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[robosmith]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

They were speaking openly against the vax.

They were saying "We don't trust the vaccine if it comes out before the election." She even said that Trump "was telling people to inject bleach" which is an obvious lie. 

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That article proves you're an idiot. I didn't say anything about pregnant or lactating women. 

As I and PolitiFACT said she was talking about Trump's interference in the release process to help his campaign.

2 against you.

You won't even acknowledge that Trump interfered in the CDC and the FDA for his political advantage cause you LIKE Trump so much you should marry him. Of course those agencies could NOT convince Moderna and Pfizer to meet Trump's scheduling demands cause THEY KNEW doing so would taint the vaccines' reputation.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Kyiv is not scorched. Not even close. 

The areas controlled by Russia ARE. Duh.

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

I want a reputable source to explain the stats and comparisons.  I choose Scientific American's conclusions over your's.   

I asked you to make your own conclusions based on what is happening in Canada.

You know what's happening here. 88% of our deaths are among the vaxed, and they only make up 86% of our vax-eligible population.

You really cared about covid deaths in this country when everyone was unvaxed. You were convinced we needed lockdowns, masks, social distancing, and you felt like everyone had to vax. Taking people's livelihood was perfectly fine if they didn't vax. 

Vaxing doesn't seem like a cure-all anymore. So what now eyeball? Man up ffs. Have an opinion of your own, based on the deaths stats in our country.

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

Still much greater than YOUR complete LACK of CORROBORATION.

I proved your source was invalid. Suck it down, princess. 

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

As I and PolitiFACT said she was talking about Trump's interference in the release process to help his campaign.

2 against you.

You won't even acknowledge that Trump interfered in the CDC and the FDA for his political advantage cause you LIKE Trump so much you should marry him. Of course those agencies could NOT convince Moderna and Pfizer to meet Trump's scheduling demands cause THEY KNEW doing so would taint the vaccines' reputation.

Biden and Harris were both downplaying the vax 100% until they got elected, then it was mandatory.

If you don't believe me, look at the video. I don't are about your idiotic opinion.

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

The areas controlled by Russia ARE. Duh.

You don't understand the topic. Shocker.

[DONKIROCK]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I asked you to make your own conclusions based on what is happening in Canada.

You know what's happening here. 88% of our deaths are among the vaxed, and they only make up 86% of our vax-eligible population.

You really cared about covid deaths in this country when everyone was unvaxed. You were convinced we needed lockdowns, masks, social distancing, and you felt like everyone had to vax. Taking people's livelihood was perfectly fine if they didn't vax. 

Vaxing doesn't seem like a cure-all anymore. So what now eyeball? Man up ffs. Have an opinion of your own, based on the deaths stats in our country.

The question an impartial observer might ask here is whether eyeball is an ideologue who will never be convinced?

Whether he argues like a person simply pretending to be interested in the issue in order to show future readers that your argument isnt the only plausible argument, or if he is someone who actually cares about the subject.

It is sometimes hard to tell.

They pride themselves on being convincing. 

 

Edited October 9, 2022 by DONKIROCK

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, DONKIROCK said:

The question an impartial observer might ask here is whether eyeball is an ideologue who will never be convinced?

Whether he argues like a person simply pretending to be interested in the issue in order to show future readers that your argument isnt the only plausible argument, or if he is someone who actually cares about the subject.

It is sometimes hard to tell.

They pride themselves on being convincing. 

They pride themselves on their ability to lie and gaslight.

Robo, eyeball, rebound etc know that everything they say is total bullshit. They get busted lying or saying stupid things 30 times a day and they don't care. At the end of the month they'll still be acting like they have all the answers and they'll be calling other people names as if they've been right all along.

Eg, Trump stood out in the open and spoke for 17 minutes, and when he was done his hair was dry as a bone, then he said "it didn't rain during my inauguration speech". Leftists said "OMG, Trump LIED and said that it never rained during his inauguration speech! He's such a terrible man! LOOK AT THIS HI-DEF VIDEO - YOU CAN SEE WHERE THERE ARE SOME RAINDROPS WHICH MIGHT BE NEW, JUST SITTING ON A CHAIR!"

There's absolutely no doubt whatsoever that these leftists knew that what they were saying was a lie, but they just keep saying it anyways because they needed to vent some of their bile. 

Then the same people say "So what if Hillary left people to die in Benghazi and then told lies about it? That was not a big deal. So what if Cuomo prevented people from being tested to see if they still had covid before they were put back into their care homes, and then he had his minions fudge the covid stats to shuffle covid deaths from the "care home" category to the "hospital" category. He said a lot of cool things on TV - HE WON AN EMMY FFS! So what if CNN and the Dems lied about Michael Brown being a gentle giant when he just committed a violent robbery moments before he was shot? The riots needed to happen!" 

Kevin Clinesmith lied to a judge in order to get warrants to spy on Trump's associates, and then to extend the witch hunt long after they knew that there was nothing to the collusion story, because it was a public show trial and the Dems needed to extend it to the mid-term elections. "Hey, it was no big deal for Clinesmith and McCabe to commit crimes. Their intentions were good!"

Leftists are the purest form of shit there is. Actual turds hold their noses when leftists walk by. 

[eyeball]

14 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I asked you to make your own conclusions based on what is happening in Canada.

You know what's happening here. 88% of our deaths are among the vaxed, and they only make up 86% of our vax-eligible population.

According to statista only 17.1% of the deaths in Canada are amongst vaccinated Canadians.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1257040/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-vaccination-status/#statisticContainer

Have you written Statista or Scientific American to correct them, and what did they say?

If you're so certain everyone else is wrong and you're right shouldn't you be submitting your conclusions and how you arrived at them to the proper authorities? If you're right you could be hailed as a hero saving both lives, money and resources. You will likely be in line for a Nobel prize, they'll name schools after you and you'll be buried under a pile of underwear that would make Arrowsmith blush.

 

[eyeball]

14 hours ago, DONKIROCK said:

The question an impartial observer might ask here is whether eyeball is an ideologue who will never be convinced?

Convinced of what? Things either are what they are or they're something else.

Do you think COVID is even real or is it fake? For people who think it's fake while citing studies and stats you have to wonder what it is they're trying to convince anyone of never mind why.

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

According to statista only 17.1% of the deaths in Canada are amongst vaccinated Canadians.

That's only the deaths in "Primary Series Completed" group. People who didn't get any boosters.

For some reason it doesn't include triple-vaxed, which is higher than the dbl-vaxed, and it doesn't include the 4x-vaxed either.

Oddly enough, 3730 is 17.1% of 20,813, and you can't get the total of 20,813 by adding the numbers in all of those columns.  It's only 20,013. (There were some additional deaths on earlier versions of this chart showing the number of single-vaxed and "unprotected" - people who had the first shot but hadn't gone through the initial 14-day waiting period for the vax to theoretically have any effect. They stopped putting those on the chart when they added the column for 4x-jabbed. They must still be using those numbers in the total calculation to get the 17.1% figure.) - (Um, nope. I just checked, and those numbers were 796 and 938. Neither one brings the total to 20,813. The guy must have just done a typo, and put an 8 wehere the second zero should have been. Ie typed 20,813 instead of 20,013)

In any event, to get the 17.1% number for the dbl-vaxed, you have to use the unvaxed total plus the dbl-, AND the triple- and quadruple-vaxed totals. 

The wee idiot, John Elflein, who is responsible for that number, added the 3x and 4x-jabbed deaths into the denominator for that equation, but didn't add them into the numerator. Kind of odd because everyone who has 3 and 4 doses also had the first two. They definitely had to be in the numerator along with the dbl-vaxed.

My guess is that John Elflein is some leftist who wasn't qualified to do that job, he's just there because he's replacing someone who would have done the job properly, which isn't simpatico with vax-Naziism. This is reminiscent of the girl who was doing the firearms control on the set of Alec Baldwin's movie - they didn't want an NRA guy there so they just hired a girl who knew sweet FA about the job she was doing.

 

Again, 88% of the people who are dying in Canada are dbl-, triple-, and quadruple-jabbed. You are aware of that now, what do you make of it?

Stop weaseling around. You can do basic math, or at least follow what I wrote here, and John Elflein obviously cannot. 

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That's only the deaths in "Primary Series Completed" group. People who didn't get any boosters.

For some reason it doesn't include triple-vaxed, which is higher than the dbl-vaxed, and it doesn't include the 4x-vaxed either.

So what did the authorities say when you presented them with your conclusions after factoring in the corrected datasets you use? When can you expect a call from the Nobel Committee?

[DONKIROCK]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Convinced of what? Things either are what they are or they're something else.

Do you think COVID is even real or is it fake? For people who think it's fake while citing studies and stats you have to wonder what it is they're trying to convince anyone of never mind why.

I care, of course. But I can't  get enthused about some view of Covid or another except if Trump recommends it.

Life is simpler when you are able to make a single decision and then no longer have to bother with it.

Donald Trump has my trust and whatever he says and however he says and whenever he says is most likely better than anyone else saying a thing.

Trump is like an investment which is moderate, well managed and far above average performing investment fund.

I feel like he works for me as the general manager of my country's matters and government.

He's not a perfect person, but he may be the perfect President.

If he says Covid is like ABC, or XYZ, I will take his word as gospel.

That's why I haven't  weighed in on the topic.

We dont know enough yet.

And we haven't the power to investigate it fully and adjudicate it appropriately. 

So, I await Trump's notification that there is a side to support.

When DJT says a thing, that is when I will weigh in.

Budweiser used to have a slogan that fits here.

Budweiser commercial When you say Bud

When you say "Trump," you've said it all!

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Edited October 10, 2022 by DONKIROCK

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

So what did the authorities say when you presented them with your conclusions after factoring in the corrected datasets you use? When can you expect a call from the Nobel Committee?

So what do you have to say about the fact that so many 3x-jabbed people are dying? 

What do you have to say about the fact that so many 4x-jabbed people are dying, right here in our country? 

[eyeball]

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

So what do you have to say about the fact that so many 3x-jabbed people are dying? 

What do you have to say about the fact that so many 4x-jabbed people are dying, right here in our country? 

That's easy, the vast majority of Canadians are vaccinated but the vaccine isn't perfect.

What do you have to say about the fact that unvaccinated people are still far more likely to get get sick and die than vaccinated people?

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

What do you have to say about the fact that unvaccinated people are still far more likely to get get sick and die than vaccinated people?

Based on what you know to be true, because you've seen the stats for our entire country, that's a lie. 

14% of vax-eligible Canadians are unvaxxed and yet that 14% of our country only accounts for 12% of covid deaths. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Based on what you know to be true, because you've seen the stats for our entire country, that's a lie. 

14% of vax-eligible Canadians are unvaxxed and yet that 14% of our country only accounts for 12% of covid deaths. 

They account for 48.9% of deaths in Canada from COVID according to;

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/

Scroll down to figure 5 under the Cases Following Vaccination section.

Simply put the more vaccinated you are the better which is pretty much the exact opposite of what you say. The only thing you have to fall back on is your belief that we're all being lied to by a vast network of conspirators that only you can see. At this point your belief is more like a desperate hope given its all you've got.

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by eyeball

[WestCanMan]

47 minutes ago, eyeball said:

They account for %48.9 of deaths in Canada from COVID according to;

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/

Scroll down to figure 5 under the Cases Following Vaccination section.

Simply put the more vaccinated you are the better which is pretty much the exact opposite of what you say. The only thing you have to fall back on is your belief that we're all being lied to by a vast network of conspirators that only you can see. At this point your belief is more like a desperate hope given its all you've got.

 

Right.

I took a photo of the page, it backs up exactly what I showed you from Statista. Thanks for corroborating that.

Now I want you to think about the fact that this data goes back to Dec 14 2020.

How many dbl-vaxed people were there on that day?

How many triple-vaxed people were there on that day?

How many quadruple-vaxed people were there on that day?

Zero, zero, and zero.

There were 38 million unvaxed people on that day. During ancestral covid. Right in the middle of flu season. 100% to zero percent.

Basically 100% of all deaths that occurred between Dec 14 2020 and Feb 1 2021 were among the unvaxed. There were a few people who had the first shot but weren't protected yet because they didn't go though the 14-day waiting period. Between Feb 1 and April 1 there were still over 37M of 38M unvaxed in the country, there were just a bunch of single vaxed people, plus a handful who were in their second 14-day waiting period.

It wasn't until after flu season was over, July of 2021, that the number of double-vaxed started to equal the number of unvaxed. 

So from Dec 14 2020 until late May of 2021, 95% of covid deaths were among the unvaxed because 95% of our exposure to covid was among the unvaxed. They built up quite a lead.

Double-vaxed Canadians have still only experienced 1 flu season: 2021/22. There were no triple-vaxed people during either flu season. Ditto for quadruple-vaxed. They're just coming into their first flu season right now. All of their deaths are basically "summer deaths". 

 

The numbers that I told you were absolutely, positively correct, because the death toll has been climbing at the exact rate that I said it was.

StatsCan can say what they want to back Trudeau's propaganda, but the fact is that right now 88% of the people who are dying of covid are "protected". You can do the math yourself if you want, all the data is below.

[Aristides]

Thought this this topic was Nordstream but WestCanMan seems to turn all his topics into Covid topics.