German MP calls for Anglo-Khazarian occupiers to leave Germany

[Dougie93]

Just now, Americana Antifa said:

They saw marxism as a positive force that benefits everyone.

but you disagree

since you have said that you are not Marxist

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

The nazi idea was/is that through the promotion of things like atheism, feminism, trans identity, homosexuality, society would crumble and somehow embrace marxism, which would lead to an authoritarian society with the marxist Jews in control. That's obviously not what the Frankfurt School was going for.

but isn't society embracing Marxism now ?

isn't society degenerating into authoritarianism now ?

perhaps the road to Marxist totalitarian hell was paved by the Frankfurt School's good intentions ?

[Americana Antifa]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

but isn't society embracing Marxism now ?

isn't society degenerating into authoritarianism now ?

perhaps the road to Marxist totalitarian hell was paved by the Frankfurt School's good intentions ?

Absolutely not. Even on the Left, marxism is extremely rare these days. I admire Marx and Engels a lot and I'm not a marxist.

And no, society is still mostly against authoritarianism. The only people pushing for authoritarianism are on the Right and they're the minority in America, Canada, Germany, and most western countries.

[Americana Antifa]

6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but you disagree

since you have said that you are not Marxist

Yes, but I'm honest enough to know that marxists aren't authoritarian.

[Americana Antifa]

10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

that is such an expansive definition of Nazi that it really just renders the term meaningless

I define nazis as people who are reactionary, authoritarian, and believe in conspiracy theories similar to cultural bolshevism. Is that really that expansive?

[Dougie93]

Just now, Americana Antifa said:

I define nazis as people who are reactionary, authoritarian, and believe in conspiracy theories similar to cultural bolshevism. Is that really that expansive?

I think the Nazis would disagree

I think the Nazis would declaim most people who do that as being untermensch

again, to be a Nazi, you have to be Aryan

it doesn't matter what your politics are, all that matters is if you are the Master Race, or not

you could be a right wing reactionary Jew who vehemently declaimed the Jewish left as being Bolsheviks

but that would not save you from the Nazis

[OftenWrong]

Stupid Germans dismantled their nuclear reactors (peaceful use of nuclear) but cannot shed the nukes.

[Dougie93]

18 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Stupid Germans dismantled their nuclear reactors (peaceful use of nuclear) but cannot shed the nukes.

nuclear reactors produce plutonium as a waste product

plutonium is the thing you implode with explosive lenses to initiate a nuclear detonation

if you implode the plutonium next to a capsule of lithium deteuride, that's a hydrogen bomb

so of you have nuclear reactors, you have the means to produce nuclear weapons

even Canada is considered to be a de facto nuclear power, just from all the plutonium Canada owns

there's enough plutonium at Pickering Ontario to make many thermonuclear bombs

America seeks to prevent the weaponization of this plutonium, particularly in Europe

by providing an American nuclear deterrent umbrella instead

America provides twenty B61 thermonuclear bombs for use by the Germans

thus precluding the Germans from having to launch their own nuclear weapons program

Edited April 5, 2023 by Dougie93

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

I think the Nazis would disagree

I think the Nazis would declaim most people who do that as being untermensch

again, to be a Nazi, you have to be Aryan

it doesn't matter what your politics are, all that matters is if you are the Master Race, or not

you could be a right wing reactionary Jew who vehemently declaimed the Jewish left as being Bolsheviks

but that would not save you from the Nazis

Back then, nazis were usually defined as being members of the Nazi Party. And yes, you had to be an Aryan to join the party. So sure, back then part of being a nazi was being Aryan. At most, non-aryan people could just be nazi collaborators or nazi sympathizers.

However, the Nazi Party no longer exists. So it doesn't make sense to say that people who believe in nazism aren't nazis because they're not members of the Nazi Party. I think it's fair to define neo-nazism the way I do. If you disagree because my definition includes non-aryan people, ok, but that doesn't mean my definition is expansive. My definition still points to a very specific ideology of authoritarianism. 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 If you disagree because my definition includes non-aryan people, ok, but that doesn't mean my definition is expansive. My definition still points to a very specific ideology of authoritarianism. 

I don't subscribe to your view that any authoritarian whom you disagree with is a Nazi

I would say that there a many anti-Semitic authoritarian ideologies which are not National Socialist

starting with the Bolsheviks themselves

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

I don't subscribe to your view that any authoritarian whom you disagree with is a Nazi

I would say that there a many anti-Semitic authoritarian ideologies which are not National Socialist

starting with the Bolsheviks themselves

Dude, come on. I said a nazi is a reactionary authoritarian who believes in conspiracy theories based on cultural bolshevism.

Tankies are authoritarian, but they're not nazis. Even most trumpian fascists aren't nazis.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Tankies are authoritarian, but they're not nazis.

but that is what I'm saying

I don't conclude that Athos for example is a Nazi

he just seems like a Bolshevik, a Tankie as you say

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

but that is what I'm saying

I don't conclude that Athos for example is a Nazi

he just seems like a Bolshevik, a Tankie as you say

You said that I think any authoritarian that I disagree with is a nazi, which is obviously not what I'm saying. I have a very specific definition for nazis.

Athos is likely a nazi because he's using a nazi conspiracy theory. But I don't know, he's been too much of a coward to respond to my questions.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

You said that I think any authoritarian that I disagree with is a nazi, which is obviously not what I'm saying. I have a very specific definition for nazis.

but it's not obvious

as there are many who invoke the "Cultural Marxism of the Frankfurt School" as being degenerate to the West

who are clearly not Nazis nor Nazi sympathizers

[Americana Antifa]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

but it's not obvious

as there are many who invoke the "Cultural Marxism of the Frankfurt School" as being degenerate to the West

who are clearly not Nazis nor Nazi sympathizers

Yes, usually when the Republicans do this, they're just dog whistling to nazis. Which is why that's what I say. I don't call Ted Cruz a nazi when he does this, but I do point out that what he's doing is nazism and it shows that we have a growing neo-nazi problem in America and Canada.

[Americana Antifa]

5 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Athos might like AntiFa.

Antifa generally doesn't promote nazi theories.

[Americana Antifa]

3 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I just showed you otherwise upstairs. 

No, you showed me a picture and a bizarre rant that had nothing to do with anything.

[Dougie93]

11 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

but I do point out that what he's doing is nazism and it shows that we have a growing neo-nazi problem in America and Canada.

again, I find your definition of "Neo Nazi" to be vastly too expansive

I think it is counterproductive to your stated goals

I think its turning the vast majority of the population against you

[Americana Antifa]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

again, I find your definition of "Neo Nazi" to be vastly too expansive

I think it is counterproductive to your stated goals

I think its turning the vast majority of the population against you

Well the vast majority is with me on most issues. So I disagree there.

And I don't think it's too expansive, especially since it covers a minority on the Right.

[Americana Antifa]

7 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Why are you here, really, on this thread? Are you afraid to look athos in the mirror, that maybe, that is where your ideology leads? 

He is an old communist, that probably in his younger days read Marx and believed just like you, now, the civilised world is surrounding him and he is trying to make a $ by posting non-sense over the internet. 

Like the below, when I caught him once: 

Do you want to end up like him? Keep promoting AntiFa. You will get there. 

Is this more satire? 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Well the vast majority is with me on most issues. So I disagree there.

then we have a reached an impasse

no reason to belabour our points from here

moving on

[Americana Antifa]

3 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Im Jahr 2023 ist die Polizei für das zuständig, was Antifaschisten früher getan haben! Vorwärts Zentristische Kräfte! Nein zur Gewalt, nein zur marxistischen Ideologie!

Du bist auf Deutsch ein bisschen interessanter.

[OftenWrong]

5 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

nuclear reactors produce plutonium as a waste product

plutonium is the thing you implode with explosive lenses to initiate a nuclear detonation

if you implode the plutonium next to a capsule of lithium deteuride, that's a hydrogen bomb

so of you have nuclear reactors, you have the means to produce nuclear weapons

even Canada is considered to be a de facto nuclear power, just from all the plutonium Canada owns

there's enough plutonium at Pickering Ontario to make many thermonuclear bombs

America seeks to prevent the weaponization of this plutonium, particularly in Europe

by providing an American nuclear deterrent umbrella instead

America provides twenty B61 thermonuclear bombs for use by the Germans

thus precluding the Germans from having to launch their own nuclear weapons program

Basically everything you've said is correct. However, that's not the reason they took down their power reactors. It was in response to Fukushima in which an earthquake caused a tidal wave to hit the building. Evidently they get a lot of tidal waves in Germany.

They didn't just shut them down, they demolished the buildings and reactor cores.

I don't know what kind of reactors they had but if they were based on CANDU, they produce less plutonium and it can be re-used by mixing it in uranium material.

[athos]

On 4/4/2023 at 11:09 AM, Americana Antifa said:

I don't have his number.

Do you not know who the Anglo-Khazarians are? If so, it's kinda strange to be talking about them.

Ask then members of the current and former US political elite like Blinken, Victoria Nuland, Soros, Bill Gates, Henry Kissinger, Wesley Clark, Hilary Clinton......all of them with a Khazarian background. You  don't even know who the rulers of your Anglo Disneyland are.

[Americana Antifa]

4 minutes ago, athos said:

Ask then members of the current and former US political elite like Blinken, Victoria Nuland, Soros, Bill Gates, Henry Kissinger, Wesley Clark, Hilary Clinton......all of them with a Khazarian background. You  don't even know who the rulers of your Anglo Disneyland are.

So you think they're all Jews.

Why are modern nazis such pussies? The original nazis were totally open with their conspiracy theories. Hitler and Goebbels wouldn't be dog whistling about "George Soros." They'd just say it's the Jews.