PRESIDENT Trump compares Unelected Joe's classified document garage with Mar A Lago

[reason10]

Too funny. And too true.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-reacts-white-house-says-no-visitor-logs-exist-biden-delaware-home-classified-docs-found

"The White House just announced that there are no LOGS or information of any kind on visitors to the Wilmington house and flimsy, unlocked, and unsecured, but now very famous, garage. Maybe they are smarter than we think!" Trump wrote on his Truth Social account.

"This is one of seemingly many places where HIGHLY CLASSIFIED documents are stored (in a big pile on the damp floor)," he added.

Trump’s comments come about five months after the FBI executed a search and seizure at Trump's residence in Mar-a-Lago and retrieved approximately 300 documents with classified markings – some "top secret" – that the former president had not turned over to the National Archives as required by law.  

"Mar-a-Lago is a highly secured facility, with Security Cameras all over the place, and watched over by staff & our great Secret Service. I have INFO on everyone!" Trump claimed Monday. 

 

 

[robosmith]

4 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Too funny. And too true.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-reacts-white-house-says-no-visitor-logs-exist-biden-delaware-home-classified-docs-found

"The White House just announced that there are no LOGS or information of any kind on visitors to the Wilmington house and flimsy, unlocked, and unsecured, but now very famous, garage. Maybe they are smarter than we think!" Trump wrote on his Truth Social account.

"This is one of seemingly many places where HIGHLY CLASSIFIED documents are stored (in a big pile on the damp floor)," he added.

Trump’s comments come about five months after the FBI executed a search and seizure at Trump's residence in Mar-a-Lago and retrieved approximately 300 documents with classified markings – some "top secret" – that the former president had not turned over to the National Archives as required by law.  

"Mar-a-Lago is a highly secured facility, with Security Cameras all over the place, and watched over by staff & our great Secret Service. I have INFO on everyone!" Trump claimed Monday. 

 

 

Yep, plenty of security cam footage showing Trump's document storage area with the DOORS WIDE OPEN which means ANYONE COULD WALK IN. LMAO.

Meanwhile Trump LIES about Joe's garage being "unlocked."

[reason10]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Yep, plenty of security cam footage showing Trump's document storage area with the DOORS WIDE OPEN which means ANYONE COULD WALK IN. LMAO.

Meanwhile Trump LIES about Joe's garage being "unlocked."

Show us that footage. Link us to the hopefully untouched up photos. We'll wait.

Show us the OFFICIAL document storage area at Mar A Lago. Show us the wide open doors.

We'll wait.

[reason10]

[Legato]

What's laughable is the spin coming from the Whitehouse. Anything that currently comes from there is spinning so fast it creates it's own event horizon. Next spin.....cor blimey folks the documents were only in the garage so Joe could vette them.

[WestCanMan]

I wonder if Biden is going to be a next-level Al Franken.

IE, a fall guy used to give the party much-needed credibility.

The Dems really wanted to nail Trump as a womanizer but his indiscretions were far more tame than Clinton's, so the Dems punted Franken for almost touching a girl's breasts through her kevlar vest. 

The Dems and their maFBIa want Trump out of the picture more than anything, and if they throw doltin' Joe under the bus they lose nothing and they get the first female black president in the WH. Who knows, if her tenure is short enough there, and she doesn't drone-strike so many children that the MSM can't cover for her, she might be electable in 2024. 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I wonder if Biden is going to be a next-level Al Franken.

IE, a fall guy used to give the party much-needed credibility.

The Dems really wanted to nail Trump as a womanizer but his indiscretions were far more tame than Clinton's, so the Dems punted Franken for almost touching a girl's breasts through her kevlar vest. 

The Dems and their maFBIa want Trump out of the picture more than anything, and if they throw doltin' Joe under the bus they lose nothing and they get the first female black president in the WH. Who knows, if her tenure is short enough there, and she doesn't drone-strike so many children that the MSM can't cover for her, she might be electable in 2024. 

It's HILARIOUS that you believe Joe Biden had ANYTHING to do with "drone-strike children."

Have you even SEEN the video of the target before it was hit?

[ironstone]

There are reports that Hunter was paying exorbitant rent at one of Joe's homes. Paying about 50 thousand per month at a home that he may have owned at one time? Pretty confusing and convoluted.

Why Was Hunter Paying Joe Biden $50,000 in Monthly Rent for the House Where Classified Documents Were Found? (westernjournal.com)

So Hunter was the owner of a home where classified documents were found? Who visited Hunter there?

What a shell game the Biden's are running.

C'mon robosmith, tell us how all of this is much ado about nothing.?

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

It's HILARIOUS that you believe Joe Biden had ANYTHING to do with "drone-strike children."

Have you even SEEN the video of the target before it was hit?

If Biden fired the drone it would have hit Mar-a-Lago. 

Of course I know that he didn't fire the missile himself, but he lied about the success of the strike for two weeks. The topic is lying, not general worthlessness.

Seeing as you broached the topic though, the firing of the drone was the result of a constant stream of Biden's failures. By contrast, Trump's administration was proactive and ready to do what was necessary to keep Americans safe.

Biden's failures that lead to the disastrous drone strike:

1) Biden unilaterally moved the agreed-upon withdrawal date, angering the Taliban and ending their cease-fire with America

2) Biden lacked Trump's strength, and his track record of dealing with high-level terrorists, so Al Qaeda didn't feel the need to hide anymore

3) The Taliban/Al Qaeda were well aware of how disjointed the withdrawal was, how divided the coalition was becoming due to Biden's lack of communication and co-ordination with his allies, ie they sense rampant weakness and opportunity. 

4) Biden chose to give back Bagram, which was more defensible and also had a lot of terrorists locked up inside of it. 

5) Because there was so much chaos and everything was in a state of flux, and Biden wasn't keeping up on the location of the high-level targets, he had to engage in a war off attrition with the terrorists. Never a good bet.

Honest to God, you could write a series of novels just based on Biden's failings in Afghanistan that led to this disaster.

 

By contrast, Trump ran a tight ship. He didn't have his troops in danger, he had high-level targets on his radar all the time, he had the ba11s to kill those high-level targets and everyone in the world knew it.

Then when Iran killed an American contractor he took two of their generals. 

FYI that doesn't just happen. It's no fluke that Trump's presidency is defined by how many terrorist leaders he killed and how few US soldiers died. 

[Hodad]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I wonder if Biden is going to be a next-level Al Franken.

IE, a fall guy used to give the party much-needed credibility.

The Dems really wanted to nail Trump as a womanizer but his indiscretions were far more tame than Clinton's, so the Dems punted Franken for almost touching a girl's breasts through her kevlar vest. 

The Dems and their maFBIa want Trump out of the picture more than anything, and if they throw doltin' Joe under the bus they lose nothing and they get the first female black president in the WH. Who knows, if her tenure is short enough there, and she doesn't drone-strike so many children that the MSM can't cover for her, she might be electable in 2024. 

Again, I think you are being completely disengenuous. I don't think you particularly care about civilians killed in drone strikes. If you did, you wouldn't be able to support Trump, who tripled the rate of drone strikes relative and implemented opacity to stop reporting the outcomes, but with incredibly high civilian death counts reported from other sources. Biden, on the other hand, imposed stricter standards and dramatically scaled back drone strikes worldwide. 

Yes, that disastrous drone strike during the Afghanistan withdrawal was awful and tragic on every level, and should be remembered as such. But it's grossly dishonest for you to throw stones at Biden when your god-emperor lives in a glass mega mansion. Have some intellectual and moral integrity. 

Reason.com

"During the length of Trump's four-year presidency, Airwars documented more than 16,000 air and artillery military strikes in Iraq and Syria... During Biden's first year, there have been 39 total military strikes spread between both countries."

"Alleged civilian deaths in Iraq and Syria skyrocketed under Trump's four years in office to more than 13,000 compared to 5,600 during Obama's second term. Thus far, Airwars reports only 10 under the Biden administration."

[WestCanMan]

54 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Again, I think you are being completely disengenuous. I don't think you particularly care about civilians killed in drone strikes. If you did, you wouldn't be able to support Trump, who tripled the rate of drone strikes relative and implemented opacity to stop reporting the outcomes, but with incredibly high civilian death counts reported from other sources. Biden, on the other hand, imposed stricter standards and dramatically scaled back drone strikes worldwide. 

Yes, that disastrous drone strike during the Afghanistan withdrawal was awful and tragic on every level, and should be remembered as such. But it's grossly dishonest for you to throw stones at Biden when your god-emperor lives in a glass mega mansion. Have some intellectual and moral integrity. 

Biden lied about it. That's the thing.

Why are you so interested in talking about it without acknowledging the length and breadth of Biden's lie?

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Reason.com

"During the length of Trump's four-year presidency, Airwars documented more than 16,000 air and artillery military strikes in Iraq and Syria... During Biden's first year, there have been 39 total military strikes spread between both countries."

"Alleged civilian deaths in Iraq and Syria skyrocketed under Trump's four years in office to more than 13,000 compared to 5,600 during Obama's second term. Thus far, Airwars reports only 10 under the Biden administration."

Geez, it's almost like there was a war or something going on when Trump became Prez.

Did he start it or inherit that war? How did it go?

Was there still a war when Biden became prez? 

I eagerly await your non-answers...

And you talk about me being disingenuous ?

[West]

Sounds like the secret service is ready to spill the beans on who had access to the classified info

[Hodad]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Biden lied about it. That's the thing.

Why are you so interested in talking about it without acknowledging the length and breadth of Biden's lie?

Geez, it's almost like there was a war or something going on when Trump became Prez.

Did he start it or inherit that war? How did it go?

Was there still a war when Biden became prez? 

I eagerly await your non-answers...

And you talk about me being disingenuous ?

Yes, you are wildly disingenuous and profoundly dishonest. If the "lying" were "the thing" you wouldn't nance around clutching your pearls like Biden is some kind of warmongering murderbot targeting children. His record is orders of magnitude better than the guy you're applauding. If lying is "the thing" it's because you're doing the lying.

Trump inherited a war. Did he withdraw as promised or did he escalate the cost in blood and treasure?

Biden inherited a war. Did he withdraw as promised or did he escalate?

And frankly you have no idea if Biden lied or not. We know the pentagon gave incorrect information, but we don't have any idea if/when they corrected it or how Biden responded. 

[WestCanMan]

25 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Yes, you are wildly disingenuous and profoundly dishonest. If the "lying" were "the thing" you wouldn't nance around clutching your pearls like Biden is some kind of warmongering murderbot targeting children. His record is orders of magnitude better than the guy you're applauding. If lying is "the thing" it's because you're doing the lying.

OMG, you're getting busted for lying left and right, then you turn around and accuse me although I just hoisted you on your own petard.

I never said Biden murdered children, I said that children were murdered and he pretended that the strike killed terrorists for two weeks. That's a fact. Stop throwing down straw man arguments to dance around it you g-d liar.

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Trump inherited a war.

Exactly. So don't pretend he was just sitting around drinking and droning ffs. Liar.

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Did he withdraw as promised or did he escalate the cost in blood and treasure?

He never backed down on his date, he just wasn't prez anymore when Biden botched it all.

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Biden inherited a war. Did he withdraw as promised or did he escalate?

Wrong. Lying again I see. No shocker.

Biden inherited an 18-month ceasefire with a set withdrawal date.

Yes, he absolutely escalated when he unilaterally switched the withdrawal date. 

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And frankly you have no idea if Biden lied or not. We know the pentagon gave incorrect information, but we don't have any idea if/when they corrected it or how Biden responded. 

Of course that's a Biden lie. 

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 "We struck ISIS-K remotely, days after they murdered 13 of our service members and dozens of innocent Afghans. And to ISIS-K: We are not done with you yet," Mr Biden said.

Does the K stand for "Kids"? 

If not, he was lying, and that lie stood for two weeks. 

[Hodad]

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG, you're getting busted for lying left and right, then you turn around and accuse me although I just hoisted you on your own petard.

I never said Biden murdered children, I said that children were murdered and he pretended that the strike killed terrorists for two weeks. That's a fact. Stop throwing down straw man arguments to dance around it you g-d liar.

Busted? WTF are you talking about? -- Do you not know the meaning of the word "murder"? Is basic English the problem here? Murder means it was deliberate. Murdering children means one set out to kill those children. You are welcome to revise your statements, but as it stands you said what you said. Your ignorance doesn't make me a liar.

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Exactly. So don't pretend he was just sitting around drinking and droning ffs. Liar.

He was under no obligation to further prosecute that war. He could have started a planned and organized withdrawal on day 1. Instead he chose to ramp up the strikes. That is what escalation means. 

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Biden inherited an 18-month ceasefire with a set withdrawal date.

That's pure crap. The taliban never observed the ceasefire. They were still engaged in military operations. The war raged on. And Trump had no practical plan for a feasible withdrawal. His initial order was for an immediate withdrawal, FFS. As with so much else,the grownups had to come along behind him and clean up the mess.

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Yes, he absolutely escalated when he unilaterally switched the withdrawal date. 

 

?Yes, withdrawing slightly more slowly now means "escalating." Clearly words are not your thing. 

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If not, he was lying, and that lie stood for two weeks. 

Again, basic English may be the problem. Lying means that it's deliberately falsehood. There is almost zero chance that Biden "lied" about the drone strike initially. If he knew that they had struck civilians he likely would have either addressed the tragedy, or more likely said nothing at all. He wouldn't have gone around drawing attention to the mistake if he had known it at the time. When he learned is an open question, but probably when he stopped touting its success.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Busted? WTF are you talking about? -- Do you not know the meaning of the word "murder"? Is basic English the problem here? Murder means it was deliberate. Murdering children means one set out to kill those children. You are welcome to revise your statements, but as it stands you said what you said. Your ignorance doesn't make me a liar.

Stop with the semantics already.

Criminal negligence causing death is what...?

You're a liar because you tried to make my point into something it never was... I never said Biden pushed the button - I said he lied about who was killed.

Now you're ignorant and a liar. 

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He was under no obligation to further prosecute that war. He could have started a planned and organized withdrawal on day 1. Instead he chose to ramp up the strikes. That is what escalation means. 

That's your ignorance talking again. 

When you're in a war you can't just end it on day 1, or pull a stunt like Obama did in Iraq, leaving a power vacuum. 

Trump did an excellent job of keeping Americans alive and ending that war. Biden botched it. 

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That's pure crap. The taliban never observed the ceasefire. They were still engaged in military operations. The war raged on. And Trump had no practical plan for a feasible withdrawal. His initial order was for an immediatewithdrawal, FFS. As with so much else,the grownups had to come along behind him and clean up the mess.

The talis hadn't killed an American in 18 months.

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?Yes, withdrawing slightly more slowly now means "escalating." Clearly words are not your thing. 

Biden unilaterally changed the date because he's a dolt.

He doesn't understand how the net effect of Trump's 4-year term put the Taliban leadership in a position where they felt like negotiating was beneficial to them personally.

Biden just went in and pissed them off. 

When Biden came in and disrespected them, said "I'm the man and this is what's happening", that absolutely was an "escalation".

Your interpretation doesn't matter, it's the talis' interpretation that counts. We know how they felt. 

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Again, basic English may be the problem. Lying means that it's deliberately falsehood. 

And by the end of day 1 Biden knew who was killed in that drone strike. It didn't take him 2 weeks to find out. 

He was lying for 12-13 days. 

[Hodad]

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Stop with the semantics already.

Criminal negligence causing death is what...?

You're a liar because you tried to make my point into something it never was... I never said Biden pushed the button - I said he lied about who was killed.

You are utterly shameless. If you weren't trying to make a point of Biden "murdering" children you wouldn't have posted about it half a dozen times. Suddenly pretending like you didn't do it doesn't make those posts go away. Jeebus.

And the answer your weird question is that it's called criminal negligence. 

 

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When you're in a war you can't just end it on day 1, or pull a stunt like Obama did in Iraq, leaving a power vacuum. 

I didn't suggest that he "just end it." I suggested that he could have initiated an orderly withdrawal on day 1, if he weren't interested in prosecuting the war. Before he was president Trump said we should just get out of Afghanistan, but after he had the job he escalated the war. Instead of leaving, he sent more troops into harm's way and tripled the drone strike activity, killing thousands of civilians and costing hundreds of billions of dollars. That's an elective escalation, which got us NOTHING in return. He didn't win the war. And he waited until after he lost the election to order an immediate withdrawal-- which was only slowed by his caretakers. It was a poison pill, playing games with American lives for the sake of scoring political points. I'm not surprised that you approve. Anything for a "win" eh?

I've already acknowledged that Biden could have managed the withdrawal better in multiple ways, but let's not farking rewrite history to show that Trump achieved an honorable peace in Afghanistan. He simply put the terrorists back in power.