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Arguably, this isn't a totally CANADIAN issue, but I couldn't think of any other folder to put it in.

"Honestly, I don't understand all the conservative frustration over Derek Mulvaney being the spokesperson for Bud Lite.

It's a man identifying as a woman being a spokesperson for water identifying as beer.

Kinda makes sense."

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Posted

Well it's an old canadian joke at the best of times - "What's the similarity between american beer and having sex in a canoe? They're both F****ing pretty close to water :)

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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On 4/14/2023 at 12:28 PM, impartialobserver said:

However, Bud Light is going to continue on. Why? Lower price, consistent product, and ubiquitous access in the US. Also, beer sales go up in the summer when folks want something refreshing and relatively low ABV. 

I doubt it'll go out of  business.  This was one incident and as i've said i think the blowback is more about people being sick of identity politics being shoved in thier face daily.

But they will probably have diminished sales for quite a while. People will switch to coors now in protest but chances are once they do for a while they'll stick with it out of habit. Not all, but many. 

Eventually bud will recover but this is going to cost them many many many billions in sales. And you can bet they'll be avoiding donating to any of the lettered people causes.

It's kind of a shame that this happened.  I mean really - they sent a trans person a beer at the end of the day.  It's not like the sponsored 'homo-the-clown" to dance naked at children's parties or the like. The reaction is way out of proportion because bud is wearing the anger over people being harassed about trans stuff day and night.

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Posted
On 4/26/2023 at 6:34 AM, CdnFox said:

I doubt it'll go out of  business.  This was one incident and as i've said i think the blowback is more about people being sick of identity politics being shoved in thier face daily.

But they will probably have diminished sales for quite a while. People will switch to coors now in protest but chances are once they do for a while they'll stick with it out of habit. Not all, but many. 

Eventually bud will recover but this is going to cost them many many many billions in sales. And you can bet they'll be avoiding donating to any of the lettered people causes.

It's kind of a shame that this happened.  I mean really - they sent a trans person a beer at the end of the day.  It's not like the sponsored 'homo-the-clown" to dance naked at children's parties or the like. The reaction is way out of proportion because bud is wearing the anger over people being harassed about trans stuff day and night.

Diminished sales? Yes. For how long.. no one knows. My guess is a few months. I come from a poor working class background and know that the bottom line dictates the choice. At the end of the day.. beer tastes the same, costs about the same, and if you poor the water into something else and throw the can away... no need to look at a trans person or whatever it is. 

Posted
1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

Diminished sales? Yes. For how long.. no one knows. My guess is a few months.

Hard to say. It may technically be forever. some customers may leave and just get used to other beer and never come back. But a small number of those won't make a huge difference. Regardless, they'll have lost billions over it even if it is only just a few months.

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

I come from a poor working class background and know that the bottom line dictates the choice. At the end of the day.. beer tastes the same, costs about the same, and if you poor the water into something else and throw the can away... no need to look at a trans person or whatever it is. 

People tend to be creatures of habit. They go to a new brand, that's what they'll decide they buy.

And there's a certain stickyness. there are still a LOT of men who won't buy gilette products. Not enough to make a huge difference but definitely out there. And how long's that been? I moved away from gilette and havent' gone back , I like my current system so i don't really think about it. So gillette loses about 200 bucks a year in sales from me every year due to their little faux pas even tho i'm not that mad anymore.

 

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2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Hard to say. It may technically be forever. some customers may leave and just get used to other beer and never come back. But a small number of those won't make a huge difference. Regardless, they'll have lost billions over it even if it is only just a few months.

People tend to be creatures of habit. They go to a new brand, that's what they'll decide they buy.

And there's a certain stickyness. there are still a LOT of men who won't buy gilette products. Not enough to make a huge difference but definitely out there. And how long's that been? I moved away from gilette and havent' gone back , I like my current system so i don't really think about it. So gillette loses about 200 bucks a year in sales from me every year due to their little faux pas even tho i'm not that mad anymore.

 

One detail that both of us left out is that Bud is just one of many brands/beers under the InBev umbrella. Do you honestly think Joe Blow factory workers going to get a six pack on tuesday night is going to stop at the beer cooler and research which beers in front of him are part of InBev? I know, you are the one exception but Joe Blow factory worker is not going to care. 

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On 4/26/2023 at 8:18 AM, ExFlyer said:

I like Bud Light and Coors light as do millions of others.

Diss it all you want but fact is Coors Light is the number one beer in Canada.

https://www.thedailygopher.com/2011/2/22/2008536/today-im-ashamed-of-canada

I recall it is the only beer my favourite guitarist Allan Holdsworth liked when he toured the United States. He is, or rather was, a beer brewer back in his home in the UK.

As he stated in one interview, all the US beers were pretty aweful, but he liked Coors light because it "Didn't pretend to be anything else."

If only he knew...   ;) 

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4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

One detail that both of us left out is that Bud is just one of many brands/beers under the InBev umbrella. Do you honestly think Joe Blow factory workers going to get a six pack on tuesday night is going to stop at the beer cooler and research which beers in front of him are part of InBev? I know, you are the one exception but Joe Blow factory worker is not going to care. 

No  you're right many won't and some will inevitably switch in protest to another inbev product :)  

but - at the end of the day bud will still take a massive hit and for its people this will be a big deal. And inbev will take some loss for sure. And will be looking at that and its other brands saying "Maybe the rest of you need to pay attention to this".

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

No  and some will inevitably switch in protest to another inbev product :)  

but - at the end of the day bud will still take a massive hit and for its people this will be a big deal. And inbev will take some loss for sure. And will be looking at that and its other brands saying "Maybe the rest of you need to pay attention to this".

 

It is awfully strange how one prefers one water down lager over another. Coors, MGD, Olympia, Bud, Busch... all taste about the same. 

I like my craft beer.. probably a bit too much. If I am going to ingest the calories from a beer, it needs to be worth it. Lackluster, water down, 4.2% lager.... not worth it. 12.8 abv barleywine-style ale.. now, we are talking. 

Posted
30 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

It is awfully strange how one prefers one water down lager over another.

I agree. Its like arguing over who's got the superior instant cup noodles.

 

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56 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

It is awfully strange how one prefers one water down lager over another. Coors, MGD, Olympia, Bud, Busch... all taste about the same. 

I like my craft beer.. ....

The reason there are thousand if not tens of thousands of beers is because everyone likes something different.

We don't call out your taste in beers so, don't call out others. :)

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

Posted
13 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

 

We don't call out your taste in beers so, don't call out others. :)

So you're sticking with the idea that bud lite is beer?

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33 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So you're sticking with the idea that bud lite is beer?

Yup, I like it and like Coors light too. :)

I like some other types too.

"Beer is an alcoholic beverage produced by extracting raw materials with water, boiling (usually with hops), and fermenting. In some countries, beer is defined by law—as in Germany, where the standard ingredients, besides water, are malt (kiln-dried germinated barley), hops, and yeast."

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yup, I like it and like Coors light too. :)

 

Look man ... i supported the gays.  I accepted the trans. I even acknowledge that people like AAntifa have a right to their views.  But ...  the line for deviant behavior must be drawn somewhere!!!   :)

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Posted
5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Look man ... i supported the gays.  I accepted the trans. I even acknowledge that people like AAntifa have a right to their views.  But ...  the line for deviant behavior must be drawn somewhere!!!   :)

OK, I know I lost my place in the beer drinkers hall of fame. ? :(

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

Posted
7 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

So do you wear a miniskirt when you drink that swill?

or what

Uh Oh. Coors lite trans backlash in 3..... 2.....1.....

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

So do you wear a miniskirt when you drink that swill?

or what

No, florescent short shorts :)

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Posted
4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

No, florescent short shorts :)

Why!?!? Why would you say that?? GODDAMIT - i've gotta sleep tonite at some point and i'd RATHER not wake up screaming...

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Well, Coors light is not some beacon of Conservative purity. They have been a primary sponsor of the Denver PrideFest for quite some time. 

I guess those who hate this kind of thing can always revert back to even less appealing beers such as Mickey's, Olde English, Steel Reserve 211, Old Milwaukee, or gasp! Colt 45. 

Posted
7 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Well, Coors light is not some beacon of Conservative purity. They have been a primary sponsor of the Denver PrideFest for quite some time. 

I guess those who hate this kind of thing can always revert back to even less appealing beers such as Mickey's, Olde English, Steel Reserve 211, Old Milwaukee, or gasp! Colt 45. 

So has bud.  Both have long histories of it.  It's not the issue.

As i've said it's foolish to think given the scope of the backlash that this is really about people disliking trans people.  It just isn't for the most part.  The majority of people just don't give a crap if some he/she drinks a beer.

This is about wokeism and throwing this crap in people's face night and day. You can't go 5 mins without hearing about the poor trans people. For YEARS now. And now you can't even have a beer without it being political.

That's the backlash. If you talked that much about kittens people would be fed up about kittens. The trans political movement has gone too far and now there's a backlash.

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