to criticize anything and everything the government does especially if it’s a Liberal government. 

He is a disgruntled minor part time soldier that could not hack an entire career and thinks he knows what the military is about.

His extremely limited knowledge about military is obvious when all he can do is post videos of non relevance.

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

 How dare a mediocre, second-rate country like Canada aspire to rise above its station, that’s an insult to our betters,

Canada does that to itself

Canada is the institution which is incapable of building a proud fighting force

Canada is the institution which destroys its own military

I simply trace the origins of that

what is it about Canadian culture

which results in Canada being a shameless military free rider totally lacking in any martial wherewithal ?

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

He is a disgruntled minor part time soldier that could not hack an entire career and thinks he knows what the military is about.

His extremely limited knowledge about military is obvious when all he can do is post videos of non relevance.

says a Chair Force NDHQ desk jockey

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Yes but that’s in their home territory. STRATEGIC capabilities refer to operations in other parts of the world.  AFAIK Australian military doctrine is primarily focused on Fortress Australia (including surrounding ocean and airspace) and much less on deploying forces abroad compared to Canada 

The are very concerned about China's claims in the South China Sea. Hence the need for inflight refuelling and the change to nuclear subs. Australia had troops in Afghanistan, both Gulf Wars. in fact, they have been involved in most of the conflicts we have plus a few others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Australia

[ExFlyer]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

says a Chair Force NDHQ desk jockey

At least I can say I was a CWO with a full career and worked at NDHQ where I was privy to what was going on as opposed to a part time grunt and now sitting in his basement reliving his zero achievements.

[Dougie93]

Just now, ExFlyer said:

At least I can say I was a CWO with a full career and worked at NDHQ where I was privy to what was going on as opposed to a part time grunt and now sitting in his basement reliving his zero achievements.

CWO staff weenie at NDHQ doesn't have any cache

it's not like you were a combat arms RSM

 

[BeaverFever]

21 hours ago, Aristides said:

We only have 5 Polaris. What are they planning that will make 9 of these new aircraft necessary? Dougie93 has a point.

Given all the unfunded projects that the Chief of Defence Staff wants funded, I doubt he is intentionally choosing to spend more than he has to on this one capability.  
 

The 5 Polaris (currently 3 are operational as second one was damaged just recently while parked on the tarmac in France after a French A400M “came into contact” with it) included only 2 refuellers. There are NORAD and NATO capabilities we currently can’t meet. As for why 9 instead of 7 or 8 or 10 or 12 I can’t say.  Likely they won’t all be operational at the same time,  usually for any vehicle or aircraft fleet you plan to have some fleet rotation to allow for scheduled maintenance,  spare backup for unexpected surge requirements or repairs, and to minimize wear and tear. 

[ExFlyer]

15 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

CWO staff weenie at NDHQ doesn't have any cache

it's not like you were a combat arms RSM

 

Says a part time grunt living in the part time past.

NDHQ controlled your commanders and therefore you. You did what they told you and that was not much because you were not much. Getting your corporal hooks is automatic, not earned on merit.

Not being combat arms is a badge of honour to most. They could and became more. I have known some really great soldiers and you certainly are not one of them. Could not even make it as a full time soldier like Army Guy. I have seen and read many of your posts and can easily say you are a phony wanna be. All talk and little substance.

As a part time soldier you have no idea of what the Canadian military actually needs, wants or is required to do nationally and internationally. Your narrow scope of military service is an embarrassment to those real soldiers out there.

Edited July 30, 2023 by ExFlyer

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

Given all the unfunded projects that the Chief of Defence Staff wants funded, I doubt he is intentionally choosing to spend more than he has to on this one capability.  
 

The 5 Polaris (currently 3 are operational as second one was damaged just recently while parked on the tarmac in France after a French A400M “came into contact” with it) included only 2 refuellers. There are NORAD and NATO capabilities we currently can’t meet. As for why 9 instead of 7 or 8 or 10 or 12 I can’t say.  Likely they won’t all be operational at the same time,  usually for any vehicle or aircraft fleet you plan to have some fleet rotation to allow for scheduled maintenance,  spare backup for unexpected surge requirements or repairs, and to minimize wear and tear. 

there's no actual requirement for this capability at all

since military free rider Canada relies on allies to provide tanking for both NORAD & NATO

and a civilian jet could be leased to fly Justin Trudeau around at a tiny fraction of the cost

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

Says a part time grunt living in the part time past.

serving in a Militia infantry regiment is the best thing one can do in the military

truly a regimental family, embedded in the local community,making friends for life

I served with 1 RCR

and the real difference was that 1 RCR was better equipped with more training resources

otherwise, there wasn't any difference between Reg Force & Militia

and in fact, many 1 RCR soldiers had served in the Militia too

so there wasn't actually any rivalry between Militia & Reg Force in the battalion

the rivalry was actually between the Rifle Companies

Dukes vs Bravo vs Charles

 

[Dougie93]

12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

 

NDHQ controlled your commanders and therefore you.

not really

a Militia infantry regiment pretty much does as it pleases

the CO & RSM had broad latitude to operate at they saw fit

no staff weenie from NDHQ ever showed up to issue any orders

[ExFlyer]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

serving in a Militia infantry regiment is the best thing one can do in the military

truly a regimental family, embedded in the local community,making friends for life

I served with 1 RCR

and the real difference was that 1 RCR was better equipped with more training resources

otherwise, there wasn't any difference between Reg Force & Militia

and in fact, many 1 RCR soldiers had served in the Militia too

so there wasn't actually any rivalry between Militia & Reg Force in the battalion

the rivalry was actually between the Rifle Companies

Dukes vs Bravo vs Charles

 

Part time...part time...not even a real full time soldier  and in the Militia and not even reserves.

Tsk tsk, could not commit. Tsk Tsk

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Part time...part time...not even a real full time soldier  and in the Militia and not even reserves.

Tsk tsk, could not commit. Tsk Tsk

I was raised in downtown Toronto as a Toronto Maple Leafs fanatic

so I only ever wanted to join The 48th Highlanders of Canada

raised on 16 October 1891 by Leftenant Colonel John Irvine Davidson

as 48th Battalion ( Highlanders ) Volunteer Militia Rifles of Canada

and frankly, we got all the glory

most Canadians pay no attention to the Regular Force whatsoever

they know the 48th Highlanders from Hockey Night in Canada

but I doubt most Canadians even know what 1 RCR stands for

[Dougie93]

56 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

reliving his zero achievements.

I served on Op Feather 1990 and Op Harmony 1995

what operations did you serve on ?

I was an operational infantry soldier deployed downrange with live rounds in the magazine

what did you ever do ?

Edited July 30, 2023 by Dougie93

[ExFlyer]

14 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I was raised in downtown Toronto as a Toronto Maple Leafs fanatic

so I only ever wanted to join The 48th Highlanders of Canada

raised on 16 October 1891 by Leftenant Colonel John Irvine Davidson

as 48th Battalion ( Highlanders ) Volunteer Militia Rifles of Canada

and frankly, we got all the glory

most Canadians pay no attention to the Regular Force whatsoever

they know the 48th Highlanders from Hockey Night in Canada

but I doubt most Canadians even know what 1 RCR stands for

Who cares where you were raised and what hockey team you cheer for. LOL

If you believe most Canadians do not think of the real Military, imagine how little they think of you part timers LOL

And another of your useless videos LOL

Get over yourself Dude, you ain't nuthin in the Military scheme of things. 16 years in the part time weekend army and you could not even get promoted past the automatic corporal stripes. There are tons of guys out there that play in the  paintballl army on weekends with more service than you.

Not good enough to lead part time grunts and you think your comments hear have any credibility? Well your posts only prove your lack of real Military matters.

 

 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

If you believe most Canadians do not think of the real Military, imagine how little they think of you part timers

oh my goodness were we much beloved

Torontonians love the 48th Highlanders of Canada

we got the VIP treatment at every bar & club

girls throwing themselves at us, driven to distraction by the swish of our kilts

all the civilians in Renfrew Country hated 1 RCR

we had to fight for our lives down at the bars against Renfrew Country Townies who hated the "Pongoes"

[ExFlyer]

8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I served on Op Feather 1990 and Op Harmony 1995

what operations did you serve on ?

I was an operational infantry soldier deployed downrange with live rounds in the magazine

what did you ever do ?

Ha Ha Ha.

Ha, a private infantry man, well OK.

I served in SAR for most of my 35 year career, saving and assisting the lives of Canadians all over the country at the call of Rescue Coordination Centres or local police all over Canada and during most Canadian disasters. Whenever called upon out to sea, up north and everything in between. I served Canadians.

I also shot live rounds and was in the down range butts with live rounds over my head during my re-qualifications every year too, so, you are no big deal LOL

 

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

oh my goodness were we much beloved

Torontonians love the 48th Highlanders of Canada

we got the VIP treatment at every bar & club

girls throwing themselves at us, driven to distraction by the swish of our kilts

all the civilians in Renfrew Country hated 1 RCR

we had to fight for our lives down at the bars against Renfrew Country Townies who hated the "Pongoes"

Ha Ha Ha.

There is a show of endearment

Ha Ha Ha

Bottom line, who cares???  except you, a former part timer living in his basement.

[Dougie93]

11 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Ha, a private infantry man, well OK.

I truly loved every Private Soldier who ever served in my Rifle Section

they would follow me over the top without hesitation

they never questioned my orders, they never faltered

they worshipped me as I had worshipped my Section Commanders

that is truly an humbling experience

for young soldiers to put their lives in your hands, ready to follow you to their doom

the young Private Soldiers are the best of us

so eager, so keen, so naive

and when my father died

they all came to his funeral to pay their respects

God bless them

 

Edited July 31, 2023 by Dougie93

[ExFlyer]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

I truly loved every Private Soldier who ever served in my Rifle Section

they would follow me over the top without hesitation

they never questioned my orders, they never faltered

they worshipped me as I had worshipped my Section Commanders

that is truly an humbling experience

for young soldiers to put their lives in your hands, ready to follow you to their doom

the young Private Soldiers are the best of us

so eager, so keen, so naive

and when my father died

they all came to his funeral to pay their respects

God bless them

 

Give it up dude.

There were and are very excellent infantry persons in the Canadian Military.

Unfortunately, after the almost 20,000 posts by you, you are not one of them. You are an embarrassment to the profession. So many have told you so already yet you continue on. That is clearly a demonstration of inferiority complex. Never good enough to be a professional full time soldier so you make up by posting on a forum of your imaginary prowess.

Done talking with a loser. Have a great day.

[ExFlyer]

13 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

a service support trade staff weenie

who tries to aggrandize himself by rank alone

denigrating a decorated combat arms veteran as a "loser"

no wonder Canadians don't want to enlist in this military anymore

Thats it, a part time soldier denigrating a CWO with a career in SAR serving Canadians coast to coast for 35 years?

I do not aggrandize at all, just stating facts. Knowing that I was far more informed about military matters than you were and are.

I never denigrated decorated combat arms personnel, I even acknowledged them, it is you that are the wannabe, not the others, they did their time, honourably and do not continually aggrandize themselves as you do..