Swastika found 'carved into back' of Jewish student at Las Vegas high school - anti semetism on the rise

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

So you're not going to answer the question? BEYYYYYTA!

sorry - i missed the question - was it "why does antifa think jews are nazis?"

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I've always said Bill Clinton is a rapist. Though that didn't coming out until after he was president. If he was widely known as a rapist before that, he'd have to run as a Republican.

He was widely known to have been before that.  Democrats just ignore stuff like that when it suits them.

[Americana Antifa]

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

He was widely known to have been before that.  Democrats just ignore stuff like that when it suits them.

You sure? You lie a lot, so you might be lying again.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

This is really weird. You're saying that I'm wrong, but you agree with me on two of the three points. And the remaining point, you're saying you never heard of the black Hebrews, so you're not really challenging my point there. So what exactly am I wrong about?

The first sentence was just a general comment on your entire post. It wasn't specific to that paragraph. 

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Um... okay? Are you saying neo-nazism isn't real because you've never met a nazi?

I'm saying that someone who is as blatantly conservative as I am with such an avowed hatred of the PM and the LPOC would have been extended some type of invite from an extremist group by now if they're as common as you pretend they are. 

No one that I even know of has been courted by those types.

Yet here you are, an avowed domestic terrorist, courting adherents from the left side of the spectrum in the open on this forum.

I gotta admit, I don't think you're wasting your time. This site is rife with people credulous enough to be sucked in. 

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I don't see how it's an elephant in the room, considering people talk about this all the time. I already mentioned it in this thread. Yeah, fundamentalist Muslims hate Jews. They also hate gay people. But as I already said, fundamentalist Islam is not on the rise in the West,

FYI "just because you said something" doesn't make it a thing. It's more likely a rebuttal of that very thing. 

It's the proverbial "elephant in the room" because it's by far the most virulent and common form of anti-Semitism in NA and yet you just mentioned it as an also-ran at the end of your post. 

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it's also not promoted in MSM like nazi conspiracy theories are. 

I get it. You were instructed to "LIE, MAKE IT BIG, AND JUST REPEAT IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE IT" but FYI that only works on the credulous dolt horde known as "the leftards". 

Your stupid comment isn't making any headway with me no matter how many times you say it.

PROVIDE SOME PROOF OF THE FABLED NAZI CONSPIRACIES THAT ARE PEDDLED IN THE MSM.

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As for Muslims having hate rallies in Ottawa and the PM not condemning them, I'd have to see some evidence of that. But even if that was true, that's nothing compared to nazi theory in MSM, plus it doesn't mean fundamentalist Islam is growing.

Of course it happened. I said it happened and I tell the truth all the time. Not because I'm an amazing person or I'm a genius, I just don't have to lie because I'm not a domestic terrorist slithering around trying to disinform. 

I find it quite hilarious that you're asking me for a cite after you just blew past that in two consecutive posts, and I don't know why I'd bother to give you information because the truth has no meaning to you, but just because I'm a better person than you I'll provide you proof that I was, as usual, correct.

Here's some info about one of the quds hate rallies, but there were several. They're a yearly thing. 

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/levy-al-quds-hatefest-occupies-city-space-as-100-cops-look-on

https://thecjn.ca/news/canada/smaller-crowd-same-hate-at-al-quds-day-rally/

Trudeau has been asked directly in the HoC to speak against this type of hate speech and he directly refused.

Searches for Trudeau talking about quds day come up blank, they point to the Freedom convoy because Google is crap, but he has flatly refused to comment on any of the hate speech there. 

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Again, this is lazy identity politics on your part.

Criticizing Israel is not racist against Jews. Criticizing Russia is not racist against Russians. Criticizing North Korea is not racist against Koreans. 

It's proof of Dem politicians and their support of ant-Semitism. 

Louis Farrakhan isn't "a guy who complains about Israel", he's a bigot, through and through. An anti-Semite. Ilhan Omar is an anti-Semite. Those people are Dems.

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It funny, conservatives complain about identity politics, but y'all do it even more than liberals.

A straight-up comp would be something like "Conservatives said that all blacks are guilty of rape and basically no other ethnic group ever does that sort of thing". Right?

Because the narrative coming from the left is that "white people owned black slaves for centuries and blacks are still completely under the thumb of systemic racism. Slave ownership and systemic racism are unique to white people, mainly Americans". Even in Canada we're exposed to that BS and we never owned any slaves here. 

That's your identity politics. 

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As for Obama, he was totally wrong for associating with Farrakhan in any way. However, Obama has condemned Farrakhan several times. And they weren't actually friends, they just took a picture together. Not defending Obama, he was wrong for doing that, but he never promoted Farrakhan's ideas.

The photo was from a private moment, and his expression is plain to see.  

I believe what people do more than I believe what they say.

I proved that you literally have no clue about the difference between racism and religious bigotry. You think that when muslims discriminate against Jews it's "racism" and that's patently stupid. 

It's right there in the previous post. Read it and weep. Just learn from it and move on.

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Which leftist politicians have made any of that part of their platform?

I guess you have no idea what's going on in San Francisco lol. 

This is an extreme example of something that's happening at a lower level all over the US. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64965277

FYI California wasn't a slave state, yet somehow people who may be descended from slaves in other areas are supposed to get reparations from people in San Fran who never owned slaves. "Your DNA is proof of your guilt!"

It seems retarded on its face, because it is deeply retarded, but that means that leftists will gobble it up.

You have to admit that now that you've seen this, you think it's awesome. Your leftist brain has no choice but to believe something so inherently divisive and foolish. 

And for the 4th time now? Fifth??? 

PROVIDE SOME PROOF OF THE FABLED NAZI CONSPIRACIES THAT ARE PEDDLED IN THE MSM.

Edited April 25, 2023 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

Anti-Semitism is on the rise.  

Leftists:

 

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

The first sentence was just a general comment on your entire post. It wasn't specific to that paragraph. 

Still bad, considering I was correct on everything.

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm saying that someone who is as blatantly conservative as I am with such an avowed hatred of the PM and the LPOC would have been extended some type of invite from an extremist group by now if they're as common as you pretend they are. 

Most nazis today don't actually call themselves "nazis" since it's become such a politically toxic term. Nick Fuentes is probably the most high profile nazi in America, but of course he never calls himself a nazi, he just claims he's "America First."

Secondly, the vast majority of conservatives are fascists, not nazis. However, the cultural marxism conspiracy has pretty much become doctrine on the Right. So even though most conservatives aren't nazis, almost all of them are still promoting a nazi theory. When Jordan Peterson talks about cultural marxism, he never says the Jews are behind it, and I believe he honestly doesn't think they are. However, he's leading other people to believe in the theory, which is only one step away from actual nazism. Peterson was shocked to learn so many of his fans are nazis, but it's not surprising considering the rabbit holes he's leading people into.

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Yet here you are, an avowed domestic terrorist

I know you're right-wing, but try to stop lying.

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It's the proverbial "elephant in the room" because it's by far the most virulent and common form of anti-Semitism in NA and yet you just mentioned it as an also-ran at the end of your post. 

Then you're using the phrase the wrong way. An "elephant in the room" is a huge thing that nobody is talking about, usually out of fear. Like I said, people talk about how fundamentalist Muslims hate Jews all the time. It's not like it's taboo to acknowledge.

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PROVIDE SOME PROOF OF THE FABLED NAZI CONSPIRACIES THAT ARE PEDDLED IN THE MSM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory#Entering_the_mainstream

 

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Here's some info about one of the quds hate rallies, but there were several. They're a yearly thing. 

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/levy-al-quds-hatefest-occupies-city-space-as-100-cops-look-on

https://thecjn.ca/news/canada/smaller-crowd-same-hate-at-al-quds-day-rally/

Trudeau has been asked directly in the HoC to speak against this type of hate speech and he directly refused.

 

Oh yeah, I know about this. Trudeau should condemn the racism, but it's not that big a deal considering how few people actually show up. According to your link, there were around 500 people marching in 2019. So we're talking about a pretty tiny minority.

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It's proof of Dem politicians and their support of ant-Semitism. 

Trudeau isn't part of the Democratic Party. And saying he supports anti-semitism because he doesn't condemn a march this small is just a reach. He also hasn't condemned the black Hebrews, does that mean he's secretly a black supremacist?

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Louis Farrakhan isn't "a guy who complains about Israel", he's a bigot, through and through. An anti-Semite. Ilhan Omar is an anti-Semite. Those people are Dems.

Again, I know you're right-wing, but try to stop lying. I said that Obama was wrong for taking a picture with Farrakhan.

However, you're being ridiculous when you say that Omar is anti-semitic for criticizing the Israeli government. That's just lazy identity politics.

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Because the narrative coming from the left is that "white people owned black slaves for centuries and blacks are still completely under the thumb of systemic racism. Slave ownership and systemic racism are unique to white people, mainly Americans". Even in Canada we're exposed to that BS and we never owned any slaves here. 

That's your identity politics. 

 

Are you insane? When have I ever said anything like that?

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I proved that you literally have no clue about the difference between racism and religious bigotry. You think that when muslims discriminate against Jews it's "racism" and that's patently stupid. 

Semantics. Another lazy strategy.

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I guess you have no idea what's going on in San Francisco lol. 

This is an extreme example of something that's happening at a lower level all over the US. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64965277

FYI California wasn't a slave state, yet somehow people who may be descended from slaves in other areas are supposed to get reparations from people in San Fran who never owned slaves. "Your DNA is proof of your guilt!"

 

I'm seriously starting to think you're actually just insane.

Where does it say "your DNA is proof of your guilt" in this article?

No, they're not getting the money from people who never owned slaves, that's a retarded child's way of understanding how taxation works.

California wasn't considered a "slave state" when they became part of America, but they actually did have slavery until around 1850. And there were other forms of racism after that, like segregation.

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It seems retarded on its face, because it is deeply retarded, but that means that leftists will gbble it up.

Or, and hear me out here, your propaganda is wrong. Just because the Republicans suck up to theocratic Muslim dictators, doesn't mean the rest of us like theocratic Islam. Leftists have been the only ones to consistently condemn both Republicans and Democrats for their alliance with Saudi Arabia.

[Americana Antifa]

46 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Anti-Semitism is on the rise.  

Leftists:

 

Do you really think Obama is a leftist or do you just not know the difference between leftists and liberals?

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

You sure? You lie a lot, so you might be lying again.

I'm sure.  SOOO many women were raped or assaulted by him even before his presidency that it should be no surprise that it was 'known'. Just like Harvey Weinstein where everybody knew not to be in a room alone with him. But also like Weinstein, he was powerful and charismatic and the democrats didn't what to lose a good candidate so - under the rug it went till all of a sudden it couldn't be held back anymore and poof. I think the number of women that have actually come forward are well past a dozen now? And that's just the ones who come forward.  

And I never lie.  That's why we have you.  Based on your reactions i think that's what you hate about me the most. So when i say things like you've called jews nazi's several times, its the honest truth no matter how much you like to deny it.

[Nationalist]

On 4/22/2023 at 8:44 PM, Aristides said:

This tendency to use the NAZI label is rooted in ignorance of what NAZI's really were.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

Incase you forgot.

I find this story disturbing. Carving things in anyone's back, let alone a handicapped person, is disgusting. What to do about it? Take off the Gawd Damn kid gloves and toss these people in jail to be raped and to rot. Keep doing this until the slime who engage in this sort of grotesque behaviour, get the message.

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Still bad, considering I was correct on everything.

I don't have time for the entirety of your screed today, so just a few things:

1) FYI racism falls under the broader category of bigotry. If you're being a racist then you're also being a bigot by definition, but you can be a bigot without being even the slightest bit racist. That being said, the people who discriminate against Jews are almost never being racist. The Israelis and Palestinians have such similar DNA that they're indistinguishable from one another. If you're walking around in NY you can't spot most of the Jews just by looking at them: the women don't wear specific items and not all of the men wear caps. The people who find out that they're Jews and commit hate crimes against them are usually indistinguishable racially without a DNA test. IE, those attacks are absolutely not racist at all. It's bizarre that you don't know the difference between racism and religious bigotry and yet you feel like you're an expert on this topic. You're not even on square one yet ffs. 

After you wrap your head around that, think about what it says about your own intelligence, and whether or not you should be pontificating to other adults. And then maybe, just maybe, think about the quality of your decision making before you loot and burn another store in solidarity with other M Brown enthusiasts.

2) In this society, a black girl can choose to become a muslim and get free schooling until grade 12, and if she's smart enough, and works hard enough, she will get scholarships and a mostly free university education as well. Then she can get a good job and boss white men around.

All in a society created and ruled by white men. So how bad are we again?

Can that girl go and do that in the ME? (Ok, Israel, but definitely not in almost every country in that region)

I get it. You don't like white men and you don't like NA, so why don't you go to somewhere that's already perfect? Venezuela is one of the most oil-rich nations on earth and it's a completely socialist paradise. Why not go there?

Saudi Arabia has vast wealth and no cisgender white devils have any say at all in how that country is run. Why not go there and experience the beautiful life that awaits you? Surely you can still find things to throw molotov cocktails at once in a while, and the Saudi will definitely understand because they want the same beautiful, free society that you do, where everyone has the same outcome regardless of who their family is, how much they contribute, or what their race/religion is.

Or go one up... China is a communist country. Communism is a beautiful concept, where everyone works together and everyone shares all the wealth. Go to China dear one, and you'll never have to worry about how anyone else in your country is being treated.  

3) In all of your arguments you have to mischaracterize the comments/opinions/actions of people like Ilhan Omar, Justin Trudeau, San Franciscans, Democrat anti-Semites, etc, to make your points. Why do that? You're just titling at windmills in support of your irrational desire to burn and loot the businesses of people who spent their lifetimes working hard to support their families and achieve their lifelong goals.

People spend their lives contributing to society and building their communities, and people like you who don't contribute in any meaningful way come along and hate on it and burn it. 

FYI it's not actually fascist to oppose the forced vaccinations of young healthy people who don't even need a vaccine in the first place. Especially when said "vaccine" has already been PROVEN to not prevent the infection from/spread of the disease that it's supposed to fight. 

Conservatives are not fascists at all. Conservatives are small-government types who believe in hard work, contribution, and a reasonable social safety net. 

Whoever that Fuentes guy is, I've never heard of him, but if you feel like he's a fascist then my guess is that he's a highly intelligent, hard-working person who puts his own country and his fellow citizens first. Before you start talking about who gets to decide whether or not they waltz across the border, just remember that tens of millions of Americans have worked 50+ hr weeks for centuries to put that country where it is. It's not the average. 

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Do you really think Obama is a leftist or do you just not know the difference between leftists and liberals?

It's odd that you care about semantics more than Obama's support of bigotry. 

Liberal/leftist, cancer/malignant tumour, they're the same. 

[Americana Antifa]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And I never lie.  That's why we have you.  Based on your reactions i think that's what you hate about me the most. So when i say things like you've called jews nazi's several times, its the honest truth no matter how much you like to deny it.

See, like that. You're lying again. So you're probably lying about Clinton being a known rapist before he was president.

[Americana Antifa]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's odd that you care about semantics more than Obama's support of bigotry. 

Liberal/leftist, cancer/malignant tumour, they're the same. 

Yes. Capitalism and anti-capitalism are definitely the same thing. ?

[CdnFox]

48 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

See, like that. You're lying again. So you're probably lying about Clinton being a known rapist before he was president.

LOL - sure kid. Everyone here knows who the liar in this conversation is Try not to kill any jews today. 

[Americana Antifa]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI racism falls under the broader category of bigotry. If you're being a racist then you're also being a bigot by definition, but you can be a bigot without being even the slightest bit racist. That being said, the people who discriminate against Jews are almost never being racist. The Israelis and Palestinians have such similar DNA that they're indistinguishable from one another. If you're walking around in NY you can't spot most of the Jews just by looking at them: the women don't wear specific items and not all of the men wear caps. The people who find out that they're Jews and commit hate crimes against them are usually indistinguishable racially without a DNA test. IE, those attacks are absolutely not racist at all. It's bizarre that you don't know the difference between racism and religious bigotry and yet you feel like you're an expert on this topic. You're not even on square one yet ffs. 

Racism isn't actually about genetics, it's about perceived differences based on ancestry. Most genocides throughout history have been between people that are actually genetically similar, such as the Hutus and the Tutsis, the Germans and the Polish, the Russians and the Ukrainians, and so on. Even when genetics are cited, like with the holocaust, it's usually nonsense. Ashkenazi Jews are pretty European in their DNA.

I agree that people can be oppressed based on their religion, but fundamentalist Islam usually targets Jews even if they don't practice Judaism. They see Jews as a people to be the enemy.

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

In this society, a black girl can choose to become a muslim and get free schooling until grade 12, and if she's smart enough, and works hard enough, she will get scholarships and a mostly free university education as well. Then she can get a good job and boss white men around.

All in a society created and ruled by white men. So how bad are we again?

I legit have no idea what you're going on about. Did you imagine I said something bad about white men?

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Saudi Arabia has vast wealth and no cisgender white devils have any say at all in how that country is run. Why not go there and experience the beautiful life that awaits you? Surely you can still find things to throw molotov cocktails at once in a while, and the Saudi will definitely understand because they want the same beautiful, free society that you do, where everyone has the same outcome regardless of who their family is, how much they contribute, or what their race/religion is.

My friend, my buddy, my guy. Saudi Arabia is the kind of country that YOU want. It's a super conservative dictatorship.

America and Canada aren't perfect, but they're way closer to my politics than yours. The only reason you don't like Saudi Arabia is because the Saudis are Muslim. But swap Islam for Protestantism or Catholicism and it's basically everything you want. Same with China. China uses left-wing imagery, but it's really a conservative far-right country.

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

In all of your arguments you have to mischaracterize the comments/opinions/actions of people like Ilhan Omar, Justin Trudeau, San Franciscans, Democrat anti-Semites, etc, to make your points. 

Your definition of "democrat anti-semites" is anyone who criticizes the Israeli government, which is moronic. By your own logic, you're racist against the Chinese for criticizing China's government.

 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Conservatives are not fascists at all. Conservatives are small-government types who believe in hard work, contribution, and a reasonable social safety net. 

And yet they keep supporting politicians and policies that are fascist. And it's been like that since conservatism was founded as a reaction to France becoming a democracy. Funny how that works out.

If conservatives were truly about freedom, they would consider Biden to be the lesser evil to another Trump term. Trump literally tried to end our democracy. But no, if Trump runs again, the vast majority of the Right will vote for fascism.

Seriously, at this point, saying conservatives aren't fascist is just pathetic cope. CPAC legit invited the dictator of Hungary to speak. Trump keeps saying America should have "quick trials" like in China. Republicans are enacting voter-restriction laws anywhere they can. How much more obvious do they have to make it?

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Whoever that Fuentes guy is, I've never heard of him, but if you feel like he's a fascist then my guess is that he's a highly intelligent, hard-working person who puts his own country and his fellow citizens first. 

Oh, I'm sure you would think that about Fuentes. ?

 

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Racism isn't actually about genetics,

In Spanish they have a word for that type of comment: el faceplant.

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I agree that people can be oppressed based on their religion, but fundamentalist Islam usually targets Jews even if they don't practice Judaism. They see Jews as a people to be the enemy.

It's still religious bigotry. It's based on religion. 

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I legit have no idea what you're going on about. Did you imagine I said something bad about white men?

It's part of the leftist screed. It's even the central theme of CRT. "White people were/kinda are slavers, no one else ever was, white men get their jobs because of the gender and skin colour and it's important for companies like Google to openly discriminate against them now, etc." 

You can't possibly be as hard-core left as you are without being at least somewhat of a hater.

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My friend, my buddy, my guy. Saudi Arabia is the kind of country that YOU want. It's a super conservative dictatorship.

Fascism isn't defined as "something that you personally dislike".

Fascism is the wide variety of things that Hitler did to centralize power, and to divide his people along arbitrary lines, and discriminate based upon that dividing line. It included falsely singling a group out as "unclean/diseased", using a gesundheitspass to strip away their rights, and then conducting hate speech against them. Then taking things from them, like their jobs. Asserting control over the media. Strictly controlling what information people had access to. 

Fascism is the wide variety of things that Trudeau did to centralize power, and to divide his people along arbitrary lines, and discriminate based upon that dividing line.  It included falsely singling a group out as "unclean/diseased", using a gesundheitspass to strip away their rights, and then conducting hate speech against them. Then taking things from them, like their jobs. Asserting control over the media. Strictly controlling what information people had access to on social media with bans, shadow bans and censorship. They strictly controlled the info that Health Canada put out there. Trudeau had the RCMP rough up Rebel News journalists when they got within camera range of him. 

You can't point to any fascism from conservative politicians. You can only point to things that you don't like.

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America and Canada aren't perfect, but they're way closer to my politics than yours.

They're way more fascist than my politics, that's for certain. 

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The only reason you don't like Saudi Arabia is because the Saudis are Muslim. But swap Islam for Protestantism or Catholicism and it's basically everything you want. Same with China. China uses left-wing imagery, but it's really a conservative far-right country.

You're a vile human being. Just vile. 

FYI Saudis are hateful and divisive, and they openly discriminate against people that they don't like, exactly like Trudeau and Biden.

If you're not a muslim there are areas of SA that you can't drive in. If you're not vaxed there are areas of Canada and the US that you couldn't go in. 

Dude, Im an atheist, and if I lived in SA I wouldn't have that right. In islam the penalty for apostasy is death. Criticizing mohammed = death. FYI cancelling people for their non-violent political views is a leftist phenomenon. Leftists are vile, like the Saudis. 

China's covid protocols were a bit stricter than ours, but our country was rotten. China uses left-wing imagery to con the most credulous people in the country into believing that their gov't is "for the people" but what is their gov't really for? 

China is a far-left, communist country. 

Socialism, communism, etc are all rallying cries by people who want absolute power. Leftists in NA are there now. Trudeau and Biden are right there. They want absolute control of the media and social media. 

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AOC calls for Fox News and Tucker Carlson to be punished for inciting violence on January 6

Dems incited violence for years. Fox and Tucker in particular never incited any violence. 

Kamala incited violence. Michelle Obama incited violence. 

Leftists in NA are stupid people, and you're one of the furthest left. You're actually proud to be part of a terrorist org. You are vile. 

 

[Americana Antifa]

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

In Spanish they have a word for that type of comment: el faceplant.

My buddy, my guy, my friend. How many cases of racism can you name that were about genetics? By your logic, the holocaust wasn't about racism because Slavs and Ashkenazi Jews are genetically similar to Germans. Racism is about perceived differences. Even things like American slavery were based on skin color, not genetics. Americans didn't do DNA tests on black people to make sure they were genetically different enough to be enslaved, they just decided that skin color was enough to make them a different race.

The natives of Africa are more genetically different to the natives of Australia than they are to the natives of any other continent. But because both groups are dark-skinned, they'd just be considered part of the "black race" in America.

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It's still religious bigotry. It's based on religion. 

Not really. A lot of Muslims see all Jews as agents of Israel. The hatred is based on things like territorial disputes, but is then justified and reinforced with Islam. Much like during many of the European wars, Catholicism and Protestantism were both used to justify war crimes against the enemy. 

And even with the hatred being partly religiously motivated, the hatred is against ethnic Jews as people. So it's still racism.

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It's part of the leftist screed. It's even the central theme of CRT. "White people were/kinda are slavers, no one else ever was, white men get their jobs because of the gender and skin colour and it's important for companies like Google to openly discriminate against them now, etc." 

You can't possibly be as hard-core left as you are without being at least somewhat of a hater.

So look, I'm going to break some news to you, which I suspect you already know. Right-wing media is lying to you.

Try to do some actual reading about things like CRT. You'll find that it actually says races are arbitrary. White people as a people can't be slavers because there are no "white people." There are only individuals that the bourgeoisie groups into races to divide and conquer the workers. That's not to say I agree with everything about CRT, plenty of good sociologists still get things wrong. But this cartoonish myth that CRT says all white people are racist, all black people are victims, that's just a lie.

Also, try to watch some actual leftist media. Step out of your safe space, you might like it.

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Fascism is the wide variety of things that Hitler did to centralize power, and to divide his people along arbitrary lines, and discriminate based upon that dividing line. It included falsely singling a group out as "unclean/diseased", using a gesundheitspass to strip away their rights, and then conducting hate speech against them. Then taking things from them, like their jobs. Asserting control over the media. Strictly controlling what information people had access to. 

So basically, much of what you want to do. The LGBT people are unclean, the "woke" books have to be banned, and media should be controlled by the state. Pretty much what Ron DeSantis is doing in Florida, what Viktor Orbán is doing in Hungary, and what Giorgia Meloni wants to do in Italy.

What separates fascism from other forms of authoritarianism is that fascism is reactionary authoritarianism. Fascists justify their policies by claiming that the family is under attack, masculinity is under attack, the local religion is under attacks, it's all about how "traditional values" are being destroyed and we must fight back in this spiritual struggle between good and evil. That's why the "enemies" are usually sexual, gender-based, or religious minorities.

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You can't point to any fascism from conservative politicians. You can only point to things that you don't like.

The insane transphobia mixed with the book bans is an example of fascism. We need to have mass government censorship because trans people are a threat to tradition, the family, and our children. Textbook fascism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_für_Sexualwissenschaft

 

 

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI Saudis are hateful and divisive, and they openly discriminate against people that they don't like, exactly like Trudeau and Biden.

Yes, I know you're racist, you don't need to remind us.

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

If you're not a muslim there are areas of SA that you can't drive in. If you're not vaxed there are areas of Canada and the US that you couldn't go in. 

Yes. That's definitely the same thing. Women not being allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia is the same as having temporary restrictions for everyone during a global pandemic.

Just admit you're a fascist. We can debate fascism vs democracy, you might make some good points.

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Dude, Im an atheist, and if I lived in SA I wouldn't have that right. In islam the penalty for apostasy is death. Criticizing mohammed = death. FYI cancelling people for their non-violent political views is a leftist phenomenon. Leftists are vile, like the Saudis. 

Yes. Another solid point. The government putting someone to death for blasphemy is absolutely the same as people choosing to boycott a celebrity they don't like.

Seriously, admit you're a fascist, it will feel good.

[BeaverFever]

On 4/22/2023 at 7:33 PM, CdnFox said:

Christians are the next targeted group

Actually in the US its Muslims. Catholics and “other Christian” are 4 and 5 respectively. I believe in Canada Catholic is #2 and Islam is 3

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

By your logic, the holocaust wasn't about racism because Slavs and Ashkenazi Jews are genetically similar to Germans.

THe holocaust WASNT' about racism you dimwit. Not only are there the ethnic groups you mentioned but also black jews and other ethnicities who were jewish.

Germans were racist AS WELL, but the holocaust wasn't racial, it was ethnic. Duh.  They were after JEWS, not just a race

[CdnFox]

48 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Actually in the US its Muslims. Catholics and “other Christian” are 4 and 5 respectively. I believe in Canada Catholic is #2 and Islam is 3

Possibly true      i haven't looked up the states and only know the canadian ones. I can't see anything in a quick google search,

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

My buddy, my guy, my friend. How many cases of racism can you name that were about genetics? By your logic, the holocaust wasn't about racism because Slavs and Ashkenazi Jews are genetically similar to Germans. Racism is about perceived differences. Even things like American slavery were based on skin color, not genetics. Americans didn't do DNA tests on black people to make sure they were genetically different enough to be enslaved, they just decided that skin color was enough to make them a different race.

Racism is racism. Religious bigotry is religious bigotry.

White people will get beat up if they go into a lot of black churches in the US, Barack Obama's church in Chicago is probably one of them. Guess what form of bigotry that is...

White people who proclaim themselves to be Christians have done unspeakable things to black people who probably were devout Christians. They cheered for the same sports teams, their kids were taking the same classes in school. Guess what form of bigotry that is...

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The natives of Africa are more genetically different to the natives of Australia than they are to the natives of any other continent. But because both groups are dark-skinned, they'd just be considered part of the "black race" in America.

It's actually leftists who are fixated on race. 

If you ever find it in your heart to get past that, you'll probably start identifying as a conservative. 

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Not really. A lot of Muslims see all Jews as agents of Israel. The hatred is based on things like territorial disputes, but is then justified and reinforced with Islam. Much like during many of the European wars, Catholicism and Protestantism were both used to justify war crimes against the enemy. 

OMG, you don't even have a genera understanding of the basics right in your own country in your own day and age. Don't try to talk about history. 

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And even with the hatred being partly religiously motivated, the hatred is against ethnic Jews as people. So it's still racism.

It's not "partly" religiously motivated. It's a pure, seething hatred of the Jewish religion that you don't understand.

They are raised on scriptures (Hadiths) with sayings like "The Last Hour will not come until the Muslims fight against the Jews and the Muslims kill them to the extent that the Jews will hide behind a rock or a tree and the rock or the tree will say: O' Muslim, the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him."

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So look, I'm going to break some news to you, which I suspect you already know. Right-wing media is lying to you.

You're the last person on earth to talk about media lies lol. 

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Try to do some actual reading about things like CRT. You'll find that it actually says races are arbitrary. White people as a people can't be slavers because there are no "white people." There are only individuals that the bourgeoisie groups into races to divide and conquer the workers. That's not to say I agree with everything about CRT, plenty of good sociologists still get things wrong. But this cartoonish myth that CRT says all white people are racist, all black people are victims, that's just a lie.

Races aren't arbitrary. Humans can see them plain as day. It's what's inside of people that's the same. 

You have to ignore all the things that leftists say to divide people. They stir up hatred from the past and they lie about current events to incite violence. The M Brown story is a perfect example.

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Also, try to watch some actual leftist media. Step out of your safe space, you might like it.

Here's the difference between me and you:

Your hatred of Fox News came from you listening to CNN. 

My hatred of CNN came from watching CNN. 

FYI CNN was always my go-to for stories from the US. Why watch CTV and CBC talk about American stories instead of watching Americans talk about American stories, right? 

I tuned in to watch CNN after the first plane hit the first of the Twin Towers. I saw the second plane hit the second tower on CNN. 

That was in 2001. More than a decade later I was still watching CNN for my American news fix. Up 'til 2014, that is.

You see, when I was driving in my car and I heard that "a cop rolled down his window and just shot an unarmed black kid from inside of his car, in front of hundreds of witnesses" (yes, hundreds is what they said on the radio station I was listening to) I went straight home to watch CNN. If hundreds of people witnessed it then for sure some video would be coming out soon, right? 

Nope. No video.

I just kept hearing about the gentle giant over and over and over and over again. Plus a bit of the racist history of police in the US in general and in that region in particular.

There was no mention that the majority of police in Ferguson were black, and CNN clearly had no video. None. I watched for about 90 minutes and literally every word I heard seemed to solidify the case for righteous anger. Lots and lots of righteous anger that was pent up for generations, apparently. 

I still wanted to see video, so I went to the guide to see what other American news channels I had. There are things like CPAC(?) and other things that I didn't know what they really were, plus Fox News, which I knew for certain was an American news channel. 

I was well aware of how awful Fox News was from hearing about it through the years, I honestly felt like it was kind of racist just to turn it on, but I wanted to see video, right? 

Sure enough, after about 20 minutes they showed a video of a big black guy violently robbing a store minutes before the shooting and they said that it was M Brown. "Oh really?" says I. I wouldn't know M Brown from Julius Irving's kid. It could be anyone in that video, and seeing as it was Fox I was conditioned to believe that would be a bogus video. So back to CNN I go to await confirmation... and what do I see? More gentle giant, more about racist police, and finally they mention that "out of respect for the deceased, we're not going to show a video that's being shown on other channels."

Ok, so CNN's going to give us their narrative over and over but they refuse to show us video of what this "gentle giant" was actually doing in the minutes before there was this "drive by" shooting by the world's most racist police force. And he wasn't "gentle gianting". 

I immediately and correctly ceased to consider CNN a news source on that day. 

You will never learn. They've conditioned you to be a domestic terrorist. 

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So basically, much of what you want to do. The LGBT people are unclean, the "woke" books have to be banned, and

No one said that LGBTQ are unclean. That's your straw man argument. 

Woke books and straight books that depict overt sexuality don't belong in elementary schools. 

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media should be controlled by the state. 

That's the most Trudeau/Biden thing that you've ever said. 

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What separates fascism from other forms of authoritarianism is that fascism is reactionary authoritarianism. Fascists justify their policies by claiming that the family is under attack,

1) you completely dodged all of the direct, accurate comparisons between Trudeau and Hitler, including Trudeau's vicious hate speech against the unjabbed. 

2) Do you not see all of the hate speech against police, white men, straight men, etc?

White men built the most free, inclusive society in the whole history of the world right here and the alt-left media basically says "white devils".

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Yes, I know you're racist, you don't need to remind us.

Like I've said many times, you're vile. 

Your only way to 'score points' is to make unsubstantiated accusations. 

Even if your username wasn't an admission that you're a domestic terrorist I would have figured it our by now. You're a brainwashed hater.

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Yes. That's definitely the same thing. Women not being allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia is the same as having temporary restrictions for everyone during a global pandemic.

Uhhhh, yeah, that's the only really misogynistic thing in SA is that women aren't allowed to drive lol. 

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 The government putting someone to death for blasphemy is absolutely the same as people choosing to boycott a celebrity they don't like.

Just a paragraph ago you were trying to insinuate that the Saudis' main fault was that they were preventing women from driving. Now you're acknowledging that there's this about death for blasphemy...? So, is killing people for blaspheming a lesser crime than misogyny in your eyes? 

They're not "boycotting celebrities", they're boycotting products to force those companies to cancel who/what they want cancelled.  

Edited April 27, 2023 by WestCanMan

[Americana Antifa]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Actually in the US its Muslims. Catholics and “other Christian” are 4 and 5 respectively. I believe in Canada Catholic is #2 and Islam is 3

Some fascists in American politics are already doing anti-catholic dog whistles. Plus, the specific form of fascism in the GOP is Evangelic Nationalism. So while the Republicans need Catholic voters right now, if they succeed in ending democracy, it will only be a matter of time.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Some fascists in American politics are already doing anti-catholic dog whistles. Plus, the specific form of fascism in the GOP is Evangelic Nationalism. So while the Republicans need Catholic voters right now, if they succeed in ending democracy, it will only be a matter of time.

THat's absolutely untrue. I mean - i haven't actually looked into it or anything but you're so consistently wrong every single time you speak that i feel comfortable making that assumption just based on your track record.

[WestCanMan]

23 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

So while the Republicans need Catholic voters right now, if they succeed in ending democracy, it will only be a matter of time.

This is just another example of how unaware you are of what's going on right in front of your eyes.

1) The Dems/Hillary cheated no less than 3 times on the 2016 election. 100% busted, zeeero doubt about it. They absolutely, definitely, certainly cheated and CNN was a part of the cheating: it was their gal, Donna Brazille, who gave Hillary the debate questions.

2) Hillary, the MSM and the FBI spent 3 years lying about the validity of the 2016 election. Their attacks on the legitimate POTUS were wholly founded in Hillary's lies and FBI crimes. Yes, FBI crimes. The FBI actually committed crimes to keep the slander-fest going. 

3) The Dems spent all of 2016-2020 working on voter-fraud-friendly legislation such as no-ID voting, mass-mailing unsolicited ballots, not requiring any form of signature matching, etc. 

4) As soon as the Dems won the 2020 election, questioning the integrity of an election suddenly became a federal offence. It's literally not safe for anyone to question that election. The knves are out, bigtime. People have been in jail for over two years without a trial for.... for.... who knows? They haven't even been charged yet.

 

How fascist is all that? How much does it look like the Dem cheating will eventually get them in, and making it illegal to question election results will keep them in. They have the FBI/KGB in their pocket. 

Edited April 27, 2023 by WestCanMan

[BeaverFever]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

THe holocaust WASNT' about racism you dimwit. Not only are there the ethnic groups you mentioned but also black jews and other ethnicities who were jewish.

Germans were racist AS WELL, but the holocaust wasn't racial, it was ethnic. Duh.  They were after JEWS, not just a race

The general term “racism” also includes ethnic groups its not just about genetic races.
 

Scientifically speaking “race” doesn’t even exist, it’s a made up concept. Every individual human being is genetically unique and all humans are related and share the vast majority of their DNA. On top of that, humans and proto-humans have been intermixing and interbreeding for millennia, making the whole concept of unique pipelines of pure racial DNA even more implausible. When Europeans invented the concept of “race” it was only in recent centuries as a means of grouping and ranking the various people of the world by ethnicity and superficial features like skin colour. Of course many (not all) ancient and tribal peoples throughout time had various concepts of their own superiority to others but it was more nuanced than any ideas about “races” that we have today. It was more about believing in the superiority of their culture rather than their biology, so they thought of themselves more in terms of being a tribe or a nation as opposed to being a race. For example they might have thought they were the chosen people of some god as a reward for some great feat their ancestor performed, or that their farming lifestyle was superior to that of nomadic barbarians. Maybe we can call that proto-racism  or something but it was notably different than what we see today.