Another brutal rapist serial killer eased out to medium security prison

blackbird · June 16, 2023

On 6/9/2023 at 8:46 PM, BeaverFever said:

My guess is that what Groot is attempting to react to is current news that Paul Bernardo was just moved to Medium security.

Its standard practice to move inmates to medium security after a few years of good behaviour if they don’t pose a security risk, it USUALLY has nothing to do with the horrendousness of their crime. Part of the reason is to make room for new inmates who need to be in max security. Most inmates move after 2 years but Bernardo was not moved until after 30 years AFAIK he was never considered a security risk or a problem inmate but was kept in max due to the exceptional publicity and horrific nature of his crimes

Another part of the reason for moving is rehabilitation, even for those who will never actually be released. Corrections Services Canada still has a mandate to try and reform and rehabilitate all inmates including those who will never see the outside of a prison complex.

A very strange post with soft-on-crime tones. These criminals escaped capital punishment which is what they should have had to begin with except our soft-on-crime governments abolished it. Now we have people thinking such murderers might still be rehabilitated. Appalling, but that is the way many follow Satan in this corrupt evil world. They reject God's revelation and think they know better about absolutely everything. Tragic.

CdnFox · June 16, 2023

8 hours ago, bcsapper said:

Yeah, that's the only reason I'm opposed to death penalty. I have no moral objection to killing someone who deserves to be killed. It's just that we seem to find it difficult sometimes to correctly ascertain who that person is.

Still, when there is no doubt, as is the case with both Pitchfork and Bernardo, I care far more about how the victim's families feel than I do about how they feel.

Well i'm with you - i could happily put a bullet in the brainpan of a badguy of this class and sleep like a baby that night. Hell i'd pay for the bullet myself

But - my problem is that you should never give your gov't the power of life and death over the citizens. We can never be 'sure'. Even in these cases there's a chance someone forced them to say or do something and we don't know. At least if they're alive and we find out later they were innocent we can do something.

Do we REALLY want the same people who screwed up our airports, customs and passports to be in charge of whether we live or die? I'd rather see imprisonment for life without chance of parole, but even that is "Too mean" for trudeau's judges apparently.

BeaverFever · June 16, 2023

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well i'm with you - i could happily put a bullet in the brainpan of a badguy of this class and sleep like a baby that night. Hell i'd pay for the bullet myself

But - my problem is that you should never give your gov't the power of life and death over the citizens. We can never be 'sure'. Even in these cases there's a chance someone forced them to say or do something and we don't know. At least if they're alive and we find out later they were innocent we can do something.

Do we REALLY want the same people who screwed up our airports, customs and passports to be in charge of whether we live or die? I'd rather see imprisonment for life without chance of parole, but even that is "Too mean" for trudeau's judges apparently.

Way too many outrageous death penalty cases south of the border to ever introduce it here The way Richard Glossip, a clearly innocent man, was railroaded to death row and despite bi-partisan efforts by lawmakers to exonerate him which so far haven’t worked. He’s facing execution for a murder that everyone including the people who want to execute him agree he didn’t commit, based solely on the testimony of the actual murderer who named him as a “conspirator” under police pressure in order to escape the death penalty and then later recanted his statement Its absolutely kafkaesque

The Oklahoma case pushing state Republicans to rethink the death penalty

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/how-richard-glossips-case-is-challenging-republicans-in-oklahoma-to-rethink-the-death-penalty

CdnFox · June 16, 2023

3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Way too many outrageous death penalty cases south of the border to ever introduce it here

Way too many stupid gov't moves and questionable decisions to ever introduce it here. we've already got gov't people recommending assisted suicide as an alterative to medical treatment for military people - do we want to actually give them the power to make that decision themselves?!?!?

I say we should be allowed to lock people up for life, no contact with the outside world other than your lawyer and no chance of parole and quietly wait out your life thank you. "Death by old age" if you will.

BeaverFever · June 16, 2023

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Way too many stupid gov't moves and questionable decisions to ever introduce it here. we've already got gov't people recommending assisted suicide as an alterative to medical treatment for military people - do we want to actually give them the power to make that decision themselves?!?!?

I say we should be allowed to lock people up for life, no contact with the outside world other than your lawyer and no chance of parole and quietly wait out your life thank you. "Death by old age" if you will.

Agreed. For a lot of them that’s worse than execution anyway.

CdnFox · June 16, 2023

Just now, BeaverFever said:

Agreed. For a lot of them that’s worse than execution anyway.

Yep - and they can be pointed to as a warning to others. It's more merciful than actually nailing them to the gates of the city but just as effective

OftenWrong · June 16, 2023

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yep - and they can be pointed to as a warning to others. It's more merciful than actually nailing them to the gates of the city but just as effective

Bring back the stockade?