myata Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) The pictures: underwater bicycle parking, Amsterdam The numbers: Dutch MP salary: approx. 93,000 Euro. Canada MP salary: $185,800. An empirical question: in what relation can be government salaries and citizen services, in the first world? And in the third? Edited January 27, 2023 by myata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) What are you trying to imply??? MP's in a 33K sq km country vs an MP in a 9 million sq km country salary? What is the point of your posts (as in, what is the point in most of your posts)? What has a bike parking garage to do with democracy?? Do you have any idea why Amsterdam needs bicycle parking? They have more bikes than people.Bike parking is a huge issue and building it under water is not an issue since there is very little land to build it on. Besides, you dig down 1/2 meter and you are under water lol. Oh and I have been to Amsterdam and seen the bicycle problem they have. https://www.google.com/search?q=amsterdam+bicycle+problem&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=AJOqlzX_vWZaV1a0UokyyHZ9xa__RWYoSg:1674912998839&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7g82Sser8AhWVkIkEHXnUA3cQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1135&bih=618&dpr=2 Edited January 28, 2023 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted January 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: MP's in a 33K sq km country OK that line of thinking should make our MP compensations second only two Russian. And just maybe, in more than one way. Especially if we keep insisting on blindly not seeing the obvious connections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 My source claims that as of june 2022 the average salary of a dutch member of parliament was 117,700 EUR (which at today's foreign exchange rate would equal $170,000 CAD). If you were to add on the 8% holiday pay that all dutch workers get it would increase to $184,318 CAD. Not a hell of a lot of difference I'd say. https://www.amsterdamtips.com/salaries-in-amsterdam-netherlands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 hours ago, myata said: OK that line of thinking should make our MP compensations second only two Russian. And just maybe, in more than one way. Especially if we keep insisting on blindly not seeing the obvious connections. Yup, costs a lot to run a huge country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, suds said: My source claims that as of june 2022 the average salary of a dutch member of parliament was 117,700 EUR (which at today's foreign exchange rate would equal $170,000 CAD). If you were to add on the 8% holiday pay that all dutch workers get it would increase to $184,318 CAD. Not a hell of a lot of difference I'd say. https://www.amsterdamtips.com/salaries-in-amsterdam-netherlands Who cares what dutch make?? Except you who is pissed at everyone that makes more than you LOL You have a total inferiority complex about other folks wages. Work harder, become a better person, make yourself useful and make as much as them. LOl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted January 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: costs a lot to run How much "a lot"? Who decided that, and how? "A lot" with automatic annual rise approaching (soon) a salary of a significant fraction of citizens? It costs a lot to run a third world country, any dictator will tell you as much. Will we know the difference? How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: Who cares what dutch make?? Except you who is pissed at everyone that makes more than you LOL You have a total inferiority complex about other folks wages. Work harder, become a better person, make yourself useful and make as much as them. LOl I believe you have me confused with someone else. My response was to the OP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted January 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, suds said: My source claims Do we need sources in this age: Dutch parliament, FAQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted January 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Who cares what dutch make?? Any dictator will gladly sign up to that. Why do we need to care? Like what would (or could) be making us, care about such things? Edited January 28, 2023 by myata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, myata said: Any dictator will gladly sign up to that. Why do we need to care? Like what would (or could) be making us, to care about such things? Again, who cares what the dutch make... except inferiority complexed people like you. Also again, you make no sense. Off meds?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted January 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Pigs running their trough - what could go wrong? Why would they need to compare with the Dutch, what positive news could it bring them? Why, in a democracy" benefits of citizens are indexed differently from compensations of their representatives""? Answer this - clearly and intelligibly, before wriggling to stand beside the Dutch. "Because we can" Edited January 29, 2023 by myata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 You fail to see the obvious logical connection. Pigs at the trough have no reasons, no incentives to make anything like the OP (pictures). Their job, main and mostly, is to keep the place at the trough and press the dough button, diligently and regularly. "The only reason to have a party is to win the government". There, first person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/29/2023 at 3:08 AM, myata said: Pigs running their trough - what could go wrong? Why would they need to compare with the Dutch, what positive news could it bring them? Why, in a democracy" benefits of citizens are indexed differently from compensations of their representatives""? Answer this - clearly and intelligibly, before wriggling to stand beside the Dutch. "Because we can" 7 hours ago, myata said: You fail to see the obvious logical connection. Pigs at the trough have no reasons, no incentives to make anything like the OP (pictures). Their job, main and mostly, is to keep the place at the trough and press the dough button, diligently and regularly. "The only reason to have a party is to win the government". There, first person. You are seriously suffering an inferiority breakdown. Work harder, learn more and you can also make as much as others. All your complaining about how much others make is meaningless. They earn what they work for. They get paid for working, not for complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Everything is BAD. We have to do SOMETHING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: Everything is BAD. We have to do SOMETHING. No. Everything is just fine as it has been at the times of Moses. We never need to change or do anything new. A paragon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: You are seriously suffering an inferiority breakdown. Work harder, learn more and you can also make as much as others. All your complaining about how much others make is meaningless. They earn what they work for. They get paid for working, not for complaining. Uhmmm...that's not...completely true...actually. I'm approaching the end of my IT career and now, I'm paid for what I know...more than what I actually do. Meh...it is the natural evolution of a career...I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Uhmmm...that's not...completely true...actually. I'm approaching the end of my IT career and now, I'm paid for what I know...more than what I actually do. Meh...it is the natural evolution of a career...I suppose. Uhmmmmmm.....the post was not you but to the ever whining about wages Myata. Yup, as you move up the experience ladder, your knowledge is worth more than your output and your efforts are being rewarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Uhmmmmmm.....the post was not you but to the ever whining about wages Myata. Yup, as you move up the experience ladder, your knowledge is worth more than your output and your efforts are being rewarded. Wages are not...a reflection of importance...at least for many. Emergency services and nurses come to mind. But ya... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Wages are not...a reflection of importance...at least for many. Yep. That's what I tell my employer, every goddam day! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: Everything is BAD. We have to do SOMETHING. Ahhhh...the battle cry of the Progs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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