German MP calls for Anglo-Khazarian occupiers to leave Germany

[Americana Antifa]

16 minutes ago, athos said:

Ask Biden.

I don't have his number.

Do you not know who the Anglo-Khazarians are? If so, it's kinda strange to be talking about them.

[Dougie93]

On 4/3/2023 at 8:47 PM, Americana Antifa said:

Who are the Anglo-Khazarians?

Khazarian is a term for people who lived in the South Caucasus in the Middle Ages

that would be the Armenians at this point

[Americana Antifa]

50 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Khazarian is a term for people who lived in the South Caucasus in the Middle Ages

that would be the Armenians at this point

Yeah, but he means Jews. I just want to see if he has the balls to admit it.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Yeah, but he means Jews. I just want to see if he has the balls to admit it.

I can only extrapolate from the word origin

Khazars are definitely not Jews, they are Turkic Eastern Orthodox

 

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

I can only extrapolate from the word origin

Khazars are definitely not Jews, they are Turkic Eastern Orthodox

 

Yeah, but there's a conspiracy theory about the Ashkenazi Jews actually being Khazars. That's what nazis mean when they say "Anglo-Khazarian." 

It's actually kinda similar to the black Hebrew conspiracy theory, which also says that Ashkenazi Jews are imposters. 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

Yeah, but there's a conspiracy theory about the Ashkenazi Jews actually being Khazars. That's what nazis mean when they say "Anglo-Khazarian." 

It's actually kinda similar to the black Hebrew conspiracy theory, which also says that Ashkenazi Jews are imposters. 

well they must be confused then

because the Ashkenazi are from northern Europe, France, Germany,  Poland

while the Khazars are the Armenian Turkic Christians from the South Caucasus

[Americana Antifa]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

well they must be confused then

because the Ashkenazi are from northern Europe, France, Germany,  Poland

while the Khazars are the Armenian Turkic Christians from the South Caucasus

Yeah, but conservatives aren't exactly pro-reality.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

Yeah, but conservatives aren't exactly pro-reality.

even more confusing, is that the Khazars are in fact allied to the Kremlin

the Khazars fight with Russia for Putin against the Islamic Turks in Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh 

[Dougie93]

25 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 That's what nazis mean when they say "Anglo-Khazarian."

but the Russians were virulently anti-Semitic, the chief persecutors of the Jews, long before National Socialism

the Russian persecution is based on Eastern Orthodox Christianity, the Jews being whom had Jesus crucified

whereas the National Socialists invoked the Jewish Bolshevik Conspiracy

so from the point of view of the Nazis, Athos is a Jewish Bolshevist himself

Putin is KGB

the Nazis would invoke that as being the very heart of the Jewish Bolshevik Conspiracy

[Dougie93]

31 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Yeah, but conservatives aren't exactly pro-reality.

in fairness tho, you throw the term "Nazi" around promisculously

when it doesn't actually seem like you know what it means

National Socialism is very specific

it's all laid out in Mein Kampf

and as such, there is zero chance Adolf Hitler would ever ally himself with Vladimir Putin

furthermore, the Nazis did in fact ally themselves with NATO

the Soviets foolishly brought the Nazis out of the GULAG and put them in charge of East Germany

those Nazis then became NATO's best agents against the Kremlin

the East German Nazis were working for the CIA against the Soviets

[Americana Antifa]

8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

in fairness tho, you throw the term "Nazi" around promisculously

Not really. I only use the term for reactionary authoritarians who believe the Jews are behind the cultural marxism conspiracy or at least similar conspiracies about the Jews.

Even when I say that the fascist Republicans are dog whistling to nazis, I'm careful to draw the distinction here. The Republicans are not nazis, many of their donors and pundits are actually Jewish. However, they are fascist, and they know that many of their supporters are nazis, so they pretend to believe in nazi conspiracy theories.

8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

and as such, there is zero chance Adolf Hitler would ever ally himself with Vladimir Putin

Why not? I know Russians were racially inferior according to nazi propaganda, but the nazis still aligned themselves with the Soviet Union.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

Why not?

because again, we already know who the Nazis sided with

the Nazis sided with NATO

the Nazis given a chance to choose

chose to fight against the Russian "Sphere of Influence"

on behalf of America & Britain, for the CIA & MI6

[Americana Antifa]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

because again, we already know who the Nazis sided with

the Nazis sided with NATO

the Nazis given a chance to choose

chose to fight against the Russian "Sphere of Influence"

on behalf of America & Britain, for the CIA & MI6

Those were the original nazis. They sided with NATO in return for not being held accountable for their war crimes.

Today's nazis generally side with Russia and China because they are authoritarian countries. If the original nazis were still around and in power, they'd probably try to strike a deal with Russia in order to share Eastern Europe, much like they did with the Soviet Union.

Edited April 5, 2023 by Americana Antifa

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Not really. I only use the term for reactionary authoritarians who believe the Jews are behind the cultural marxism conspiracy or at least similar conspiracies about the Jews.

reactionary authoritarian conspiracy theories about the Jews dates all the way back to the Roman Empire

the chief Nazi grievance was not even about the Jews

Hitler doesn't even mention the Jews until chapter eleven of Mein Kampf

the chief Nazi grievance was the degeneracy of the Weimar Republic

Hitler's first & foremost complaint was about the art

modern art, the modern art born of the catastrophe of the Great War

"degenerate art" he called it

according to Mein Kampf, this "Kuntzart" is corrupting, destroying civilization somehow

Hitler's primary adversary was not even the Jews, it was Picasso

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

. They sided with NATO in return for not being held accountable for their war crimes.

not at all, they were already held responsible, they were sent to the GULAG

it wasn't NATO which brought them out of the GULAG

it was Antifa who brought them out of the GULAG, to run East Germany on behalf of the Kremlin

wherein the Nazis were simply traitors, who became agents for the CIA therein

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Today's nazis generally side with Russia and China because they are authoritarian countries. If the original nazis were still around and in power, they'd probably try to strike a deal with Russia in order to share Eastern Europe, much like they did with the Soviet Union.

that deal was only struck to buy time for Hitler to prepare his all out assault on the Soviet Union

in terms of who the Nazis would ally themselves with now ?

I would suggest it would be with Sunni Wahhabists in Saudi Arabia & Turkiye

the Nazis would side with MBS & Erdogan

[Americana Antifa]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

not at all, they were already held responsible, they were sent to the GULAG

it wasn't NATO which brought them out of the GULAG

But like you said, they were taken out of the gulags and given a much better life working in government. And it was the same for the former nazis who were captured by the western Allies. It's not like at the height of their power, Nazi Germany decided to align with NATO. They did it after they no longer had power and just didn't want to be imprisoned.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

But like you said, they were taken out of the gulags and given a much better life working in government. And it was the same for the former nazis who were captured by the western Allies. It's not like at the height of their power, Nazi Germany decided to align with NATO. They did it after they no longer had power and just didn't want to be imprisoned.

but the Nazis did in fact side with the Entente at first

the Nazis were the Entente's bulwark against the Soviets at first

Hitler did not want a war with Britain & France

Hitler did not declare war on Britain nor France

Britain & France declared war on Hitler, over Poland and the threat to the Suez Canal by the Pact of Steel

who says the Nazis were opposed to a German led European Union backed up by America ?

that would have suited the Nazis, that was the result they were actually hoping for at first

 

[Americana Antifa]

8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

reactionary authoritarian conspiracy theories about the Jews dates all the way back to the Roman Empire

True, but nazism complied all of these conspiracy theories into one ideology and that's where these modern beliefs from from. When you talk to modern nazis, they claim that Jews from the Frankfurt School have infiltrated our media to spread degeneracy. This is specifically the "Cultural Bolshevism" version of the ancient theory that Jews are destroying society through the promotion of (what we would today call) left-wing values. 

8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the chief Nazi grievance was not even about the Jews

Hitler doesn't even mention the Jews until chapter eleven of Mein Kampf

the chief Nazi grievance was the degeneracy of the Weimar Republic

But they saw the degeneracy of the Weimar Republic as being part of a conspiracy theory involving the Jews trying to destroy traditional German culture. With the possible exception of nordicism, everything went back to fighting against degeneracy that the Jews are causing.

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

But they saw the degeneracy of the Weimar Republic as being part of a conspiracy theory involving the Jews trying to destroy traditional German culture. With the possible exception of nordicism, everything went back to fighting against degeneracy that the Jews are causing.

but persecution of the Jews was monolithic at the time

Canada persecuted Jews at the time

when left wing Liberal Prime Minister MacKenzie-King was asked how many Jewish refugees Canada would take

he said "one Jew is too many"

so there is nothing particular to the Nazis about persecuting Jews

the Jewish Bolshevik Conspiracy was about the Bolsheviks

the Conspiracy said that the Jews were empowering them

but the actual threat was Slavs from the East

the Teutonic Knights v. Alexander Nevsky

[Americana Antifa]

14 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

that deal was only struck to buy time for Hitler to prepare his all out assault on the Soviet Union

in terms of who the Nazis would ally themselves with now ?

I would suggest it would be with Sunni Wahhabists in Saudi Arabia & Turkiye

the Nazis would side with MBS & Erdogan

The point is that the nazis were willing to side with the Soviet Union, even if they were always planning on stabbing them in the back. As far as we know, the plan was for the nazis and the bolsheviks to divide up Eastern Europe. If Nazi Germany was still a thing, the nazis would side with whoever made it possible for them to carry out their goals. And like Stalin, Putin is a imperialist authoritarian who works with other dictators.

It's worth mentioning that historians don't know for sure if the nazis were always planning on invading Russia. All we can say for sure is that the nazis were pragmatic, they worked with the Soviet Union while it benefitted them. When Stalin got too greedy, they decided to invade. 

[Dougie93]

12 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 they claim that Jews from the Frankfurt School have infiltrated our media to spread degeneracy. This is specifically the "Cultural Bolshevism" version of the ancient theory that Jews are destroying society through the promotion of (what we would today call) left-wing values.

but the Frankfurt School openly stated that was their purpose

that they would "march through the institutions" to impose Marxism from within those insitutions

so seems like conspiracy in plain sight

[Americana Antifa]

11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but the Nazis did in fact side with the Entente at first

the Nazis were the Entente's bulwark against the Soviets at first

Hitler did not want a war with Britain & France

Hitler did not declare war on Britain nor France

Britain & France declared war on Hitler, over Poland and the threat to the Suez Canal by the Pact of Steel

who says the Nazis were opposed to a German led European Union backed up by America ?

that would have suited the Nazis, that was the result they were actually hoping for at first

 

 

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but persecution of the Jews was monolithic at the time

Canada persecuted Jews at the time

when left wing Liberal Prime Minister MacKenzie-King was asked how many Jewish refugees Canada would take

he said "one Jew is too many"

so there is nothing particular to the Nazis about persecuting Jews

the Jewish Bolshevik Conspiracy was about the Bolsheviks

the Conspiracy said that the Jews were empowering them

but the actual threat was Slavs from the East

the Teutonic Knights v. Alexander Nevsky

I'm not saying the nazis were the only anti-jewish party or movement in the world. I'm saying they had a specific brand of anti-jewish ideology, which was mainly the cultural bolshevism conspiracy theory.

And that's the ideology that defines today's nazis. Sure, it's not exactly the same, there is no Bolshevik Party or Soviet Union anymore. But the "Cultural Marxism" theory is pretty much the same thing. Western Civilization is being destroyed by "degeneracy" being promoted through media by a secret society of marxist Jews from the Frankfurt School.

Also, not everyone who believes something similar is a nazi. There are a lot of fascists who are against "degeneracy" and democracy, but don't see it as a conspiracy theory or think Jews are involved. They're just hardcore traditionalists and authoritarian. The Daily Wire crew is fascist, or at least they pretend to be, but I wouldn't call them nazis or even anti-jewish.

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 If Nazi Germany was still a thing, the nazis would side with whoever made it possible for them to carry out their goals.

that is such an expansive definition of Nazi that it really just renders the term meaningless

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

but the Frankfurt School openly stated that was their purpose

that they would "march through the institutions" to impose Marxism from within those insitutions

so seems like conspiracy in plain sight

Yes, but they weren't promoting "degeneracy." In fact, they saw oversexualization as a symptom of capitalism playing to the lowest common denominator. And they didn't think spreading marxism was going to give them authoritarian power over Germany. They saw marxism as a positive force that benefits everyone.

The nazi idea was/is that through the promotion of things like atheism, feminism, trans identity, homosexuality, society would crumble and somehow embrace marxism, which would lead to an authoritarian society with the marxist Jews in control. That's obviously not what the Frankfurt School was going for.