Moving to Florida.

[NYLefty]

You know what it says to me, Im giving up, I'm old,. Moving into some cookie cutter community that can be blown away in the next hurricane? A community where old people get excited about the activities it offers like pool exercise programs ?. Where some illegal mows your lawn and trims your bushes?WTF.

I'll die in the good ole NY mountain rocks and dirt first. I own two tractors, 2 ATVs, about a dozen chainsaws not to mention 2 massive barns with a metal fab and wood working shop, three vintage 60s 70s hotrods. I log my land with my son's and love deer season and good cold Northern NY winters, I get excited over snow storms and getting up at 2am to plow out my 1/2 mile road. 

Yepper no phony patriot driving around in a golf cart with American flags on it for me. You can have it?

 

[Michael Hardner]

22 minutes ago, NYLefty said:

 

I'll die in the good ole NY mountain rocks and dirt first. ....

Yepper no phony patriot driving around in a golf cart with American flags on it for me. You can have it?

 

Well you know NY and Florida are BOTH nice.  Upper NY is almost like Canada it's so nice.  David Bowie's widow lives there, and they chose that place to live with everything they had - proximity to NYC and nature.  Speaking of nature, Florida has wonderful parks also.

It's a shame that people can't get together for better reasons than to argue about money and morality to enjoy it.

[NYLefty]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Well you know NY and Florida are BOTH nice.  Upper NY is almost like Canada it's so nice.  David Bowie's widow lives there, and they chose that place to live with everything they had - proximity to NYC and nature.  Speaking of nature, Florida has wonderful parks also.

It's a shame that people can't get together for better reasons than to argue about money and morality to enjoy it.

Too hot. Debilitating heat and smothering humidity. The woods are thick and nasty. Fire ants, pigs and Palmettos. Living cooped up in air conditioning, tourists, YOU CAN HAVE IT ?

[reason10]

7 hours ago, NYLefty said:

You know what it says to me, Im giving up, I'm old,. Moving into some cookie cutter community that can be blown away in the next hurricane? A community where old people get excited about the activities it offers like pool exercise programs ?. Where some illegal mows your lawn and trims your bushes?WTF.

I'll die in the good ole NY mountain rocks and dirt first. I own two tractors, 2 ATVs, about a dozen chainsaws not to mention 2 massive barns with a metal fab and wood working shop, three vintage 60s 70s hotrods. I log my land with my son's and love deer season and good cold Northern NY winters, I get excited over snow storms and getting up at 2am to plow out my 1/2 mile road. 

Yepper no phony patriot driving around in a golf cart with American flags on it for me. You can have it?

 

Florida doesn't want you. We want EDUCATED citizens. Right now, even the MEXICANS here (the ones who came as migrant workers and wound up buying and running actual farms) contribute more to our tapestry than ANY uneducated left winger from an inferior blue state.

Enjoy the snow,the smog and the HIGH TAXES.

[NYLefty]

I just got done doing some grilling in the heat of a NY summer and had to ask myself who the fug would wanna live in this shid more than a few short weeks in the summer 

[CdnFox]

On 7/13/2023 at 11:39 AM, NYLefty said:

. The woods are thick and nasty. Fire ants, pigs and Palmettos. Living cooped up in air conditioning, tourists, YOU CAN HAVE IT ?

Funny enough that's why YOU won't move there, but when asked the pigs, fire ants and palmettos all say you're the reason that they'd never live in back country new york  

Funny thing - most people have a lot of places they wouldn't live.  But almost none of them feel the need to go post that on a forum. It's just kind of something that is, unless someone asks them directly about it.

It kinda says you're pretty insecure about your decision. Is it that everyone else is choosing Florida and you're feeling left out or that maybe they're right and you're wrong?  What's the issue here

[WestCanMan]

On 7/13/2023 at 4:15 AM, NYLefty said:

You know what it says to me, Im giving up, I'm old,. Moving into some cookie cutter community that can be blown away in the next hurricane? A community where old people get excited about the activities it offers like pool exercise programs ?. Where some illegal mows your lawn and trims your bushes?WTF.

I'll die in the good ole NY mountain rocks and dirt first. I own two tractors, 2 ATVs, about a dozen chainsaws not to mention 2 massive barns with a metal fab and wood working shop, three vintage 60s 70s hotrods. I log my land with my son's and love deer season and good cold Northern NY winters, I get excited over snow storms and getting up at 2am to plow out my 1/2 mile road. 

Yepper no phony patriot driving around in a golf cart with American flags on it for me. You can have it?

Gimme a break. You're a simp with a man-bun, you wear sandals everywhere, you're hygienically challenged, and if you saw a real chainsaw from less than 10' away you'd faint. 

I've known more than my share of rural folk, no one has a dozen chainsaws. That's just stupid.

Go back to your racist posts, they're more authentic. 

[impartialobserver]

I have zero interest in ever visiting or living in Florida. Why? Too humid, too hot, and too many bugs. After having lived in the high desert (southern Idaho and Northern Nevada) for 46 years.. I have become a bit too used to the dry heat, lack of bugs, and mild weather. Second, I like mountains. I can be 9,000 feet elevation in 30 minutes from my house. Almost endless trails in Northern NV/Northern Cal and plenty of them will be empty on a given day. 

[Deluge]

On 7/13/2023 at 5:15 AM, NYLefty said:

You know what it says to me, Im giving up, I'm old,. Moving into some cookie cutter community that can be blown away in the next hurricane? A community where old people get excited about the activities it offers like pool exercise programs ?. Where some illegal mows your lawn and trims your bushes?WTF.

I'll die in the good ole NY mountain rocks and dirt first. I own two tractors, 2 ATVs, about a dozen chainsaws not to mention 2 massive barns with a metal fab and wood working shop, three vintage 60s 70s hotrods. I log my land with my son's and love deer season and good cold Northern NY winters, I get excited over snow storms and getting up at 2am to plow out my 1/2 mile road. 

Yepper no phony patriot driving around in a golf cart with American flags on it for me. You can have it?

 

How dare you talk about our undocumented guests like that? I want you to turn all your shit over to the government and report to the nearest public housing, like a good little democrat. 

No more BULLSHIT! DO IT!!

[reason10]

On 7/17/2023 at 1:25 PM, impartialobserver said:

I have zero interest in ever visiting or living in Florida. Why? Too humid, too hot, and too many bugs. After having lived in the high desert (southern Idaho and Northern Nevada) for 46 years.. I have become a bit too used to the dry heat, lack of bugs, and mild weather. Second, I like mountains. I can be 9,000 feet elevation in 30 minutes from my house. Almost endless trails in Northern NV/Northern Cal and plenty of them will be empty on a given day. 

From the novel "I Take This Land" by Richard Powell

A writer laughed and said, "You're giving me a good story but it won't sell land for you."

"I can wait, " Ward said. " I've been waiting eighteen years. I'm used to it. I had an idea this Okeechobee boom might bring a million people to southern Florida, but now that I see how the land's being sold, I don't want 'em. They'll be looking for soft living and won't find it. Tell 'em not to come down unless they're as tough as Joel Emmett. And tell 'em a lot of the promoters around here are running a plain goddam swindle, and some of them may end up going to jail. Well, I've talked myself out. We're coming to Joel Emmett's pier now, and you can go up to his shack and talk to him. My throat's dry and I need a drink."

Whatever image Hollywood has given of the average American family (and the wonderful picket fence house neighborhood where all the children thrive, etc etc) there isn't a single spot in this country that comes close to that. (Although Disney DID create Celebration City, just outside of Kissimmee, where there ARE picket fences and million dollar two bedroom homes. And that million dollars will only buy you a 99 year right to use, because Disney's "former" agreement with Florida and the Reedy Creek district hinges on its retaining title on ALL the land and real estate in the area. )

Florida during the summer is kinda like Jamaica or Mexico in November. This is a sub tropical region. There are much hotter and much more unpleasant areas of the world. You would NOT want to be in the Yucatan Peninsula in August, storms or no storms.

A lot of summers here in the past featured a daily afternoon thunderstorm season, which cooled the coastal areas very nicely,  making the out doors feel like a shopping mall AC. But that's not guaranteed for every summer.

There are hurricanes and Florida (as well as Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas) are all in the path. But they don't come every year either. And there's no way to predict them, their frequency, their power, even their direction.

Then again New England states occasionally get NorEasters, which is a fancy way of saying Yankee Hurricane. Weather affects every region of the US. States that get NO tropical storms generally have alerts about wind chill factors and people dying from hypothermia.

I grew up in North Carolina, where the summers would be hot, sticky and humid, and the winters would be ice cold with ice storms and a little snow. I left that state with the same urgency as someone running from a burning house. I'll return there only at gunpoint.

It'd be nice to see Texas again, but only the smaller towns. I have no desire to visit Dallas (where I was born) or Houston, (which was at one time a fun spot to be in the mid Seventies.)

I get to go out, travel maybe 30 miles and see a stunning Gulf sunset, (something people from all over the world spend a ton of money to travel here and see. I never get tired of that experience.

 

[impartialobserver]

45 minutes ago, reason10 said:

From the novel "I Take This Land" by Richard Powell

A writer laughed and said, "You're giving me a good story but it won't sell land for you."

"I can wait, " Ward said. " I've been waiting eighteen years. I'm used to it. I had an idea this Okeechobee boom might bring a million people to southern Florida, but now that I see how the land's being sold, I don't want 'em. They'll be looking for soft living and won't find it. Tell 'em not to come down unless they're as tough as Joel Emmett. And tell 'em a lot of the promoters around here are running a plain goddam swindle, and some of them may end up going to jail. Well, I've talked myself out. We're coming to Joel Emmett's pier now, and you can go up to his shack and talk to him. My throat's dry and I need a drink."

Whatever image Hollywood has given of the average American family (and the wonderful picket fence house neighborhood where all the children thrive, etc etc) there isn't a single spot in this country that comes close to that. (Although Disney DID create Celebration City, just outside of Kissimmee, where there ARE picket fences and million dollar two bedroom homes. And that million dollars will only buy you a 99 year right to use, because Disney's "former" agreement with Florida and the Reedy Creek district hinges on its retaining title on ALL the land and real estate in the area. )

Florida during the summer is kinda like Jamaica or Mexico in November. This is a sub tropical region. There are much hotter and much more unpleasant areas of the world. You would NOT want to be in the Yucatan Peninsula in August, storms or no storms.

A lot of summers here in the past featured a daily afternoon thunderstorm season, which cooled the coastal areas very nicely,  making the out doors feel like a shopping mall AC. But that's not guaranteed for every summer.

There are hurricanes and Florida (as well as Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas) are all in the path. But they don't come every year either. And there's no way to predict them, their frequency, their power, even their direction.

Then again New England states occasionally get NorEasters, which is a fancy way of saying Yankee Hurricane. Weather affects every region of the US. States that get NO tropical storms generally have alerts about wind chill factors and people dying from hypothermia.

I grew up in North Carolina, where the summers would be hot, sticky and humid, and the winters would be ice cold with ice storms and a little snow. I left that state with the same urgency as someone running from a burning house. I'll return there only at gunpoint.

It'd be nice to see Texas again, but only the smaller towns. I have no desire to visit Dallas (where I was born) or Houston, (which was at one time a fun spot to be in the mid Seventies.)

I get to go out, travel maybe 30 miles and see a stunning Gulf sunset, (something people from all over the world spend a ton of money to travel here and see. I never get tired of that experience.

 

You always contend that it takes the toughest of the tough to live in FL. You could say the same about other places which have inhospitable climates such as North Dakota/Eastern Montana (cold), Southern NV/Southern Cal/Southern AZ (intense heat) or parts of NV/ID/WY (isolation). Where I spent summers growing up; Shoup, Idaho.. is very remote. That kind of isolation takes a unique individual. Miles of dirt road with no one there. At the end of the dirt road.. civilization ends. If you venture north or south from this vantage point.. you might not see a single human being for 200+ miles. Keep in mind that this area is mostly roadless.