85.7% of Covid Deaths in Canada Were Among the Multi-Vaxed from Aug to Sept of 2022. Jabbing 85% of the Population Didn't Reduce Deaths

[CdnFox]

20 minutes ago, Venandi said:

The amount of contained SV40 (in the vaccine) and its binding effects on P53 seems to be in question now,  the video imbedded here is interesting. 

It's the downstream effects that are worthy of consideration IMO. At present, most of the  denial revolves around current (observable) harm, which is bad enough BTW, but it seems very few have their eye on the horizon. 

The fact that I know 3 people with biology degrees who now deeply regret having gotten vaccinated is a bit concerning as well... two were for job retention and one was for travel related purposes (caring for elderly parents). 

Who knows, I certainly don't... but it's noteworthy that the reason I balked at the vaccine was simply because of ill informed ridicule that was contained in the rhetoric of the day. Seeing the madness surrounding Ivermectin removed all doubt for me and it was also a (WTF) turning point for the people I mentioned above as well.

 

Yeah - i was in an 'at risk' group so for me the shots seemed worth the risk but i never doubted that they were severely downplaying the potential harm, especially with something as radical and untested as mNRA technology. I mean - the stuff holds a lot of promise but it's still a brand new concept.

And it made me wonder WHY the gov't and others were being so psychotic to get to 100 percent vaccination. Why they wanted to punish and hurt anyone who didn't comply.  It's not rational. Any sane person knew we didn't need anywhere near 100 percent.  ANd we've always respected people's right to choose in the past, even when gov'ts got pushy about vaccines.

 

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As an aside, I would consider the trolls here to be nothing more than "keyboard warrior static" that you have to talk around, otherwise you'll likely find yourself in need of more breaks.

By their own admission, they're doing it on purpose:

Ain't it fun to wind up canfux and westconman??? LOL

Both are obsessed conspiracy addicted fools. There are a few others too and pissing them off is more fun than....well...there ain't anything more fun than pissing them off

 

 LOL - don't let them kid you   That's just what they tell themselves to try to feel better when we make them cry  

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3 hours ago, Goddess said:

The excavator story has long been debunked.

Really, you mean they faked that too?

And you still figure it was just a mere handful of psyop technicians that pulled all this off?

If they're that good at their job they probably should be running the world 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Really, you mean they faked that too?

 

I don't think there was any 'fake' -  i think a newsperson thought it would get clicks and put it out there.

The real question is - why do people like you fall for that stuff so easily without looking into it?

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I don't think there was any 'fake' -  i think a newsperson thought it would get clicks and put it out there.

Yeah well that's what usually happens to newsworthy things.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The real question is - why do people like you fall for that stuff so easily without looking into it?

You found something when you looked into it way back when it was happening? Fu ck off.

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yeah well that's what usually happens to newsworthy things.

Fewer than you'd think. And as this case proves if there's nothing newsworthy they'll just make some shit up and pretend it's news and you'll lap it up  

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You found something when you looked into it way back when it was happening? Fu ck off.

 

I wasn't stupid enough to believe it in the first place   I don't expect you to be THAT smart, but you COULD at least look shit up rather than just believe it hook line and sinker.

 

[ExFlyer]

13 hours ago, Goddess said:

Ya, you've been spouting this as a talking point lately, but we already talked about this many times over the covid years.

In fact, IT WAS ME who brought it up, that vaccines have side effects and I used that point to argue why people should not be forced.

I should be able to reject any injection that has DEATH as a side effect.

No spouting, just quoting with links. LOL

You are the one that spouts on and on and on LOL

All drugs can cause death...get real LOL

[Goddess]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

All drugs can cause death...get real LOL

You have a remarkable eye for the obvious.

It's about risk/benefit analysis.

In my traveling years, I took a few vax or meds for diseases common to the countries I was travelling to. The side effect risks were lower compared to my chances of contracting the illness, so it was worth it for me.

The mRNA shots - not so much. Early on, even before the jabs, it was obvious who was at risk. I was not high risk. My risk of dying from covid was less than 1/4 of a percent. The risk of taking an experimental shot that had no long-term studies, using not one, but TWO novel platforms was not worth it for me.

I realize this kind of reasoning is beyond your comprehension, as you were very easily manipulated into believing covid was a terrifying life or death scenario for every human being, no matter age or health.

It's hard to reason things out calmly when you're pissing your pants in manufactured terror.

[ExFlyer]

20 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You have a remarkable eye for the obvious.

It's about risk/benefit analysis.

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Wow, regurgitating what I have been saying form the beginning.

Finally you got smart? Finally you see the obvious? Took you long enough LOL

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8 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Finally you got smart? Finally you see the obvious? Took you long enough LOL

Notwithstanding the fact her analysis is backwards - apparently sacrificing millions upon millions of people to COVID to save a dozen or so from vaccine is what the government should have done.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Notwithstanding the fact her analysis is backwards - apparently sacrificing millions upon millions of people to COVID to save a dozen or so from vaccine is what the government should have done.

The fact you feel the need to lie to try to make your point already demonstrates you don't have a good point.

Why millions? Why not trillions?  I mean, if we're making up fake numbers that aren't remotely possible why not bazillions?

And sure - it was about a dozen people who were vaccine hesitant. That sounds about right. And for sure we risked killing quadrillions of people if those 12 didn't get the jab.

Give your head a shake boy

WHO put the 'Herd Immunity" level at about 60 percent, and then revised  it up to 70.   We would have hit Those numbers without forcing anyone. And the vaccine prevented serious illness so those who were at risk would have chosen to get the jab.

In fact - there's no evidence at all that it would have saved even one life.  Especially when you remember the jab did in fact kill people.

Soooooo.  You're a few million off of the actual death toll that doing the right thing would have cost

Typical leftie.   

Edited May 6, 2024 by CdnFox

[Venandi]

18 hours ago, Goddess said:

It's hard to reason things out calmly when you're pissing your pants in manufactured terror.

Scared populations are malleable, it's a tool... there are even courses in managing / exploiting it. Fear serves as a catalyst for predictable action and it's easier to deploy it with soundbites (or word of mouth in smaller venues) than it is to retract with facts, logic or even admissions and apologies from the authors for having done it.

The "NS wolf scam" is a case in point, it was entirely accidental but it truly makes me laugh every time I think about it.  People who knew about the information release (not realizing it was fabricated) and heard recorded howling on loudspeakers saw wolves behind every bush.

Here there be wolfs... some of the comments are cute too.

In a different (but similar vein) spotting / ignoring trolls is analogous. When you see sentences starting with WOW and/or ending with LOL it's usually, not always of course but usually troll spoor. It's a literary device used to motivate a response, usually an aggravated response which is hastily created, often in anger.

That angry response is then referenced and used to generate further responses. It's done on purpose and they do it for the same reason information management professionals create, deploy, and harness fear.... because it works. And it works because fear and anger always create an inducement to respond, it's usually an ill-advised response BTW that can then be harnessed/subtly modified for redeployment. 

Once you recognize it for what it is, "smiling and ignoring" it becomes relatively easy. Ignoring the bait, staying on point, and talking around the distraction generates a mirrored form of frustration in troll territory and sets the stage for personal attacks to draw you back in.

My response to those personal attacks is simple too, sign the waiver and step onto the mats or see yourself ignored.  

 

 

 

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[eyeball]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

In fact - there's no evidence at all that it would have saved even one life.  Especially when you remember the jab did in fact kill people.

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11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Why millions?

Because over 700 million were infected world wide leaving 7 million dead. That's with measures and vaccine.

In hindsight if we had just let it rip it probably would have substantially reduced CO2 emissions, so yeah... I guess it really was an opportunity lost. Damn.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

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LOL - always love to see your little admissions that i'm right and you have no argument  

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Because over 700 million were infected world wide leaving 7 million dead. That's with measures and vaccine.

So?  First off it's !diotic to suggest that somehow is evidence by itself that the number would have been different without the vaccine. You certainly would have to prove that MILLIONS more would have died without the vaccines at all which seems to be what you're suggesting

But on top of that - remember we still would have had vaccines. The majority of people (myself included) took them willingly. And it's pretty obvious that those in at risk groups would have been far more likely to take it.

So you would have to prove that if 60-70 percent of the people took it willingly (mostly in the at risk group) that this woudn't have had the same effect as having an extra 15 percent which was mostly young healthy people not at risk.

And further - 700 million people were not infected in canada.  And canada is what we're talking about. Canada had less than 60 thousand deaths as of may 3 2024.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Canada

 

So ... where's your evidence that if it was optional (without coersion) that the results would have been any different?

Oh you have none?  You were just lying and making shit up again to promote your echo chamber?

Yeah. Thought so

Edited May 6, 2024 by CdnFox

[Goddess]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Because over 700 million were infected world wide leaving 7 million dead. That's with measures and vaccine.

This is probably the most infantile view of a complicated issue that I've ever encountered. 

Not only are the figures incorrect but It takes absolutely nothing else that is implicit in virology or vaccinology, into account.

Now I see why any more in-depth facts or discussion enrages you.

[WestCanMan]

On 5/4/2024 at 3:13 PM, eyeball said:

In between when though? You guys were practically subscribing to hindsight while they were still using excavators to keep up with the dead.

It was obvious in March 2020 the US right wing was already off the tracks and willing to take everyone over the cliff with them.

March 2020 now? Leftists were all covid geniuses in March 2020?

Do you really want to know how serious leftards were about covid in March 2020?

Their primary concern re: covid back then was to paint Trump as a villain for blocking flights from... the place that covid came from 😂

Feb 24, and almost 1 full month after Trump was already taking covid deadly seriously, Nancy Pelosi was in Chinatown giving a master class in the opposite of social-distancing. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/nancy-pelosi-visits-san-franciscos-chinatown/2240247/

If you watch that video you'll see Pelosi indoors in a tightly packed room with dozens of people, and outside in a massive crowd hugging strangers... At that point it was almost a month since Trump had blocked flights, and that's where you guys were mentally. "Let's use the pandemic to attack Trump!" 

 

You've been a covid10t since day 1. Literally every single thing that you've said has been proven wrong. 

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5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

March 2020 now? Leftists were all covid geniuses in March 2020?

Nope, you right wingers are just really predictable is all.

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You've been a covid10t since day 1. Literally every single thing that you've said has been proven wrong. 

Except that my prediction on day 1 about the US not standing a chance against COVID because of its stupid yahoo factor was spot on.

Go ask Betsy, she remembers.

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Except that my prediction on day 1 about the US not standing a chance against COVID because of its stupid yahoo factor was spot on.

 

In fact you've been saying that for decades now   LOLOL

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Nope, you right wingers are just really predictable is all.

So you just don't have it in you to acknowledging the basic facts... No one is surprised.

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Except that my prediction on day 1 about the US not standing a chance against COVID because of its stupid yahoo factor was spot on.

Go ask Betsy, she remembers.

I could tell you for the thousandth time why Americans were affected by covid far more than we were, but there's no point. You have your limited understanding of how airborne viruses are spread and you're not capable of any more than that. 

[WestCanMan]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So?  First off it's !diotic to suggest that somehow is evidence by itself that the number would have been different without the vaccine. You certainly would have to prove that MILLIONS more would have died without the vaccines at all which seems to be what you're suggesting

It's just like with global warming... You can say anything about the weather and blame it on global warming...

"It's really cold outside in Spuzzum, BC today, that's because of global warming. Sometimes it makes it colder outside."

"A small village just 12 miles from the municipal airport outside of Derplima, Peru just broke their record-high temperature today by 0.08 degrees. That's proof that global warming is real. It's the 12th sq km on planet earth to set a record temperature in the last 8 months." 

"The Atlantic Ocean had the 12th-highest number of hurricanes in the last 100 years last year, that's because of global warming."

"It was really windy yesterday, that was because of global warming."

"Just because Canada's average temperature was .5 degrees cooler than usual last year doesn't prove anything, global warming is still real."

 

Covid10ts: "85% of Canadians became fully vaxed in 2021, and then we had 30% more covid deaths in 2022, with 86% of those covid deaths occurring among the multi-vaxed. BUT, there were way way way way more infections to cause those 30% more deaths. That's proof that the vaccine saved us. Sometimes more deaths is proof that the jab works, like with the polio vaccine."

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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I could tell you for the thousandth time why Americans were affected by covid far more than we were, but there's no point. You have your limited understanding of how airborne viruses are spread and you're not capable of any more than that.

Stupidity was always COVID's favourite vector - spread by word of mouth.

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Stupidity was always COVID's favourite vector - spread by word of mouth.

So you're saying YOU"RE responsible for covid!!!  (yew monster!)

[Goddess]

You can download or order a copy of the Australian Covid Commission's Inquiry into Excess Deaths, here:

Too Many Dead 2023 (redunion.com.au)

Australia, being an island, was an interesting case study - they had NO covid cases or deaths until the rollout of the jabs.

IT MAY AT FIRST SEEM AN EXTRAORDINARY THING TO SAY, BUT THE FACT IS THAT AUSTRALIA IS CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING A PROLONGED ELEVATED RATE OF DEATH ACROSS ALL AGE GROUPS. AN EXAMINATION OF THE OFFICIAL FIGURES SHOWS RATES IN THE VICINITY OF 12-17% ABOVE BASELINE AVERAGES, RATES NEVER SEEN SINCE WARTIME. THEY LEAPT UP IN EARLY 2021 AND CONTINUE AT UNUSUAL LEVELS TO THIS DAY.

In response to the globally declared COVID-19 pandemic, Australian medical and political authorities enforced unscientific and profoundly unethical public health measures such as extended lockdowns, border closures, school closures, forced masking and mandated novel vaccines still clearly in the experimental phase of development.

There is no credible evidence that the non-pharmaceutical or pharmaceutical public health interventions enforced reduced mortality and kept people “safe”.

The unprecedented excess deaths being seen in Australia are also being seen globally, with many countries witnessing disturbing trends in death from all causes, the majority of which are not attributable to COVID-19.

The scale of death suggests we are in the midst of an actual disaster. The fact that it appears silent alters nothing. Too many extra Australians are dying and yet almost none of our public health officials, politicians or medical colleges and associations seem interested in finding out why. We seem to be confronted by administrative wilful blindness. Failure of the authorities to seek answers in fact shows a reckless disregard for the lives of Australians. It is past time for us to demand an answer to what is causing these deaths and how to stop them. If the government really cares about keeping people “safe” why is there such a refusal to inquire?

Senator Ralph Babet put forward two motions in the Senate seeking acknowledgement and an investigation into Australia’s concerning excess death data. On March 23^rd, 2023 he proposed a select committee of inquiry.

Senator Babet pursuant to notice of motion not objected to as a formal motion, moved a general business notice of motion no. 194 - 

• That a select committee, to be known as the Select Committee on Australia’s Excess Mortality, be established to inquire into and report on (this issue)….

But the motion was defeated 35 to 4. Then again, regarding the Australian Bureau of Statistics Mortality date, on March 24^th, 2023, a motion was moved by Senator Babet asking that the Senate acknowledge:

• There has been a concerning number of excess deaths in Australia in 2021 and 2022, as evidenced by recent all-cause provisional mortality data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, and
• There is a need for further inquiry and scrutiny as to the reasons for these excess deaths, including why dementia and diabetes have seen significant increases in recent years.

The motion was defeated 30 to 29.

Since it appears those who have been entrusted to serve and protect the people refuse to fulfil their duty to seek answers, the Australian Medical Professionals’ Society will do so. AMPS, as an association of medical professionals dedicated to ethical evidence-based healthcare, is undertaking an inquiry that no one else will address. It is our duty as health professionals to make our patient’s health and safety our first priority. AMPS will be holding an inquiry into Australia’s excess mortality on Wednesday, October 18^th in Parliament House, Canberra. We have called for submissions from national and international experts as well as from the TGA, ATAGI and the Department of Health. 

The number of dying Australians constitutes an unfolding catastrophe and we owe it to all those dead Australians and their grieving families and friends to investigate what is killing people at such an alarming rate. Failing to seek answers is negligent and far beyond disrespectful. 

[WestCanMan]

16 minutes ago, Goddess said:

IT MAY AT FIRST SEEM AN EXTRAORDINARY THING TO SAY, BUT THE FACT IS THAT AUSTRALIA IS CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING A PROLONGED ELEVATED RATE OF DEATH ACROSS ALL AGE GROUPS. AN EXAMINATION OF THE OFFICIAL FIGURES SHOWS RATES IN THE VICINITY OF 12-17% ABOVE BASELINE AVERAGES, RATES NEVER SEEN SINCE WARTIME. THEY LEAPT UP IN EARLY 2021 AND CONTINUE AT UNUSUAL LEVELS TO THIS DAY.

In response to the globally declared COVID-19 pandemic, Australian medical and political authorities enforced unscientific and profoundly unethical public health measures such as extended lockdowns, border closures, school closures, forced masking and mandated novel vaccines still clearly in the experimental phase of development.

There is no credible evidence that the non-pharmaceutical or pharmaceutical public health interventions enforced reduced mortality and kept people “safe”.

The unprecedented excess deaths being seen in Australia are also being seen globally, with many countries witnessing disturbing trends in death from all causes, the majority of which are not attributable to COVID-19.

The scale of death suggests we are in the midst of an actual disaster.

 

Deaths, shmeths. All that matters is the charts that show that the vaccine saved us all.

On this one graph there's like, a line that goes way down along the bottom, and then another one that shoots way up to the top. It's TOTAL proof that the vaccines saved us all, and if you don't take them, you'll probably die before you finish your cup of coffee, just like I did. (I converted - I'm a vaxtard now)