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[DONKIROCK]

11 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Are you always this lost? Explains a lot.

I think your homosexual yearnings are getting the best of you, Ari fairy. 

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, DONKIROCK said:

I think your homosexual yearnings are getting the best of you, Ari fairy. 

Every post just gets more pathetic. Projecting yourself on others perhaps?

[DONKIROCK]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Every post just gets more pathetic. Projecting yourself on others perhaps?

We all know that you cruise for twinkies in your convertible. 

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[WestCanMan]

Just now, robosmith said:

The study analyzed FL and OH. NY was NOT included.

So it's cherry-picked. That's worth noting.

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ONLY the peak TEMPORARILY diverged PRIOR to the vaccine. AFTER vax it was continuous.

The gap was there for months, and it was large. And like I said, Republicans are older, because they are generally wiser. 

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Biden and Harris ONLY objected due to Trump's ATTEMPTED manipulation of the release date to serve his campaign. 

You are such a pathetic G-D liar. They spoke openly against the vax. Are you saying that you know why they did it now, and that it was ok for political purposes? LMAO. 

I hate that I spend most of my time here trying to educate pre-schoolers.

You're really an embarrassment to the people who you're trying to support. It almost makes me wonder of you're actually a conservative who started a fake leftist account just to say things that discredit leftards in general. 

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The graph shows a split. We KNOW the Republicans are watching Fox and

No one is "anti-jab" for the people in the covid death demographic.

IMO they might as well take the jab - there's a small possibility that it could save them, and it's not like they're intending on having babies, so the side-effects that fertile women are suffering don't apply to them. 

I'm extremely hostile to the idea that children should be pressured to take the jab. No one has ever made the case for it. It doesn't slow the spread and children don't need it. There are also side-effects which we currently know about, and most likely there are more to come. 

Young adults should definitely not be forced into vaxing. They don't need it either, and again, there are side-effects which are extremely serious. 

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BELIEVE their anti-vax BULLSHIT.

Grow up. You're just so gross.

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BS. If I need a vaccine to get a kidney transplant, I'm getting the vaccine.

Good for you. IDGAF.

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"Likely"? I'm convinced. NOT.

Meanwhile the graph clearly shows that the GAP WIDENS as more people get vaccinated.

You're talking about a GAP that's cherry-picked from two states, and in two groups of people with different average ages. 

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Are you sure you're a statistician?

Stats are a part of what I do in my job, yes. 

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Do statistics LIE?

"Stats" are easy to skew if you know what you want them to show. 

If I was going to do a clinical trial on my own vaccines I could definitely get the stats to yield the results that I wanted. 

I can pick out people who'd have good outcomes and bad outcomes vs the virus just by looking at them and so could literally anyone who knows anything about the vaccine or health in general.

It's a certainty that in some individual cases you'd be slightly off, but it's also a certainty that with groups of 1,000 and 1,000 the results that I wanted to show would come out. 

 

That's why it's always best to use a large sample size which isn't cherry-picked. For example, every single person in an entire country. Like Canada. Why not use the data from every single person who has been exposed to covid? 

When you use "all Canadians" as your test subjects, and don't split them into groups where one is likely to be younger and healthier than the other (ie soccer players in one group, shuffleboard players in the other), you get the truest results. 

In this case, the results don't favor the vaccine.

And TBH, when I show the stats which discredit the Pflacebo, my end goal isn't to make the case that no one should take it. IDGAF what other people do to their bodies. Go be the next Lizzo if you want, I don't care. My goal is to put an end to vax-Naziism. 

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, DONKIROCK said:

We all know that you cruise for twinkies in your convertible. 

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You really are a sad puppy, desperately looking for attention.

[DONKIROCK]

Just now, Aristides said:

You really are a sad puppy, desperately looking for attention.

Well let's see how much attention I get after giving you a time out.

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[Aristides]

Just now, DONKIROCK said:

Well let's see how much attention I get after giving you a time out.

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Tell someone who gives a shit.

[WestCanMan]

36 minutes ago, Aristides said:

We really don't know if there was a settlement or what it was but considering the turn this war has taken, the Ukrainians are probably glad they didn't give anything up.

Yeah, we really know what was on the table, and how close they were to a deal, I'm just not sure who kiboshed the deal - whether it really was Biden or if Zelensky just doesn't care about his own people dying. 

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They are in a much stronger bargaining position now.

Who knows, honestly? Do you believe what you see in the news, knowing that this is a war, so lying has been cranked up a notch? 

We've been hearing that Ukraine is "winning" every day since the very beginning, but more and more Ukranians flood out, and more and more of Ukraine resembles a crater every week. I don't think that's what 'winning' looks like.  

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Of course the wishes of Ukraine not to be part of Russia is of no account to you. They are the ones doing the fighting, and doing rather well. 

If Ukraine didn't want this, they could have said "No" to joining NATO a year ago and all of their civilians would still be alive, none of their homes would be destroyed. 

F Ukraine. Let it burn for all I care. They chose to be like this with their neighbour and now they get to reap what they've sown. 

I hope that Canada doesn't threaten to form an alliance with Iran, NoKo, China and Russia, because I know how America will respond. I'm not as dumb as Zelenski. He got thousands of his people killed, thousands of homes destroyed, and the effect of this war on the global food supply will not be small. 

[Aristides]

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Yeah, we really know what was on the table, and how close they were to a deal, I'm just not sure who kiboshed the deal - whether it really was Biden or if Zelensky just doesn't care about his own people dying. 

We don't know.

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Who knows, honestly? Do you believe what you see in the news, knowing that this is a war, so lying has been cranked up a notch? 

We've been hearing that Ukraine is "winning" every day since the very beginning, but more and more Ukranians flood out, and more and more of Ukraine resembles a crater every week. I don't think that's what 'winning' looks like.  

Even the Russians say they are losing. First the Ukrainians were winning because they weren't losing. Now they are actually winning.

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If Ukraine didn't want this, they could have said "No" to joining NATO a year ago and all of their civilians would still be alive, none of their homes would be destroyed. 

Public support for joining NATO was low before Russia annexed Crimea. In spite of that Ukraine didn't request membership until last week. Russia and Russia alone is responsible for Ukraine wanting to join NATO.

 

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F Ukraine. Let it burn for all I care. They chose to be like this with their neighbour and now they get to reap what they've sown. 

Russia is killing Ukrainians on Ukraine soil. Maybe time the Russians reaped what they sow.;

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

So it's cherry-picked. That's worth noting.

It was limited to states with nearly equal distributions according to Party, which is important for distinguishing Party effects, right? 

Small study does not have much resources.

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

The gap was there for months, and it was large. And like I said, Republicans are older, because they are generally wiser. 

It is much larger and growing AFTER the vax.

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

You are such a pathetic G-D liar. They spoke openly against the vax. Are you saying that you know why they did it now, and that it was ok for political purposes? LMAO. 

Now you're lying.

Says Joe Biden and Kamala Harris distrusted COVID-19 vaccines.

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• Video clips appear to show Joe Biden and Kamala Harris raising doubts about COVID-19 vaccines, but they were raising concerns about the rollout by then-President Donald Trump, not the vaccines themselves.

 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I hate that I spend most of my time here trying to educate pre-schoolers.

No need when you're so wrong. You're just spreading misinformation.

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

You're really an embarrassment to the people who you're trying to support. It almost makes me wonder of you're actually a conservative who started a fake leftist account just to say things that discredit leftards in general. 

 

You really have NO CREDIBILITY ^HERE.

 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

No one is "anti-jab" for the people in the covid death demographic.

Some are. I've spoken with them online.

 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

IMO they might as well take the jab - there's a small possibility that it could save them, and it's not like they're intending on having babies, so the side-effects that fertile women are suffering don't apply to them. 

Johns Hopkins says you're WRONG

Should people who are pregnant and/or lactating receive the COVID-19 vaccine?

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Yes. Johns Hopkins Medicine agrees with and strongly supports the recommendations of the CDC and its Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) and the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine (SMFM), which say that all people who are pregnant and/or lactating, along with those trying to become pregnant, should be vaccinated against COVID-19.

 

 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Honest to God, it takes me fifteen posts to explain basic proportions to the leftists around here.

Your mistake is still as obvious as the first time you explained it.

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

This is one of the main problems that you run into when you have stupid people trying to explain stats.

FIFY.

[WestCanMan]

54 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Even the Russians say they are losing.

Where did you see that?

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First the Ukrainians were winning because they weren't losing. Now they are actually winning.

Doubtful.

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Public support for joining NATO was low before Russia annexed Crimea. In spite of that Ukraine didn't request membership until last week. Russia and Russia alone is responsible for Ukraine wanting to join NATO.

Support for Ukraine joining NATO is still low.

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Russia is killing Ukrainians on Ukraine soil. Maybe time the Russians reaped what they sow.;

What do Kyiv and the twin towers have in common? 

Nothing. Yet.

The way Russian will fight in Russia and the way they are fighting in Ukraine are two entirely different things.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Your lies about Trump are duly noted, but in all honesty, Biden is the one who is actually known to be the biggest liar.

Him and the Dems tell outrageous lies on every topic. Material lies - IE lies that really matter in an important way. 

This is nothing like "Trump may have lied, because hi def cameras may have caught 11 tiny raindrops in 17 minutes", it's lies like "I wasn't aware that my son was receiving millions of dollars from foreign countries while he was flying around on AF2 with me."

Hillary's lies about Benghazi were off the charts.

Biden lied about who he killed with his drone strike. It was just a family, not a bunch of terrorists. Final score in Afghanistan: Al Qaeda killed 13 Americans, and they also got Biden to kill a bunch of children. 

Al Qaeda 20 : Biden zero. 

Cuomo banned infected seniors from being tested for covid before they were sent back into care homes, then fudged death stats to make it seem like they were all just dying in hospitals. That wasn't even a big deal to Dems - they canned him for "possibly grabbing some ass". There's not a lie in the western world that even compares to that. It was an atrocity. But Dems just ignore it. They worthless pieces of sh__, period. 

I already posted the comparison between Trump and Biden from PolitiFACT.

Trump has lied TWICE AS MUCH as Biden. Frankly I was surprised it was that close.

My evidence: 1 yours: 0

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Where did you see that?

Doubtful.

Support for Ukraine joining NATO is still low.

What do Kyiv and the twin towers have in common? 

Nothing. Yet.

The way Russian will fight in Russia and the way they are fighting in Ukraine are two entirely different things.

They could NOT get more scorched Earth than Ukraine.

[WestCanMan]

21 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Now you're lying.

Says Joe Biden and Kamala Harris distrusted COVID-19 vaccines.

 

They were speaking openly against the vax.

They were saying "We don't trust the vaccine if it comes out before the election." She even said that Trump "was telling people to inject bleach" which is an obvious lie. 

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Johns Hopkins says you're WRONG

 

That article proves you're an idiot. I didn't say anything about pregnant or lactating women. 

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Your mistake is still as obvious as the first time you explained it.

Says the guy who fell flat on his face with his "base rate fallacy" BS. LMAO. 

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I already posted the comparison between Trump and Biden from PolitiFACT.

Trump has lied TWICE AS MUCH as Biden. Frankly I was surprised it was that close.

My evidence: 1 yours: 0

Politifact - zero credibility.

Thanks for comin' out.

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

They could NOT get more scorched Earth than Ukraine.

Kyiv is not scorched. Not even close. 

[Aristides]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Where did you see that?

Doubtful.

There are lots more.

 

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Support for Ukraine joining NATO is still low.

It went from 28% in 2012 to 69% in 2017. Bet it is more like 90% now.

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What do Kyiv and the twin towers have in common? 

Nothing. Yet.

 

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The way Russian will fight in Russia and the way they are fighting in Ukraine are two entirely different things.

One thing we agree on. But this isn't being fought in Russia.

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11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Says the guy who fell flat on his face with his "base rate fallacy" BS. LMAO. 

So says everyone else who isn't a stubborn pigheaded right wing partisan.

As I've said many many times over the last few years stupidity is COVID's favorite vector and now there's a study comparing deaths of pigheaded right wing partisans to ordinary people that proves it.

[WestCanMan]

31 minutes ago, Aristides said:

There are lots more.

It's possibly true, I don't honestly know.

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It went from 28% in 2012 to 69% in 2017. Bet it is more like 90% now.

I don't even know what you mean. Are you talking about average civilians in NATO countries? 

That doesn't even matter. If just one country says no, they can't join.

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I mean, Kyiv will be like the twin towers if Ukrainians or anyone else crosses Russia's border.

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One thing we agree on. But this isn't being fought in Russia.

Yep.

[WestCanMan]

24 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So says everyone else who isn't a stubborn pigheaded right wing partisan.

As I've said many many times over the last few years stupidity is COVID's favorite vector and now there's a study comparing deaths of pigheaded right wing partisans to ordinary people that proves it.

Lol. You want to choose the stats of two cherry-picked states and compare two groups of people of different ages to get "Sum reel reel stats, baby!" and you'll ignore the stats from your own, entire country?

 

I want you to look at this and tell me what YOU make of it then eyeball... What does this mean to YOU?

 

Aug 21 there were 10,645 deaths among unjabbed. 10,673 on the 28th. An increase of 28 deaths among the unjabbed that week.

Aug 21 there were 3,699 deaths among 2x-jabbed. 3,730 on the 28th. An increase of 31 deaths among the 2x-jabbed that week.

Aug 21 there were 4,727 deaths among 3x-jabbed. 4,830 on the 28th. An increase of 103 deaths among the 3x-jabbed that week.

Aug 21 there were 708 deaths among 4x-jabbed. 780 on the 28th. An increase of 72 deaths among the 4x-jabbed that week.

Unjabbed deaths in the week of Aug 21 - Aug 28 = 28.

2x + 3x + 4x-jabbed deaths in the week of Aug 21 - Aug 28 = 31 + 103 + 72 = 206.

Total covid deaths Aug 21 - 28 in Canada = 206 + 28 = 234.

Unjabbed 28/234 = 11.9% of deaths

Jabbed  206/234 = 88.03% of deaths.

Just like in the May 1 - Aug 21 stats, 88% of covid deaths in Canada occurred among the 2x, 3x and 4x jabbed. 

 

What do you make of that eyeball? Why are 88% of our deaths occurring among the unvaxxed when only 86% of eligible Canadians are vaxxed? 

If you vaccinated 86% of Canadians for smallpox, polio, TB, rubella, meningitis, etc, would you expect 88% of deaths to occur among the vaccinated? 

No, you would not. At most, with TB you'd expect to have maybe 30% of the deaths among the vaxed. With polio, there would be far less than 1% of deaths occurring among the vaxxed. With covid it is 88% of the deaths. 

What does that mean to you?

Does that 88% death rate indicate to you that the covid shot is effective enough to warrant giving it to children, and forcing young adults to choose between taking it and losing their job? 

No pressure, just make your own comment about the fact that 6x as many eligible Canadians are vaxxed, and 6x as many eligible Canadians are dying of covid. 

And don't say "BASE RATE FALLACY!" again because the fact that I'm acknowledging that 86% of Canadians are vaxed (6x as many) completely destroys any chance that there is a base rate fallcy. I can't emphasize that to you strongly enough. 

Does that 88% death rate indicate to you that the covid shot is effective enough to warrant giving it to children, and forcing young adults to choose between taking it and losing their job? 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

 

I don't even know what you mean. Are you talk

ing about average civilians in NATO countries? 

No, I'm talking about the average citizens of Ukraine.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Lol. You want to choose the stats of two cherry-picked states and compare two groups of people of different ages to get "Sum reel reel stats, baby!" and you'll ignore the stats from your own, entire country?

I want a reputable source to explain the stats and comparisons.  I choose Scientific American's conclusions over your's. 

Nothing has changed since Scientific American ran their article.  The death rate among unvaccinated people is still far higher than that among the vaccinated even though vaccinated people now make up a significant proportion of deaths.

  

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Politifact - zero credibility.

Thanks for comin' out.

Still much greater than YOUR complete LACK of CORROBORATION.