Dougie93 Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, RedDog said: No question. My issue is the “management” and distribution of (extorted) wealth. In my dreams, Alberta is in line for a World Court case for nearly a trillion dollars in restitution. Canada could easily break up except for the dollar the central bank is the thing the provinces could not live without Quote
CdnFox Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Posted May 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Canada could easily break up except for the dollar the central bank is the thing the provinces could not live without It could break into east and west and be viable, each with their own currency. And that would solve a lot of problems. Probably couldn't go smaller than that. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, RedDog said: Canada or whatever still existed would be bankrupted in one legal action. most of the institutions are bankrupted already the Canadian Forces don't actually defend you Global Affairs Canada ? Totally useless, who cares ? you basically have the monarchy, allowing a Bank of Canada, to have a globally competitive currency otherwise, Confederation no longer serves any purpose, Ottawa is nothing but mischief making Quote
RedDog Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 There are people and indeed entire groups and organizations in Alberta who track daily what has been extorted from Alberta. It’s not going away. It will have to be accounted for. Obviously it’ll have to be returned. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RedDog said: It’s not going away. It will have to be accounted for. Obviously it’ll have to be returned. that's not going to happen because actually, HM King Charles III owns all the lands in Alberta so once again, the monarchy is the power in Canada it is the only binding force Canada has no legal basis at all without it to remove the monarchy would collapse the Confederation on the spot so the monarchy has got Canada by the balls Edited May 17, 2023 by Dougie93 Quote
CdnFox Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, RedDog said: There are people and indeed entire groups and organizations in Alberta who track daily what has been extorted from Alberta. It’s not going away. It will have to be accounted for. Obviously it’ll have to be returned. Hogwash. Those orgs prey on the uneducated and weak minded. Hell a lot of albertans still think that alberta "pays into" equalization and should just stop sending cheques. but at the end of the day while they can use that kind of nonsense for political power they know damn well alberta can't make it on it's own and why - and that it's not actually getting anywhere near as raw a deal as it thinks. It's true the three major western provinces all pay more money than they get back. But none of them could survive on their own and it's not as bad as it seems. If you want to throw some numbers out that you've heard i can comment on why they're accurate or not but i think you're going to find a lot more 'not' than 'are'. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Posted May 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: that's not going to happen because actually, HM King Charles III owns all the lands in Alberta so once again, the monarchy is the power in Canada You've really got to stop with that. King Charles doesn't have a single say in anything we do, and King Charles knows it. Harper said it pretty much to the queen's face. She didn't like it but didn't correct him. The monarchy is a symbol, not a practical reality and means nothing if we decide to do something. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, CdnFox said: You've really got to stop with that. I have to stop being a monarchist in Canada ? not according to the Constitution Act Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: King Charles doesn't have a single say in anything we do, and King Charles knows it. the monarch doesn't have to say anything Canada is incapable of being a republic trying to be a republic would blow Canada up on the spot Canada has no legal basis other than the monarchy attempts to make a new country in place of that, would fail spectacularly Quote
RedDog Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Hogwash. Those orgs prey on the uneducated and weak minded. Hell a lot of albertans still think that alberta "pays into" equalization and should just stop sending cheques. but at the end of the day while they can use that kind of nonsense for political power they know damn well alberta can't make it on it's own and why - and that it's not actually getting anywhere near as raw a deal as it thinks. It's true the three major western provinces all pay more money than they get back. But none of them could survive on their own and it's not as bad as it seems. If you want to throw some numbers out that you've heard i can comment on why they're accurate or not but i think you're going to find a lot more 'not' than 'are'. Alberta wouldn’t survive on its own? Seriously? Both Texas and California would be in the top ten of economic nations on earth independently. The fake Canada holds Alberta back. Quote
RedDog Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 Any production in OntariOWE or PAYbec is because of either pillage of Other provinces or proximity and partnership with the USA. Both are useless without the former. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Posted May 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I have to stop being a monarchist in Canada ? not according to the Constitution Act Well yes you do according to the stop-being-a-fuXing-!diot act. Which as you know is considered to be precedent. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the monarch doesn't have to say anything because we're not listening anyway. 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Canada is incapable of being a republic It is 100 percent capable of being a republic. It just shouldn't be. 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: trying to be a republic would blow Canada up on the spot it would not in the slighest. In fact most would have to be educated on the fact there was a change. 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Canada has no legal basis other than the monarchy Canada is a legal entity and can do what it likes entirely and the monarchy is of no moment. 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: attempts to make a new country in place of that, would fail spectacularly Possibly - we barely pulled it together the first time. But that's got nothing to do with the monarchy. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The monarchy is a symbol, not a practical reality and means nothing if we decide to do something. nowhere in the constitution does it say that the monarchy is "just a symbol" and patriation of the constitution only gave Canada independence from Westminster nowhere does it say that Canadians can make Canada into a republic at their whim in fact, it says the opposite of that, the Canada Act 1982 firmly retrenched the monarchy therein but moreover, Canadians are so deeply divided, they could never agree to the terms of new constitution Quote
CdnFox Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: nowhere in the constitution does it say that the monarchy is "just a symbol" Nobody cares. It is. 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: and patriation of the constitution only gave Canada independence from Westminster And still nobody cares. 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: nowhere does it say that Canadians can make Canada into a republic at their whim And yet we can. 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: in fact, it says the opposite of that, the Canada Act 1982 firmly retrenched the monarchy therein Which will mean nothing. 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: but moreover, Canadians are so deeply divided, they could never agree to the terms of new constitution That is probably true. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That is probably true. saved from having to live in a People's Republic of Socialist Canada God save the King ! Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 42 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Harper said it pretty much to the queen's face. She didn't like it but didn't correct him. The monarchy is a symbol, not a practical reality and means nothing if we decide to do something. Stephen Harper never said anything of the sort Stephen Harper is a stalwart monarchist in fact, if Michaelle Jean hadn't given him the answer he demanded he was going to go straight to Buckingham Palace to have the Queen overrule the Governor General Quote
CdnFox Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Posted May 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Stephen Harper never said anything of the sort Of course he did. And she wasn't thrilled. 19 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Stephen Harper is a stalwart monarchist Sure - but he knows very well she's a symbol only had has no power at all. Canada goes it's own way and while we may enjoy having the queen as a symbol we're not going to listen to her in the slightest. 19 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: in fact, if Michaelle Jean hadn't given him the answer he demanded he was going to go straight to Buckingham Palace to have the Queen overrule the Governor General Yeah - no. Not a thing. And the queen wouldn't. And harper would know that. Quote
eyeball Posted May 17, 2023 Report Posted May 17, 2023 22 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Many countries are facing the same problem in their major cities. Even Germany - which has taken a much more sceptical view of the property ‘boom’ than the Anglosphere - is seeing sharply rising rents in Berlin. Nimbyism is the biggest cause everywhere you go. People don't want the character of their neighbourhoods to change and very few politicians have the character it takes to lead these neighbourhoods to a more charitable sharing place. Nimbyism is the biggest elephant in the housing shortage room. It wanders back and forth between there and the anti-immigration room on a pretty regular basis. https://www.google.com/search?q=housing+shortage+and+nimbyism&rlz=1CAUBRP_enCA1054&oq=housing+shortage+and+nimbyism&aqs=chrome..69i57.24271j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&dlnr=1&sei=4VdlZJPZPICE0PEPlO-B0AU 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
impartialobserver Posted May 18, 2023 Report Posted May 18, 2023 21 hours ago, CdnFox said: this is one of the reasons i keep saying we should push remote working. If it became more prevelant to work remotely then more people would be able to work in areas where it's still afforedable and take the pressure off the major metros It is true that most of the remote work is done by those who live in the cities already or want to. However, San Francisco is a great test subject. During the pandemic, the private sector made work from home the norm in certain industries. What happened? Traffic, traffic accidents, and certain crimes (reckless driving, car theft) went down while taxable sales in the non-SF area (Fairfield, Vacaville, and Novato) went up. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 18, 2023 Author Report Posted May 18, 2023 57 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: It is true that most of the remote work is done by those who live in the cities already or want to. However, San Francisco is a great test subject. During the pandemic, the private sector made work from home the norm in certain industries. What happened? Traffic, traffic accidents, and certain crimes (reckless driving, car theft) went down while taxable sales in the non-SF area (Fairfield, Vacaville, and Novato) went up. Canada saw the same things as far as positives go. And - people moved to the suburbs. You have to remember - the VAST majority of our TINY population lives in small clusters. There's more people living in California than in Canada, so that gives you some idea of how much open land we have around the cities. Remote work allowed people to move out of the cities where there is a lack of housing to take advantage of some of the housing in the more rural and suburban areas. Which for a short time eased the problems in the cities with rent and housing prices. Quote
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