BOOM! Trump Getting Indicted AGAIN!!!

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Do what you will...if you can. Right now though...Hunter's laptop is every bit relevant as Carlson's text messages.

Not for evidence in court. It was ILLEGALLY ACQUIRED, with an unknown chain of custody, and therefore known as "fruit of the poisonous tree." AKA, NOT ADMISSIBLE in court.

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Really? Have you seen the approval ratings of the DOJ, FBI, and Joe Biden, of late?

Ya...I think the public is getting the jist of this. Globally.

Have you seen the clown car approval ratings of the HOUSE REPUBLICANS?

Losing track of a "whistle blower" and finding out he is an indicted criminal on the run, is far more memorable than the boring hearing they held yesterday.

Esp since ONLY FOS LIES aired it.

 

[Nationalist]

Just now, robosmith said:

Have you seen the clown car approval ratings of the HOUSE REPUBLICANS?

Losing track of a "whistle blower" and finding out he is an indicted criminal on the run, is far more memorable than the boring hearing they held yesterday.

Esp since ONLY FOS LIES aired it.

 

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

 

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“I’m having more ‘rational Republicans’ coming up to me and saying, ‘I just don’t know how long I can stay in this party.’ Now our party is becoming known as a group of kind of extremist, populist over-the-top people where no one is taking us seriously anymore.” — Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK). 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-senators-rattled-by-radical-conservative-populism/ar-AA1dXSUY

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-senators-rattled-by-radical-conservative-populism/ar-AA1dXSUY

And? Do you not think Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK). can be brought to heal or replaced?

[robosmith]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

And? Do you not think Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK). can be brought to heal or replaced?

I think Murkowski is accurately relating what more and more people are saying about her Party.

Will you be the last rat on the sinking ship?

[robosmith]

Special Counsel’s Jan. 6 Target Letter to Trump Mentions Conspiracy, Tampering

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The special counsel’s letter to Donald Trump related to Jan. 6 listed the federal statutes under which Trump is expected to be charged, including conspiracy, obstruction, and civil rights violations.

The letter mentions three federal statutes: Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud the United States; deprivation of rights under color of law; and tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant. It does not offer further details, nor does it detail how the special counsel believes Trump may have violated the statutes.

The letter does not mention statutes on sedition or insurrection… Trump is the only person named in the letter.

 

Edited July 20, 2023 by robosmith

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

I think Murkowski is accurately relating what more and more people are saying about her Party.

Will you be the last rat on the sinking ship?

No...Lisa can go if she likes. I'm sure her constituents want that. Right? I mean...the fine folks of Alaska would love to have the government control of natural resource mining...prolonged. Right?

[robosmith]

17 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No...Lisa can go if she likes. I'm sure her constituents want that. Right? I mean...the fine folks of Alaska would love to have the government control of natural resource mining...prolonged. Right?

Alaskans LOVE being paid for the resources extracted from their state

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Alaskans LOVE being paid for the resources extracted from their state

Sure they do. I understand the young voters hate the idea of Willow as much as the elder voters hate the idea that Willow is not the full project but about half the proposed project. Murkowski will have to ask herself which side her bread is buttered on.

[Rebound]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Do what you will...if you can. Right now though...Hunter's laptop is every bit relevant as Carlson's text messages.

Only because you are completely stupld. 
 

Carlson’s text messages were lawfully obtained with a legally-obtained court order based on upon probable cause. The contents of Biden’s laptop were illegally obtained. None of it cannot be used as evidence in court.   
 

And because you are extremely stupld, I need to point out: Hunter Biden is not an elected government official.  He certainly is not President. 

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Only because you are completely stupld. 
 

Carlson’s text messages were lawfully obtained with a legally-obtained court order based on upon probable cause. The contents of Biden’s laptop were illegally obtained. None of it cannot be used as evidence in court.   
 

And because you are extremely stupld, I need to point out: Hunter Biden is not an elected government official.  He certainly is not President. 

Huh...except Hunter is the gateway to Old Joe. Hunter is disposable. Joe's being disposed of.

Who's an extremely stupid boy? Yes...that's an extremely stupid boy...

*giggle*

[Rebound]

20 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Huh...except Hunter is the gateway to Old Joe. Hunter is disposable. Joe's being disposed of.

Who's an extremely stupid boy? Yes...that's an extremely stupid boy...

*giggle*

I don’t understand that. Hunter Biden became addicted to drugs after his brother died and he did a lot of stupid things. If he broke laws then he should be prosecuted. But that has nothing to do with his father.  You can pretend that Hunter’s behavior is the same as his father’s, but it is not the same. 

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I don’t understand that. Hunter Biden became addicted to drugs after his brother died and he did a lot of stupid things. If he broke laws then he should be prosecuted. But that has nothing to do with his father.  You can pretend that Hunter’s behavior is the same as his father’s, but it is not the same. 

$17,000,000 say different. That's the amount that's never been claimed. Its been distributed to various Biden family member as well as significant others. That committee can subpoena the bank records of all of them and see where it all went. It'll take time and be very embarrassing to all concerned...especially Old Joe.

[Rebound]

Just now, Nationalist said:

$17,000,000 say different. That's the amount that's never been claimed. It’s been distributed to various Biden family member as well as significant others. That committee can subpoena the bank records of all of them and see where it all went. It'll take time and be very embarrassing to all concerned...especially Old Joe.

Here’s the problem: You and your people do not understand what a “fact” is.  It’s like… that extra five or ten points of IQ just isn’t there. 
 

So when presented with overwhelming evidence that Donald Trump committed crimes, you can’t see the facts in front of you, and when presented with make-believe fantasy about Biden crimes, you see fact.  
 

Let them investigate all they want. So far, they haven’t come up with Jack Shlt. Hunter plead guilty to filing his taxes late, which is usually not charged at all.  Now two alleged whistleblowers show up… let’s see what they come up with. Congress has the right to subpoena Biden’s tax records so let them have at it.  So far, these asshats haven’t found anything. 

[Nationalist]

28 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Here’s the problem: You and your people do not understand what a “fact” is.  It’s like… that extra five or ten points of IQ just isn’t there. 
 

So when presented with overwhelming evidence that Donald Trump committed crimes, you can’t see the facts in front of you, and when presented with make-believe fantasy about Biden crimes, you see fact.  
 

Let them investigate all they want. So far, they haven’t come up with Jack Shlt. Hunter plead guilty to filing his taxes late, which is usually not charged at all.  Now two alleged whistleblowers show up… let’s see what they come up with. Congress has the right to subpoena Biden’s tax records so let them have at it.  So far, these asshats haven’t found anything. 

You're gonna lecture me on facts? Oh that's funny.

[Rebound]

8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

You're gonna lecture me on facts? Oh that's funny.

$17,000,000 is not a fact. It’s a number you pulled out of your butt.  It’s make-believe.  
 

Trump’s DOJ could not indict Hunter Biden. The prosecutor was Trump appointed.  So now the Republicans are creating a big conspiracy fest and waving around nude photos of Hunter Biden and digging under rocks to expose a non-existent conspiracy which prevented his indictment based upon evidence nobody has seen. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

$17,000,000 is not a fact. It’s a number you pulled out of your butt.  It’s make-believe.  
 

Trump’s DOJ could not indict Hunter Biden. The prosecutor was Trump appointed.  So now the Republicans are creating a big conspiracy fest and waving around nude photos of Hunter Biden and digging under rocks to expose a non-existent conspiracy which prevented his indictment based upon evidence nobody has seen. 

https://nypost.com/2023/07/19/foreign-nationals-gave-biden-family-and-associates-over-17m-irs-whistleblower-claims/

[Rebound]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

And? Do you not think Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK). can be brought to heal or replaced?

You mean “heel,” not “heal.”

Alaska just had a Congressional race and chose a Democrat over Sarah Palin.  So Murkowski is right where she wants to be: Republican but not MAGA. 

[robosmith]

47 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

https://nypost.com/2023/07/19/foreign-nationals-gave-biden-family-and-associates-over-17m-irs-whistleblower-claims/

"Biden family and associates" could be 30 people and no evidence is cited in your source what percentage of that is income vs. investment handled for the benefit of INVESTORS. 

How about we examine the $2 BILLION given to Jared Kushner by MBS? By comparison $30M is chump change. LMAO

"Selling influence" is not proof that unethical influence was PROVIDED. Not a good look, NOR a crime.

How about YOU DETAIL how much money was GIVEN to JOE with PROOF?

[West]

Getting indicted by a leftist loon is a badge of honor

[robosmith]

49 minutes ago, West said:

Getting indicted by a leftist loon is a badge of honor

That "badge" won't keep Trump out of prison.  Duh

[Nationalist]

14 hours ago, Rebound said:

You mean “heel,” not “heal.”

Alaska just had a Congressional race and chose a Democrat over Sarah Palin.  So Murkowski is right where she wants to be: Republican but not MAGA. 

Whichever...

You have a problem with making America great again?

[Nationalist]

On 7/20/2023 at 5:11 PM, robosmith said:

"Biden family and associates" could be 30 people and no evidence is cited in your source what percentage of that is income vs. investment handled for the benefit of INVESTORS. 

How about we examine the $2 BILLION given to Jared Kushner by MBS? By comparison $30M is chump change. LMAO

"Selling influence" is not proof that unethical influence was PROVIDED. Not a good look, NOR a crime.

How about YOU DETAIL how much money was GIVEN to JOE with PROOF?

So investigate Kushner. Who cares. And I think selling influence is a crime.

[robosmith]

New indictment proves Trump never learned the first lesson of Watergate

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If the allegations in the latest indictment of Donald Trump hold up, the former president is a common criminal — and an uncommonly stupid one.

Everyone knows, as the Watergate scandal drove home: The coverup is always worse than the crime. Everyone, that is, but Trump.

According to the superseding indictment handed up late Thursday, even after Trump knew the FBI was onto his improper retention of classified information, and even after he knew they were seeking security camera footage from the Mar-a-Lago storage areas where the material was kept — in other words, when any reasonably adept criminal would have known to stop digging holes — Trump made matters infinitely worse.

The alleged conduct — yes, even after all these years of watching Trump flagrantly flout norms — is nothing short of jaw-dropping: Trump allegedly conspired with others to destroy evidence.

As set out in the indictment’s relentlessly damning timeline, Trump enlisted his personal aide, Waltine Nauta, and a Mar-a-Lago worker, Carlos De Oliveira, in a conspiracy to delete the subpoenaed footage.

Consider: According to the indictment, on June 22, 2022, the Justice Department emailed to a Trump lawyer a draft grand jury subpoena for security camera footage. The next day, the former president called De Oliveira — who has reportedly worked for Trump for almost two decades — and they spoke for approximately 24 minutes. Hard to imagine what that might have been about.

After that, the pace picked up. Nauta claiming a family emergency, changed plans to accompany Trump to Illinois and made a secret trip to Florida, where he met up with De Oliveira. On June 27, 2022, De Oliveira met with another Trump employee, and, after saying the conversation should remain between the two of them, asked how many days the server retained video footage — and advised him that the boss wanted the server deleted.

Trump Employee 4 responded that he would not know how to do that, and that he did not believe that he would have the rights to do that, the indictment relates. De Oliveira then insisted to TRUMP Employee 4 that ‘the boss’ wanted the server deleted and asked, ‘what are we going to do?’

And then: At 3:55 p.m., TRUMP called DE OLIVEIRA and they spoke for approximately three and a half minutes.

That isn’t all. On August 26, 2022, two weeks after the FBI seized classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, Nauta called another Trump employee and said words to the effect of, ‘someone just wants to make sure Carlos is good.’ The employee reassured Nauta that De Oliveira would not do anything to affect his relationship with Trump. That same day, the indictment states, Trump called De Oliveira and assured him that Trump would get him a lawyer.

Even before this new evidence, the allegations of obstruction lodged against Trump were already damning. Wouldn’t it be better if we just told them we don’t have anything here? Trump allegedly asked his lawyer — after the documents were subpoenaed. He tried to get the lawyer to deep-six any problematic documents. As the lawyer recalled, He made a funny motion as though — well okay why don’t you take them with you to your hotel room and if there’s anything really bad in there, like, you know, pluck it out.

But drip by drip, count by count, obstructive act by obstructive act, the seriousness of this situation comes into focus, the stakes of the next election become clearer. Trump in office was willing to do whatever it took to remain in power. Trump out of office was willing to do whatever it took to keep my boxes. One demonstration of narcissistic entitlement bolsters the other and deepens the urgency of holding this man to account, once and for all, and for all that he has done.