Nationalist Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rebound said: Why? If your electric utility installs dozens of windmills, which provide electricity at a cost of zero, and shut down a coal plant, how does that harm you? Here’s what I don’t understand: If you’re a nationalist, isn’t energy independence from Arab nations a plus for you? Here's what I don't understand. We had energy independence and the Democrats shat upon it. Why couldn't they make their grand transition without fcking over the existing systems and economy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Here's 2 well known scientists. Refute this. Jordan Peterson? He's a therapist and self help person with a BA. Maybe cite an actual paper or study? I don't think that you understand the problem, nor does Peterson. His pronouncements on the topic were shockingly misguided, to the point of bringing his academic credentials into question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Here's what I don't understand. We had energy independence and the Democrats shat upon it. Why couldn't they make their grand transition without fcking over the existing systems and economy? We did not have energy independence. Today, and last year, and two years ago, and ten years ago, the price you pay for gas is decided by a handful of Arab oil sheiks. That is not independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Jordan Peterson? He's a therapist and self help person with a BA. Maybe cite an actual paper or study? I don't think that you understand the problem, nor does Peterson. His pronouncements on the topic were shockingly misguided, to the point of bringing his academic credentials into question. Riiight... https://www.lomborg.com/ https://chrisvacc.medium.com/jordan-peterson-what-are-his-credentials-in-academia-393e1fb04494 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, Rebound said: We did not have energy independence. Today, and last year, and two years ago, and ten years ago, the price you pay for gas is decided by a handful of Arab oil sheiks. That is not independence. Oh horseshit. https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/gas-and-oil/the-united-states-was-energy-independent-in-2019-for-the-first-time-since-1957/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Rebound said: Why? If your electric utility installs dozens of windmills, which provide electricity at a cost of zero, and shut down a coal plant, how does that harm you? Here’s what I don’t understand: If you’re a nationalist, isn’t energy independence from Arab nations a plus for you? Windmills do not provide electricity at a cost of zero. The world is not going to end anytime soon. Some of the predictions were way off base. I don't plan on eating bugs. But I suppose governments will attack the meat industry in the same way they attack the oil and gas sector, by strangling it with taxation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 46 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Riiight... https://www.lomborg.com/ https://chrisvacc.medium.com/jordan-peterson-what-are-his-credentials-in-academia-393e1fb04494 Ok. No paper in climate science? A YouTube, a book and an article about Peterson... Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Ok. No paper in climate science? A YouTube, a book and an article about Peterson... Ok. Mike...go home. You're getting pathetic now. You asked about your peer reviewed papers, I gave you your peer reviewed papers. You questioned Peterson's credentials, I showed you his ample credentials. Now just slink off and lick your wounds. Edited January 26, 2023 by Nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 The meat substitutes have become much tastier. Meat = cruelty https://www.kinderworld.org/videos/egg-industry/baby-chicks-ground-up-alive/#:~:text=Millions of baby chicks are ground up alive,that prides itself on having better welfare conditions. We are crowding the rest of the animals off the planet. https://www.ecowatch.com/biomass-humans-animals-2571413930.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Nationalist said: Oh horseshit. https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/gas-and-oil/the-united-states-was-energy-independent-in-2019-for-the-first-time-since-1957/ Wow. The US oil industry’s opposed to alternative energy? I can’t imagine why!!! Can you figure that one out? As I said, whether the US produces more or less petroleum than we consume, US consumers remain beholden to the whims of Arab oil sheiks. THAT is not “independence.” Edited January 26, 2023 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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