German MP calls for Anglo-Khazarian occupiers to leave Germany

[athos]

 

"Go home with your nukes"

Berlin must break with its “relationship of extreme subservience” to America and its foreign policies “marked by breaches of international law,” Sevim Dagdelen, the deputy head of the Left party’s faction in the Bundestag, said on Friday. Germany must demand that US forces withdraw, along with their nuclear weapons, she added.

“After 78 years, it is now time for the US soldiers to go home,” Dagdelen announced at a parliamentary event marking the 75th anniversary of the Marshall Plan. The US military bases act “like extraterrestrial zones where the [German] constitution does not apply,” the MP, who is also a member of the parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee, said.

Washington uses its bases in Germany to wage wars abroad and launch “lethal drone strikes,” Dagdelen said, adding that some of these actions are “in breach of international law.”
She also criticized the regular NATO meetings at America’s Ramstein Air Base in Germany, where military aid to Kiev is discussed. Washington hosts these conferences “as if the Occupation Statute were still in force,” the MP said, adding that Berlin also allowed the US to put Germany “in the line of fire” with the German-made Leopard tank deliveries to Ukraine.
German lawmakers made a decision on the withdrawal of America’s nuclear weapons in 2010, but these arms are still in place, Dagdelen said. “We stand by our position: the US nuclear weapons must go”, she added.
“The US administration gives the impression that they do not want allies, just loyal vassals,” the MP said, pointing to America’s negligence toward its partners’ interests and demands. According to Dagdelen, “fewer and fewer countries around the world are prepared to accept this.” A true friendship should be based on mutual respect for human rights and international law, the MP added.
Germany hosts by far the largest number of US military personnel out of all European nations. Over 35,000 American troops were stationed on its soil as of 2022. Italy, which hosts the second-largest number of American soldiers.

 

[Americana Antifa]

13 minutes ago, athos said:

 

"Go home with your nukes"

Berlin must break with its “relationship of extreme subservience” to America and its foreign policies “marked by breaches of international law,” Sevim Dagdelen, the deputy head of the Left party’s faction in the Bundestag, said on Friday. Germany must demand that US forces withdraw, along with their nuclear weapons, she added.

“After 78 years, it is now time for the US soldiers to go home,” Dagdelen announced at a parliamentary event marking the 75th anniversary of the Marshall Plan. The US military bases act “like extraterrestrial zones where the [German] constitution does not apply,” the MP, who is also a member of the parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee, said.

Washington uses its bases in Germany to wage wars abroad and launch “lethal drone strikes,” Dagdelen said, adding that some of these actions are “in breach of international law.”
She also criticized the regular NATO meetings at America’s Ramstein Air Base in Germany, where military aid to Kiev is discussed. Washington hosts these conferences “as if the Occupation Statute were still in force,” the MP said, adding that Berlin also allowed the US to put Germany “in the line of fire” with the German-made Leopard tank deliveries to Ukraine.
German lawmakers made a decision on the withdrawal of America’s nuclear weapons in 2010, but these arms are still in place, Dagdelen said. “We stand by our position: the US nuclear weapons must go”, she added.
“The US administration gives the impression that they do not want allies, just loyal vassals,” the MP said, pointing to America’s negligence toward its partners’ interests and demands. According to Dagdelen, “fewer and fewer countries around the world are prepared to accept this.” A true friendship should be based on mutual respect for human rights and international law, the MP added.
Germany hosts by far the largest number of US military personnel out of all European nations. Over 35,000 American troops were stationed on its soil as of 2022. Italy, which hosts the second-largest number of American soldiers.

 

"Anglo-Khazarian," eh?

[athos]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

"Anglo-Khazarian," eh?

This woman is so brave. People living outside the EU cannot understand the pressure being placed on politicians and even the general public to "conform". Anyone who speaks the raw truth is immediately branded an enemy of the state. George Orwell couldn't have described it better.

“To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”
Henry Kissinger

Germany experienced it so well.

[Americana Antifa]

5 minutes ago, athos said:

This woman is so brave. People living outside the EU cannot understand the pressure being placed on politicians and even the general public to "conform". Anyone who speaks the raw truth is immediately branded an enemy of the state. George Orwell couldn't have described it better.

“To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”
Henry Kissinger

Germany experienced it so well.

Uh-huh... What does she mean by "Anglo-Khazarian" exactly?

[Dougie93]

the intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty is no longer in effect

Russia is deploying RN-28 tactical thermonuclear bombs

and Iskander-M tactical thermonuclear ballistic missiles

NATO has no choice now but to enhance its theatre counterforce posture in the face of that

not only with B61-12 tactical thermonuclear bombs

the AGM-86 thermonuclear cruise missile should be deployed with bombers to Europe as well

the Tomahawk cruise missiles at sea should also be armed with tactical nuclear warheads once again

nuclear deterrence has a logic unto itself

one simply cannot surrender in the face of nuclear blackmail

the Balance of Terror must be maintained

[Dougie93]

Germany is the weak link and always has been

East German Angela Merkel served as Vladimir Putin's stalwart ally within the ranks of NATO from 2005

Americans need to understand that Russia is revanchist against America

Ukraine is just a proxy

there is no splendid isolation in the face of hydrogen bombs

we will be dragged into this fight inexorably, kicking & screaming about it won't save us

Peace Through Strength is the only safe option

Slava Ukraini, Geroyim Slava

[Dougie93]

one should also understand, that Ukraine has the nuclear reactors, many many of them

so as a waste product, Ukraine has the plutonium

so if Ukraine is simply abandoned

they will have no choice but to initiate their own crash nuclear weapons program

again, splendid isolation is not safety

all that simply happens therein, is that things escalate wildly out of control on their own accord

our nuclear deterrent umbrella over Europe is not even for their protection

it is for our protection

to prevent escalation in theatre to our ultimate existential peril under the ice over the pole

[Aristides]

Someone should tell that dumb ass there are no nukes in Germany.

[Aristides]

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Peace Through Strength is the only safe option

It always has been.

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Someone should tell that dumb ass there are no nukes in Germany.

yes there are

NATO stores B61 tactical thermonuclear bombs at Büchel Air Base in Rhineland-Palatinate

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

It always has been.

but that is not through MAD in this case

MAD only applies at the strategic level for an interpolar exchange

so this is an emerging threat scenario

this confrontation is at the theatre level once again, first time since 1987

this is a meeting engagement essentially

the Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty is no longer in effect

the Intermediate Nuclear Fores Treaty is no longer in effect

so this is an INF v. ABM precipitous intertheatre escalation

both sides moving their tactical nuclear weapons around like chess peices

jockeying for position

[Aristides]

36 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

yes there are

NATO stores B61 tactical thermonuclear bombs at Büchel Air Base in Rhineland-Palatinate

I stand corrected. Between 10 and 20 gravity bombs stored at a German Airforce base for use by Luftwaffe Tornados.

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

but that is not through MAD in this case

MAD only applies at the strategic level for an interpolar exchange

so this is an emerging threat scenario

this confrontation is at the theatre level once again, first time since 1987

this is a meeting engagement essentially

the Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty is no longer in effect

the Intermediate Nuclear Fores Treaty is no longer in effect

so this is an INF v. ABM precipitous intertheatre escalation

both sides moving their tactical nuclear weapons around like chess peices

jockeying for position

Real strength is determined by conventional forces, once nukes come into play, everyone loses. The best way to avoid using nukes is a strong conventional force.

[Dougie93]

Just now, Aristides said:

I stand corrected. Between 10 and 20 gravity bombs stored at a German Airforce base for use by Luftwaffe Tornados.

each one of those bombs being Fully Fused Option ( FUFO )

that's "dial-a-yeild" between 0.3 kilotons, essentially a battlefield neutron bomb in effect

to a maximum yield of 340 kilotons, which is just short of the largest American warhead, the W87 at 475 Kt's

so 20 of those bombs at maximum yield, is a very formidable arsenal indeed, just at that base in Germany

and there are three other bases like that in NATO

in the Netherlands, Italy & Turkey

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Real strength is determined by conventional forces, once nukes come into play, everyone loses. The best way to avoid using nukes is a strong conventional force.

and that is where Ukraine comes in

the Ukrainians are providing us with the conventional force in the breach on the trace

in that the Ukrainians are exposing that the Russians simply cannot compete in a conventional war

[Aristides]

The weapons stored at Buchel are dual key authorization, the US cannot use them without German authorization.

[Dougie93]

26 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The weapons stored at Buchel are dual key authorization, the US cannot use them without German authorization.

the B61 tactical thermonuclear bombs in Europe are specifically for the use of the NATO allies

America has its own arsenal of B61's, B83s, AGM-86 cruise missiles & W76-2 tactical MIRV's on Trident II SLBM's

America doesn't need any authorization from NATO to use tactical nuclear weapons in theatre

if America was going to strike however, it would be from submarines at sea, and bombers deployed to England

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

The best way to avoid using nukes is a strong conventional force.

the only Russian leverage is their nuclear powered submarine cruisers

they could laterally escalate to the high seas, wreak havoc on the Strategic Lines of Communication ( SLOC )

this would be a high risk gambit tho, war at sea is immediately volatile

no signs so far that Putin is prepared to take things there

there is likely a silent war submarine jockeying for position in play

but the Russians haven't crossed the threshold into undersea warfare as of yet, based on the lack of effects

if they start cutting the undersea internet cables, power lines, or pipelines. pretty sure we'll notice right away

 

[Aristides]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the only Russian leverage is their nuclear powered submarine cruisers

they could laterally escalate to the high seas, wreak havoc on the Strategic Lines of Communication ( SLOC )

this would be a high risk gambit tho, war at sea is immediately volatile

no signs so far that Putin is prepared to take things there

there is likely a silent war submarine jockeying for position in play

but the Russians haven't crossed the threshold into undersea warfare as of yet, based on the lack of effects

if they start cutting the undersea internet cables, power lines, or pipelines. pretty sure we'll notice right away

 

That would be an act of war which would justify a NATO response.

[Dougie93]

18 minutes ago, Aristides said:

That would be an act of war which would justify a NATO response.

soon as they start shooting torpedoes under keels at sea

that will be World War Three in progress therein

if the Russians deploy the Belgorod to conduct undersea warfare

NATO is going to do what ?

sink it ?

there would be no turning back from there

the Russian concept of operations would be escalation dominance

by taking things further than NATO is willing to go, to force NATO to the bargaining table

Edited April 3, 2023 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

39 minutes ago, Aristides said:

That would be an act of war which would justify a NATO response.

it really all comes down to Vladimir V. Putin himself personally

because the entire Russian government has been replaced at this point by the Putin cult of the personality

so who is he really ?

is he just a psychopathic kleptocrat ( Stalin ) ?

or is he a true believer ( Khrushchev ) ?

if Stalin, the highest concern would be self preservation : avoid a direct confrontation with America at any cost

if Khrushchev, then he would be willing to take things to the brink of war beyond even his own control

things didn't actually heat up directly between the Soviets & America, until Khrushchev replaced Stalin

[athos]

19 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Uh-huh... What does she mean by "Anglo-Khazarian" exactly?

The fact is that Anglo-Khazarian mafia has ruled America for a while thru their corporations, Military industrial complex and Wall Street Banksters.

[Americana Antifa]

2 minutes ago, athos said:

The fact is that Anglo-Khazarian mafia has ruled America for a while thru their corporations, Military industrial complex and Wall Street Banksters.

Who are the Anglo-Khazarians? What is the Anglo-Khazarian mafia?

[athos]

6 hours ago, Aristides said:

Someone should tell that dumb ass there are no nukes in Germany.

Please be responsible and don't spread misinformation.

[athos]

2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Who are the Anglo-Khazarians? What is the Anglo-Khazarian mafia?

Ask Biden.