There is no White privilege. Prove otherwise

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, reason10 said:

Excuse me, but the very government that created and legislated the Jim Crow laws HAS BEEN DEAD FOR OVER A CENTURY.

Earth to child:

EVERY SLAVE IS DEAD.

EVERY SLAVE TRADER IS DEAD.

The victims and the perpetrators are both DEAD.

NOBODY alive today bears any responsibility for what happened back then.

And all you have to do to prove otherwise is FIND THE LAW IN THE U.S. CODE that gives white people an advantage over black people.

Find the law or admit you are wrong and do not know what you are talking about.

^Totally WRONG. The US Federal government NEVER DIED (despite Trump's effort to kill it). It has been operating CONTINUOUSLY for over 200 years and sanctioned slavery for ~1/5th of that time.

I'll admit that YOU have no idea what you're talking about. And that you believe you are far more clever than anything you've written here justifies.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You have failed to demonstrate any unfairness. Certainly, you've failed to demonstrate that this 'unfairness' is responsible for poor black economic performance as compared to superior asian economic performance. The reason for that is that Asians get married, their kids are raised in two-parent families, and those parents place heavy emphasis on their children's' schooling. Black kids are mostly raised in single parent families with absentee fathers. 

You'll no-doubt say that's the fault of white society but as per Thomas Sowell discussed earlier the Black family unit was intact through to the civil rights era, and violence and crime was low in the black community. What happened then? You can't blame slavery. 

YOU have NO BASIS with which to MERELY dismiss the effects of centuries of brutal treatment of slavery's legacy and the perpetuation of that injustice (with less brutality) via Jim Crow.

Asians were NEVER treated nearly as brutally as black slaves, nor were their families RIPPED APART.

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Societies differ in every way based on their cultures, behaviour and characteristics. You cannot expect them to perform similarly in every category. Ascribing lower performance to some kind of unfairness without even being able to point at it is a pointless (pardon the pun) exercise. 

Lastly, pretending you're somehow more courageous or have more empathy, that those you disagree with lack integrity for disagreeing with a baseless theory is just so bloody typical of the progressive left. Every discussion with you guys ultimately revolves around how noble you are and how nasty those who disagree with you are. It's tiresome and stupid.

It is "so bloody typical" of conservative right to believe they are experts in any field and their conclusions are informed WHEN THEY ARE IGNORANT of all the factors.

It's that ARROGANCE which is "tiresome and stupid."

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

How many decades do white people have to work to rectify this supposed burden? How many hundreds of billions of dollars have already been spent trying to do so through various affirmative action, social welfare, grants, loans and spending programs since the 1960s? The UK spent 5% of its GDP per year compensating freed negros and working at freeing others and what credit do they get for it today? None whatsoever.

This is, as John McWhorter says, a religious crusade which tries to affix original sin to everyone who has a white skin. And the only way to temporarily ease the guilt is through continuous prayer and good works - or in this case constantly chanting about your white privilege and racism. But there is, of course, no way to permanently remove it.

Despite the fact every people on Earth engaged in slavery throughout all the history of time, including Africans well before Europeans showed up, and including the indigenous people in North and South America. All over the world there are societies which had slavery for centuries, sometimes eons. None feels any particular guilt over it except a few anglosphere countries influenced by the shallow thinking of the progressive American academic and media communities.

I didn't say anything about "white skin," I said the US government which sanctioned legal slavery and strongly benefitted from it.

Today, that government is funded by ALL races who live here, so any reparations are not paid by "white skin" alone.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Did it? I keep coming up against the fact that Black economic progress was moving steadily closer to that of whites until the civil rights era opened up those jobs you speak of and the black family unit collapsed.

You got ANY evidence for ^this claim? AFAIK, blacks have continued to progress economically, primarily due to affirmative action.

[Rebound]

9 hours ago, reason10 said:

You apparently don't know how to read. I didn't ask if there was racism in America or even institutional racism. As long a there are Democrats there will be racism. I asked what LAW on the books gives Caucasian Americans more rights than blacks. And to bring you up to speed, laws are not sorted on the US Code in YouTube form.

You said there is no White Privilege. There is, and it is the result of racism. 

[Rebound]

9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

The examples you chose are not racism. I realize people use that word to describe virtually any sort of discriminatory behavior or different outcome among whites and blacks but that's out of sheer ignorance. 

Racism is literally the belief in the superiority of one race over another. Virtually no one but a few cranks believes in that in the Western world. The examples you provided are not of racism but prejudice. Prejudice literally means to pre-judge an individual based on the observed, proven or believed characteristics/traits of the group that person is a member of.

This is why young black men get stopped and searched far more than young White or Asian men. This is why black women get followed around in stores by clerks while Asians and whites generally are not. People are basing their suspicions on the group characteristics they know about. I.e., blacks committing far more violence or shoplifting than other groups.

If it were Asians who were known to commit more violence they'd be the ones being stopped and searched. They'd be the ones drawing suspicion when they drove around or entered a store.

People should be aware of prejudice and fight it in their behaviour. Of course, if you're the owner of an expensive leather shop in Manhattan, and 1% of your customers are black while you know from police statistics and your own experience that 80% of those who steal your goods are Black, well, it's hard to push back against prejudice. Prejudice is why black taxi drivers prefer not to pick up black customers. Also because black people don't tip as well as white people (generally). 

You can't lecture people about racism and get any traction against prejudice.  Because it isn't racism causing discrimination, it is the perceived behaviour of the group which is causing it. Really, to change prejudice you need to change the behaviour. Or at least, as an individual, do your best to stand out from the group.

Oh, well, gosh, thanks for clearing that up!

The next time a racist cop kills a black man for no reason, I’ll feel a hell of a lot better knowing it was only because the cop was prejudiced.  Phew! They makes all just fine. Except that there’s no difference.  

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, robosmith said:

^Totally WRONG. The US Federal government NEVER DIED (despite Trump's effort to kill it). It has been operating CONTINUOUSLY for over 200 years and sanctioned slavery for ~1/5th of that time.

I'll admit that YOU have no idea what you're talking about. And that you believe you are far more clever than anything you've written here justifies.

"Orangemanbad!

You dummy!"

Giggle...the intellect of a plank...

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, Rebound said:

Oh, well, gosh, thanks for clearing that up!

The next time a racist cop kills a black man for no reason, I’ll feel a hell of a lot better knowing it was only because the cop was prejudiced.  Phew! They makes all just fine. Except that there’s no difference.  

Sure there is.

Tell me...we all have seen the gangs break into stores and rob them. What skin color do they have?

All the street fights. Guns blazing in public settings. What color are those doing that?

Attacking Asians in public, beating people senseless with baseball bats in broad daylight, pushing people in front of oncoming trains...what skin color do these perpetrators have?

[reason10]

13 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Why do you assume that white privilege depends on laws that specifically give whites advantages over blacks? 

Probably because your RACIST DEMOCRAT PARTY passing the Jim Crow laws was precisely for that purpose. Freed slaves formed communities, sent their kids to schools, worked real jobs and were an economic force. Jim Crow Laws FROM YOUR RACIST SIDE OF THE AISLE were put in place as a response to the threat of that market competition.

Those laws have been repealed. Today it is ILLEGAL to discriminate against a person based on race and color. Yes, there is STILL discrimination and there always will be racism so long as there is a Democrat Party. But today, NO law prevents a black family from moving into a neighborhood it wants. NO law prevents a black man from applying for a job he's qualified for.  NO law mandates that blacks have to eat at separate lunch counters and use separate public water fountains. THAT was white privilege.

If blacks are poor, educated in inferior schools, suffering from crime and drugs in ghetto neighborhoods, you can blame the DEMOCRATS for putting them there, with the racist Lyndon Johnson welfare state. That doesn't rise to the level of white privilege. It just means the Democrats aren't finished with dey nigras picking cotton, (in this case, votes.)

And blacks are slowly walking away from that mentality.

[reason10]

 

10 hours ago, Rebound said:

Oh, well, gosh, thanks for clearing that up!

The next time a racist cop kills a black man for no reason, I’ll feel a hell of a lot better knowing it was only because the cop was prejudiced.  Phew! They makes all just fine. Except that there’s no difference.  

You need to share with us the INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM that mandates a white police officer to pick an innocent black man who is committing no crime and just kill him. For that matter, you need to show an actual instance where a racist white cop (and these generally happen in blue states) just pick at random a law abiding black minding his own business and execute him. We'll wait while you bring the proof.

You also need to show INSTITUTIONALIZED BLACK EXECUTION RULES that mandate only white cops are permitted to kill innocent black men.

Oh, by the way, the evidence out there is  completely OPPOSITE to your lies.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler
 

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1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black.

2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to Mac Donald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.

The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths.

 

This is what EDUCATED people do. We look for the truth. We don't just sit on a lie that THE VIEW vomits on a daily basis.

[Rebound]

57 minutes ago, reason10 said:

 

You need to share with us the INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM that mandates a white police officer to pick an innocent black man who is committing no crime and just kill him. For that matter, you need to show an actual instance where a racist white cop (and these generally happen in blue states) just pick at random a law abiding black minding his own business and execute him. We'll wait while you bring the proof.

You also need to show INSTITUTIONALIZED BLACK EXECUTION RULES that mandate only white cops are permitted to kill innocent black men.

Oh, by the way, the evidence out there is  completely OPPOSITE to your lies.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler
 

This is what EDUCATED people do. We look for the truth. We don't just sit on a lie that THE VIEW vomits on a daily basis.

You look for the truth you want to hear.  but that is not research. 

I studied data analytics and demographics at the graduate level and a major university and I know how to sort through data. I got into the field long ago, hoping we could find the truth behind people’s opinions. But sadly, we wound up with people twisting data into lies. 

[reason10]

9 minutes ago, Rebound said:

You look for the truth you want to hear.  but that is not research. 

I studied data analytics and demographics at the graduate level and a major university and I know how to sort through data. I got into the field long ago, hoping we could find the truth behind people’s opinions. But sadly, we wound up with people twisting data into lies. 

So far, you have behaved like a 8 year old who is trying to tell his third grade teacher that the dog ate his homework. You haven't shown any actual data from any reliable source. That's all I'VE done. And I haven't asked for any research. Hell, most of the libs here probably can't even SPELL the word "research."

And apparently the diploma mill that socially promoted you (after getting their share of your student loan money) never taught you how to do an online search, where there is plenty of documentation.

I asked for PROOF that EVEN ONE RACIST WHITE COP picked out EVEN ONE INNOCENT BLACK MAN and killed him on the street. Hell, with all the fake news rags on the internet (CNN, PMSNBC, THE VIEW, WAPO) it would seem like you could find even ONE instance of that happening. So far, you have  provided ZERO evidence, but somehow the dog ate your homework.

(And yes, I've actually been given that excuse for no homework in some middle school classes I've subbed at, so it's not just an urban legend. Some kids are just not motivated to do their work. And it's in every state, although not so much in Florida. )

Edited December 16, 2022 by reason10

[CrakHoBarbie]

1 hour ago, reason10 said:

Probably because  

Your a racist old white fool who spews hate all day long on a site that doesn't moderate his racist garbage. 

[reason10]

3 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Your a racist old white fool who spews hate all day long on a site that doesn't moderate his racist garbage. 

 I have NEVER uttered a SINGLE racist phrase and you cannot find ANY quotes of mine coming even close to racism.

 

(Oh, and EARTH TO UNEDUCATED CHILD, racism means a bias against a person based soley on race. It doesn't mean disagreeing with a stupid uneducated left winger.)

[Rebound]

27 minutes ago, reason10 said:

So far, you have behaved like a 8 year old who is trying to tell his third grade teacher that the dog ate his homework. You haven't shown any actual data from any reliable source. That's all I'VE done. And I haven't asked for any research. Hell, most of the libs here probably can't even SPELL the word "research."

And apparently the diploma mill that socially promoted you (after getting their share of your student loan money) never taught you how to do an online search, where there is plenty of documentation.

I asked for PROOF that EVEN ONE RACIST WHITE COP picked out EVEN ONE INNOCENT BLACK MAN and killed him on the street. Hell, with all the fake news rags on the internet (CNN, PMSNBC, THE VIEW, WAPO) it would seem like you could find even ONE instance of that happening. So far, you have  provided ZERO evidence, but somehow the dog ate your homework.

(And yes, I've actually been given that excuse for no homework in some middle school classes I've subbed at, so it's not just an urban legend. Some kids are just not motivated to do their work. And it's in every state, although not so much in Florida. )

I get your bullishly. You want to twist things into very specific questions, like claiming that racism cannot be institutional if no law establishes it.
 

So I’ll play your stupid game; it’s easy: Every single black man ever killed by a police officer was, legally, innocent.   Therefore, every single black person killed on a street by a white police officer meets your criteria.  Whether the cop was racist or not is unprovable and therefore, irrelevant in answering your question. 
 

[I am Groot]

12 hours ago, Rebound said:

Oh, well, gosh, thanks for clearing that up!

The next time a racist cop kills a black man for no reason, I’ll feel a hell of a lot better knowing it was only because the cop was prejudiced.  Phew! They makes all just fine. Except that there’s no difference.  

Well, to begin with, I could point out the difference but that would seem a pointless exercise as I already did. The means of addressing one is not the same as addressing the other. If you were actually interested in doing anything about it as opposed to virtue signaling about how morally superior you are this would matter to you.

Second, police rarely kill a black man for no reason. In almost every case the reason is the Black man is a criminal, refusing lawful orders, and in most cases doing so violently.

[I am Groot]

14 hours ago, robosmith said:

You got ANY evidence for ^this claim? AFAIK, blacks have continued to progress economically, primarily due to affirmative action.

Despite the grand myth that black economic progress began or accelerated with the passage of the Civil Rights laws and "war on poverty' programs of the 1960s the fact is that the poverty rate among blacks fell from 87 percent in 1940 to 47 percent in 1960. Over the next 20 years, the poverty rate among blacks fell another 18 percentage points. This was the continuation of a previous economic trend, but at a slower rate of progress. It was not some economic grand deliverance. A Legacy of Liberalism Thomas Sowell

 

Edited December 16, 2022 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

14 hours ago, robosmith said:

YOU have NO BASIS with which to MERELY dismiss the effects of centuries of brutal treatment of slavery's legacy and the perpetuation of that injustice (with less brutality) via Jim Crow.

Sure I do. Slavery was a universal system. Just because you only ever hear about the slavery in the US because your information all comes from American TV doesn't mean it wasn't omnipresent all across the globe. You think Black Americans are the only people who are the descendants of slaves? They're not. They're just the only ones still blaming slavery for all their social and economic failures. 

14 hours ago, robosmith said:

Asians were NEVER treated nearly as brutally as black slaves, nor were their families RIPPED APART.

LOL. Asians have been treated brutally for a thousand years, mostly by their own rulers. Read up a bit on the history of China or Japan, or India for that matter, and you'll see what real brutality was like. Even where people weren't slaves they were peasants, and the difference between a peasant and a slave was often indiscernible. 

14 hours ago, robosmith said:

It is "so bloody typical" of conservative right to believe they are experts in any field and their conclusions are informed WHEN THEY ARE IGNORANT of all the factors.

It's that ARROGANCE which is "tiresome and stupid."

Well, maybe if you keep capitalizing words that will impress us so much we'll be convinced of the intelligence of your arguments. 

[I am Groot]

16 hours ago, Hodad said:

Seriously? I have to "prove" that Black Americans have been and continue to be treated unfairly? That's really an open question for you? 

Individual acts of discrimination do not suggest black social and economic failure is due to 'unfairness' as opposed to the predictable outcome of their own culture.

16 hours ago, Hodad said:

I've linked to multiple studies in this thread- among hundreds on the subject -but those will be hand-waved away, I'm sure

Indeed. I can easily hand wave them away since you have linked to exactly ZERO studies in this topic.

 

16 hours ago, Hodad said:

 Willful ignorance? At any rate, it rather neatly proves my point about empathy. It's downright sociopathic to stand in the midst of a throng crying- and crying out -about mistreatment and not take that shared experience even a little to heart.

Here's a suggestion. Perhaps it's not so much a lack of empathy as that we're way smarter than you are? Just consider it for a few moments. Or perhaps it's that we're less bigoted than you are? We feel people should be responsible for their own actions. And, unlike you, we aren't willing to simply smile benignly at the poor, silly little black people and pat them on the heads whenever they commit rape or murder or give them a hug as they drop out of school to sell drugs, and tell them it's not their fault they can't get a good job just because they can't read or write very well and tend to use the F word in every sentence and dress like a gangster ready to cut someone's throat if they look sideways at them.

16 hours ago, Hodad said:

I'd place a bet that you could name literally any aspect of society, from access to jobs, housing, food, education, justice--whatever--and it'll take about 30 seconds to find the studies identifying the systemic racism at work. Wanna play that game? Try a few for yourself.

Oh, I'm sure you're right. Systemic racism is the new buzzword and the left wing academics love it! It's trotted out whenever there is any statistical basis for showing blacks perform less well in any endeavor than whites. Blacks don't get into universities as often as whites? Why, that's systemic racism! We have to change the rules and lower the requirements in order to offset this terrible systemic racism!

I mean, it couldn't be because too many black kids quit school without a graduating, or don't study much at all and wind up with diplomas with words they can barely read, could it? Meanwhile, Asian kids are in school every day, then studying and doing homework every evening while mom and dad supervise. 

But no, it's gotta be "systemic racism"! The magic get-out-of-jail card (Iiterally in some cases) that exempts people from the results of their own actions.

You know which blacks do well? The ones who finish high school and then get married before having kids.

[CrakHoBarbie]

1 hour ago, reason10 said:

 I have NEVER uttered a SINGLE racist phrase and you cannot find ANY quotes of mine coming even close to racism.

 

 

What? You have called Mexican immigrants "animals" you f__king piece of shite. Gfy

Edited December 16, 2022 by CrakHoBarbie

[CrakHoBarbie]

2 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I can easily hand wave them away since you have linked to exactly ZERO studies in this topic.

 

 

Your moronic anecdotal suppositions have been noted. I have posted multiple peer reviewed articles below that prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that white privilege does exist.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4157125/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjo-Zm3uP77AhUJEEQIHSjuCmMQFnoECAYQAg&usg=AOvVaw38H7acU-TFIRW-EEpW9GLS

 

 

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25014267/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjo-Zm3uP77AhUJEEQIHSjuCmMQFnoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw0hchMfDgbGLOAKXvVt9HUH

 

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277953614003359&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjo-Zm3uP77AhUJEEQIHSjuCmMQFnoECAQQAg&usg=AOvVaw3GzIEqTw1yteNgw-2a8KKJ

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.american.edu/ocl/counseling/upload/understanding-white-privilege.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjo-Zm3uP77AhUJEEQIHSjuCmMQFnoECAMQAg&usg=AOvVaw0ooyRhrfM1D-rjbnfmPYlf

 

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/2332649218811882&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjo-Zm3uP77AhUJEEQIHSjuCmMQFnoECAcQAg&usg=AOvVaw0EVHOjwO8IQanYZUGXhK5u

[I am Groot]

14 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Your moronic anecdotal suppositions have been noted. I

Really? Because I didn't relate any anecdotes. Perhaps you just don't know what an anecdote is. Just like you don't know what evidence is. Certainly you don't seem to understand the difference between causal and correlational. 

Giving me google searches of hysterical people blaming 'systemic racism' for every statistical difference between whites and blacks is thoroughly unconvincing. Especially when three of the five are the same paper, which, like the other two assumes that 'white privilege' is a thing and then purports to tell us the impact on black healthcare etc of this white privilege.

An actual, valid study would not make the assumption that white privilege exists. Making that assumption right from the start demonstrates the ideological influences on the academics making the claims below it and invalidates anything they might have to say.

Mind you, academia is so filled with blustering ideological zealots these days, especially in the humanities, that nothing they say on the subject can be trusted anyway.

You know what IS convincing? All the Black people trying desperately to come and live in Canada or the US vs NO Black people deciding these are terrible places and they want to leave.

 

 

Edited December 16, 2022 by I am Groot

[CrakHoBarbie]

10 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

 you don't know what evidence is. 

 

 

I posted multiple peer reviewed articles that trump your assumptions and suppositions. I guess your too stupid to realize that the empirical evidence posted proves that white privilege does indeed exist. Poor you.

[I am Groot]

18 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

"Nobody on the left has an answer as to why Asians do better than everyone else in many respects. Just silence and a blank stare." from Page 1 of this very thread ?

That seems to be arguing exactly that.  Suggesting it at the very least.

The statement you made was  The logic seems to be "if people do well financially then racism doesn't exist"

I see nothing to link the statement you quote with the one you made. Asian economic success does need to be explained before anyone can say that 'White privilege' is why Blacks don't do as well as Whites. That doesn't even begin to suggest racism doesn't exist. Only that non-whites are perfectly capable of thriving in this society, even exceeding the success of Whites.

[Hodad]

3 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Individual acts of discrimination do not suggest black social and economic failure is due to 'unfairness' as opposed to the predictable outcome of their own culture.

Sure, there's not a systemic problem. Just millions of individual acts of discrimination. No big deal! lol

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Indeed. I can easily hand wave them away since you have linked to exactly ZERO studies in this topic.

 

Ah, I see that you are as honest as you are informed.

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Here's a suggestion. Perhaps it's not so much a lack of empathy as that we're way smarter than you are? Just consider it for a few moments. Or perhaps it's that we're less bigoted than you are? We feel people should be responsible for their own actions. And, unlike you, we aren't willing to simply smile benignly at the poor, silly little black people and pat them on the heads whenever they commit rape or murder or give them a hug as they drop out of school to sell drugs, and tell them it's not their fault they can't get a good job just because they can't read or write very well and tend to use the F word in every sentence and dress like a gangster ready to cut someone's throat if they look sideways at them.

I thought about it for a moment before the giggles overcame me. No, I think it comes down to a self-interested a lack of empathy. You can listen to Black Americans, you can look at the data, and happily dismiss both the qualitative and quantitative evidence of unfairness. Most of you simply aren't interested in fairness or a level playing field, and view the erosion of privilege as an attack.

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Oh, I'm sure you're right. Systemic racism is the new buzzword and the left wing academics love it! It's trotted out whenever there is any statistical basis for showing blacks perform less well in any endeavor than whites. Blacks don't get into universities as often as whites? Why, that's systemic racism! We have to change the rules and lower the requirements in order to offset this terrible systemic racism!

You seriously think systemic racism is a new buzzword? Jeebus, you're either VERY young or willfully ignorant on the subject. It's been a hot topic since at least the 70s and has been a primary lens through which researchers and academics have evaluated racism for decades. 

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I mean, it couldn't be because too many black kids quit school without a graduating, or don't study much at all and wind up with diplomas with words they can barely read, could it? Meanwhile, Asian kids are in school every day, then studying and doing homework every evening while mom and dad supervise. 

 

I used to do guest lectures at a magnet school in South Central LA. Best school in the area by a longshot, best and brightest kids from the most proactive families who fight for spots--nearly all Black. Nothing wrong with the kids aside from an oppressive cycle of poverty. And still, even in this best case scenario, I'd show up in a classroom and find kids standing against a back wall. They didn't have enough desks or books, so they had to take turns. It's farked up. I can't imagine what conditions were like in the "bad" schools in the area.

Sure, let's set up a model in which schools are funded by local taxes, then disproportionately exclude Blacks from better jobs and neighborhoods, locking kids into poorly funded, poor-performing schools and then complain that kids want to leave those schools early.  You are chock full of empathy!

And you know what happens when Black families do accumulate enough wealth to start moving into neighborhoods with better schools? The White people flee and take their tax dollars with them. The whole thing is a very ugly cycle, and it simply isn't going to fix itself. 

Have a really lovely time patting yourself on the back for your "enlightened" disinterest in all that tacky color conscious policymaking. It's not your problem after all. Let future generations of Black children chip away at it on their own.