CdnFox Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 24 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Rebound's point is that Clinesmith didn't goto jail. Well that's a dumb point. He was still convicted of a crime and faced punishment for it. Quote In Rebound's mind, the fact that the FBI commits crimes to influence an election and no one goes to jail for it is a sign that there's no corruption. I think you're throwing that word "Mind" around a little loosely there big guy... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 On 6/22/2023 at 10:03 AM, CdnFox said: You think a reduced senence due to his long service some how reduces the seriousness of the crime? He also got fired and will never work in his chosen career again. You literally seem to be saying that the FBI committing a crime to go after a person illegally due to personal prejudices and motives is somehow ok or not serious because he didn't go to jail for it. Give your head a shake kiddo Yes, I think the judge knows the seriousness of the crime and sentenced appropriately. And your amateur Canadian legal eagle opinion is irrelevant to the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 Just now, robosmith said: Yes, I think the judge knows the seriousness of the crime and sentenced appropriately. Well then you're an !diot - he worked out a plea deal to save them a trial with the prosecutors. Not the judge. Yeash. You really don't understand how law works do you. And you're still suggesting that somehow the fbi breaking the law and going after a person illegally is just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 On 6/22/2023 at 10:14 AM, Nationalist said: Yet you can refute none of it. NEXT! Refute what? Carlsons dishonest OPINION that Hunter's plea was unfair? He PROVIDED NO EVIDENCE, and his credibility is SHOT, so my OPINION is just as valid as his if not more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 On 6/22/2023 at 10:39 AM, CdnFox said: I don't think you understand what 'weaponized' means. There's nothing weaponized about jurisprudence or legal accountability. It's when you use those things to attack an opponent to try to win power that it becomes weaponized. We know what it is, and you've just described what Trump has PROMISED to do with the DoJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: When the FBI commit crimes to get warrants to spy on Trump, it's corrupt. When the FBI give Hillary's associates immunity from prosecution for no testimony at all it's corrupt. When Hillary gets temporary amnesia twice in her lifetime, both times when she's to be officially interviewed by the FBI, and they just let her get away with it without even re-scheduling, it's because of corruption. When 50 former intel officials get together to tell the world that the laptop is Russian disinformation right before an election, despite the fact that the FBI had the laptop in their possession for 11 months and they know it's 100% legit, it's corruption. When the stupidest people on the internet all agree that there's no corruption, theres corruption. When you claim to "know" what the FBI knows, THAT'S corrupt. 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: We can name FBI agents who pleaded guilty to serious crimes but none that went to jail. Is that weird? Don't people usually go to jail for that? YOUR OPINION that a crime is "serious" does NOT overrule the JUDGE'S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Oh, you got a stupid meme. I'm convinced. NOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: How about Kevin Clinesmith. Or did you forget about him? Convicted of criminal charges for altering documents in the trump russia investigation. He was going to jail and while he managed to dodge it with a plea deal there's no doubt that he was found guilty of a jailable crime. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/ex-fbi-lawyer-agrees-one-year-bar-sanction-after-conviction-2021-06-28/ Got anything else? You got anything else? Nothing in your cite says jail was the mandatory sentence. In fact it says OTHERWISE. Quote The disciplinary counsel's office said it "does not believe that there is sufficient evidence to prove moral turpitude on the facts." The office pointed to other attorney ethics cases where a lawyer received a one-year bar suspension for the submission of a falsified document to a U.S. agency. The office also cited Clinesmith's otherwise decade of "distinguished public service" and said he was not driven "by any personal financial, economic or commercial motive." His conduct, the office said, "involves only a single incident, not a pattern of misconduct." Clinesmith met with the disciplinary office and cooperated with the ethics investigation. As a would-be aggravating factor, bar enforcers said Clinesmith's "misconduct has been used to discredit what appeared otherwise to have been a legitimate and highly important investigation" of Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 20 minutes ago, robosmith said: Refute what? Carlsons dishonest OPINION that Hunter's plea was unfair? He PROVIDED NO EVIDENCE, and his credibility is SHOT, so my OPINION is just as valid as his if not more. Errr...check again there robo-bot. Seems the judge didn't like the cozy little side deal any more than I did. Do have a warm and fuzzy day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 24 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well then you're an !diot - he worked out a plea deal to save them a trial with the prosecutors. Not the judge. Yeash. You really don't understand how law works do you. And you're still suggesting that somehow the fbi breaking the law and going after a person illegally is just fine. The JUDGE approved the SENTENCE. Duh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 Plea deal already? Jeez, I thought it took fifty years or more to investigate someone's taxes down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Now THAT'S funny! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Errr...check again there robo-bot. Seems the judge didn't like the cozy little side deal any more than I did. Do have a warm and fuzzy day. Doesn't change the FACT that Carlson provided NO EVIDENCE for HIS OPINION. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 Just now, robosmith said: Doesn't change the FACT that Carlson provided NO EVIDENCE for HIS OPINION. LOL...bye bye... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 3 hours ago, robosmith said: We know what it is, Is that the royal we? Or are you referring to all the voices in your head as well? Quote and you've just described what Trump has PROMISED to do with the DoJ. Not really 2 hours ago, robosmith said: The JUDGE approved the SENTENCE. Duh. No he didn't. And you're drooling again. Can't you get anything right? Or at least get a bib? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 2 hours ago, Contrarian said: Why it matters: Hunter Biden's legal team was stunned by what they expected would be a formality of a hearing that would allow Biden to avoid prison time. Catch up quick: Hunter Biden agreed in June to plead guilty to not paying taxes in 2017 and 2018. The DOJ charged Hunter with failure to timely file and pay taxes in 2017 and 2018 when, by his own admission, he was in the throes of an addiction to crack cocaine. Biden failed to pay between $1.1 million and $1.5 million in federal taxes before the deadlines at the time, the Justice Department said Wednesday. Biden lawyer Chris Clark in 2022 that his client had "fully paid" his tax debts, and had become "current" on tax obligations. The Justice Department also charged that Hunter possessed a Colt Cobra revolver in Delaware in October 2018 while “knowing that he was an unlawful user of and addicted to a controlled substance." What to watch: Any conclusion to this legal investigation would not be the end of the political investigations into Hunter. Hunter's longtime business partner, Devon Archer, is set to give testimony to the Republican-led House Oversight Committee in the next week. The two leading candidates for the GOP nomination, former President Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, have made clear they intend to talk about Hunter and his business dealings to go after Biden in the general election.https://www.axios.com/2023/07/26/hunter-biden-plea-deal-tax-gun-charges And I'm sure that Joe will talk about Kushner's $2 BILLION GIFT from MBS, not that the MAGA CULT will care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Is that the royal we? Or are you referring to all the voices in your head as well? Do you hear voices in your head? I don't. 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Not really Yes, REALLY. 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: No he didn't. And you're drooling again. Can't you get anything right? Or at least get a bib? I get everything right and that is what annoys you into posting ^these glib EMPTY responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 3 hours ago, Contrarian said: Hunter Biden enters NOT guilty plea after deal falls apart. A plea agreement between federal prosecutors and Hunter Biden fell apart after the judge refused to sign off on a deal that would have seen the president's son enter guilty pleas to two misdemeanor tax charges and enter a diversion program in lieu of pleading guilty to a felony gun possession count. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-plea-deal-court-judge/ Your selective quoting misrepresents the scenario: Quote A plea agreement between federal prosecutors and Hunter Biden fell apart Wednesday after the judge refused to sign off on a deal that would have seen the president's son enter guilty pleas to two misdemeanor tax charges and enter a diversion program in lieu of pleading guilty to a felony gun possession count. After the deal collapsed, Hunter Biden entered a not guilty plea. The judge, Maryellen Noreika, deferred the decision on the plea deal, saying "you are telling me to rubber stamp the agreement." The parties have 14 days to brief her and the ruling could now be delayed for weeks. IN REALITY, the plea deal did not "fell apart" nor "COLLAPSE," it IS DEFERRED. AKA, on hold pending the briefing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 37 minutes ago, robosmith said: Do you hear voices in your head? I don't. Of course you don't hear voices in my head. There aren't any for you to hear. I don't hear the voices in YOUR head - that's just you (learn how english works kiddo ) Quote Yes, REALLY. Nope - and your repeating a lie won't make it true Quote I get everything right and that is what annoys you into posting ^these glib EMPTY responses. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! THe fact you believe that's accurate is what makes reading your replies so entertaining It's like watching a yapping puppy who's CERTAIN he's right that "something" is in the broomcloset 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 9 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Of course you don't hear voices in my head. There aren't any for you to hear. I don't hear the voices in YOUR head - that's just you (learn how english works kiddo ) Nope - and your repeating a lie won't make it true ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! THe fact you believe that's accurate is what makes reading your replies so entertaining It's like watching a yapping puppy who's CERTAIN he's right that "something" is in the broomcloset Try again when you have something intelligent to post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 Just now, robosmith said: Try again when you have something intelligent to post. Awww muffin - you mad bro? I know how much it hurts you when people tell the truth. Take a nap, you'll be ok And as far as intelligent responses goes - you woudn't be able to tell, so what's the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 19 minutes ago, Contrarian said: I was just checking to see if you are paying attention, to see if you were worthy of that security clearance that you held. IN REALITY, the more this drags, Biden loses politically. POSSIBLY, but most Democrats and independents can tell the difference between Joe and his SON. AFAICT, the IRS agent testimony fell flat; too complex for most people to understand what they're saying. All we know is the prosecutors failed to find any connection between Hunter's tax problems and Joe. 19 minutes ago, Contrarian said: Then there is a surprise movement, coming up: Your party should have thought of a backup. Let us know when Manchin decides to run. Since he's in trouble getting re-elected to the Senate, he can probably be bought with an ambassador or cabinet appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Turns out the main problem with the plea agreement is that it puts further prosecution of Hunter in the hands of the court and the judge ruled she doesn't have the authority to provide complete immunity for OTHER UNKNOWN crimes. Also, the prosecutor Weiss said that HIS investigation is NOT OVER, which seems rather dishonest if it was not revealed as a condition of the plea agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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