Nordstream Pipeline - Reichstag V2.0

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, DONKIROCK said:

This demonstrates how naturally you demean an organization you belong to.

"Maybe you came over to this forum because they don't allow knobs in that one. "

The assumption is that in your opinion, this fine forum allows "knobs."

I guess that your disloyalty to America shouldnt be taken personally after seeing how you sh*t on re:politics.

Treason, betrayal, America-hatred and disloyalty is like a birth defect among Democrats, huh?

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He's a Canadian, he owes

 no allegiance  to the US and he has been here a hell of a lot longer than you.

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, Aristides said:

RE: Your thread title. The Russians built this pipeline. The NAZIS burned down their own Reichstag. Just sayin.

It's definitely worth noting, but I really don't think Russia wants war with NATO. 

Do you think that Biden, Lindsay Graham and 100-200 other worthless dolts in Congress and the Senate want war with Russia?

It's really sad that the only thing that Congress and the Senate can agree on lately is killing other people. Maybe they're all just assholes. 

[Aristides]

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's definitely worth noting, but I really don't think Russia wants war with NATO. 

Do you think that Biden, Lindsay Graham and 100-200 other worthless dolts in Congress and the Senate want war with Russia?

It's really sad that the only thing that Congress and the Senate can agree on lately is killing other people. Maybe they're all just assholes. 

I don't think Russia does either. Neither does NATO or Biden. NATO's problem is how to stop Russian aggression without going to war itself. Fortunately NATO is a defensive alliance and no single member can force it into a war unless it has been attacked itself. Not even the US.

 

Lindsay Graham is the prototypical politician weather vane, his principles are as changeable as the Calgary weather.

Maybe reserve a little of your rage for the ahole who started this war.

Edited October 8, 2022 by Aristides

[DONKIROCK]

41 minutes ago, Aristides said:

He's a Canadian, he owes

 no allegiance  to the US and he has been here a hell of a lot longer than you.

The length of his tenure has not seemed to invest a sense of loyalty in that one.

I believe he should be given the gift of a greater appreciation of what he has in his re:politics membership.

Say, I will give him a small taste of said appreciation.

Thanks, Arrested!

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Thanks to your help, eyeball is now on my ignore list!

And on Donki's Redemption Day, eyeball can demonstrate a greater appreciation of re:politics and earn his way back into the general population!

Splendid teamwork, Airy testes!

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Edited October 8, 2022 by DONKIROCK

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, DONKIROCK said:

The length of his tenure has not seemed to invest a sense of loyalty in that one.

I believe he should be given the gift of a greater appreciation of what he has in his re:politics membership.

Say, I will give him a small taste of said appreciation.

Thanks, Arrested!

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You might want to click the Home button at the top of the page.

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, robosmith said:

Of course Pfizer has a vaccine. And it's "news" sources like Fox that have caused HIGHER DEATHS in right winger who watch it.

Gap Between Democrat, Republican Deaths After COVID-19 Vaccine Release Highlighted in Study

 

Note how the gap between Parties spreads AFTER the vaccine is available.

Graphic PROOF that the vaccine works and Republicans are too stupid to take it.

This is one of the main problems that you run into when you have stupid people trying to interpret stats.

Honest to God, it takes me fifteen posts to explain basic proportions to the leftists around here.

Two things that you need to understand to make sense of that interesting (if true) factoid:

1) 96% of covid deaths are among the very elderly with co-morbidities. Almost everyone who dies of covid fits into this demographic. 

2) Republicans are older than Dems, on average.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/age-distribution/by/state/among/party-affiliation/democrat-lean-dem/

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/age-distribution/by/state/among/party-affiliation/republican-lean-rep/

Pew Research has some charts showing the "Age distribution among Dems/Republicans and people who lean towards each party by state", and I didn't take the time to putt all the numbers for each party into a spreadsheet and figure out the average, but here are some highlights:

There are 18 states where 16% or less of Dems are 65+. There are 11 more states where it's just at 17%. Altogether there are 29 states where people over 65 account for 17% or less of the Dem voters. People over 65 make up 17% or less of Dem voters in most US states.

There are only 6 states where 16% or less of Republicans are 65+. There are 5 more states where it's just at 17%. Altogether there are 11 states where people over 65 account for 17% or less of the GOP voters. People over 65 make up 17% or less of GOP voters in 1/5th of US states.

There are 18 states where people 65+ form 21% or more of GOP voters.

There are only 8 states where people 65+ form 21% or more of Dem voters.

California, Florida and NY all follow the same trend. I just checked them because they're the most populous states.

 

Conclusion: It was a certainty that GOP voters would be affected by covid to a greater extent than Dems because they have more people in the covid death demographic.

Someone please explain this to Hodad and eyeball for me. I don't have all damn day to hold their hands.

 

If you check on the stat for "covid deaths active gymnasts" vs "covid deaths among people who play bingo", you'll find that "people who play bingo are too dumb to vax, that's why they die."

Weird. Are all gymnasts dems? Or is it something else?

Edited October 8, 2022 by WestCanMan

[DONKIROCK]

38 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's definitely worth noting, but I really don't think Russia wants war with NATO. 

Do you think that Biden, Lindsay Graham and 100-200 other worthless dolts in Congress and the Senate want war with Russia?

It's really sad that the only thing that Congress and the Senate can agree on lately is killing other people. Maybe they're all just assholes. 

Democrats love death.

Try this ongoing experiment. 

Anytime in the news or in popular fiction, whenever someone starts violence or even advocates violence, see if you can figure out if they are Democrats or Republicans.

WestCan, I am starting to get the idea that you are a natural MAGAnMan even though you seem to be a proud and esteemed WestCanMan.

You deplore the same things that we MAGAns do!

And it's not all of "them" who are to blame.

It's the Democrats.

Remember what Trump the Great says, "Everything 'woke' turns to shxx!"

 

 

[WestCanMan]

A lie from robosmith's article above:

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"Here we have a vaccine that's highly, highly effective in preventing disease and certainly in preventing severe disease and hospitalization," said Fauci, the chief medical advisor to the president. "It's easy to get, it's free and it's readily available so you've got to ask, 'What is the problem?' Get over it, Get over this political statement. Just get over it and try and save the lives of yourself and your family."

Covid deaths in Canada by vax status:

Aug 21 there were 10,645 deaths among unjabbed. 10,673 on the 28th. An increase of 28 deaths that week.

Aug 21 there were 3,699 deaths among 2x-jabbed. 3,730 on the 28th. An increase of 31 deaths that week.

Aug 21 there were 4,727 deaths among 3x-jabbed. 4,830 on the 28th. An increase of 103 deaths that week.

Aug 21 there were 708 deaths among 4x-jabbed. 780 on the 28th. An increase of 72 deaths that week.

Unjabbed deaths in the week of Aug 21 - Aug 28 = 28.

2x + 3x + 4x-jabbed deaths in the week of Aug 21 - Aug 28 = 31 + 103 + 72 = 206.

Total covid deaths Aug 21 - 28 in Canada = 206 + 28 = 234.

Unjabbed 28/234 = 11.9% of deaths

Jabbed  206/234 = 88.03% of deaths.

88% of covid deaths in Canada are occurring among the 2x, 3x and 4x jabbed. Is that what we call "highly, highly effective"?

[DONKIROCK]

41 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You might want to click the Home button at the top of the page.

Oh crap, did I unwittingly insult Justin Truedope?

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[WestCanMan]

55 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I don't think Russia does either.

We agree on one thing.

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Neither does NATO or Biden.

I don't think "NATO" wants war. It's 30 countries or so. Of course a lot of them don't want it. 

Biden?

The Ukrainians and Russians already worked on a peace settlement in Turkey, and Russia's demands weren't so bad.

Accepting the loss of Crimea was already a foregone conclusion. It's just Donbass that's a sticking point.  

 

The US is not willing to lose face against Russia. They don't care how many Ukrainians have to die. They're willing to risk war with Russia. It's sick. 

[WestCanMan]

26 minutes ago, DONKIROCK said:

 

 

 

Donald Trump is like our Donald Cherry here in Canada.

They're both appreciated by conservatives for being honest and having common sense, they're both reviled by leftists for being honest and having common sense.  

[robosmith]

40 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

This is one of the main problems that you run into when you have stupid people trying to interpret stats.

Honest to God, it takes me fifteen posts to explain basic proportions to the leftists around here.

Two things that you need to understand to make sense of that interesting (if true) factoid:

1) 96% of covid deaths are among the very elderly with co-morbidities. Almost everyone who dies of covid fits into this demographic. 

2) Republicans are older than Dems, on average.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/age-distribution/by/state/among/party-affiliation/democrat-lean-dem/

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/age-distribution/by/state/among/party-affiliation/republican-lean-rep/

Pew Research has some charts showing the "Age distribution among Dems/Republicans and people who lean towards each party by state", and I didn't take the time to putt all the numbers for each party into a spreadsheet and figure out the average, but here are some highlights:

There are 18 states where 16% or less of Dems are 65+. There are 11 more states where it's just at 17%. Altogether there are 29 states where people over 65 account for 17% or less of the Dem voters. People over 65 make up 17% or less of Dem voters in most US states.

There are only 6 states where 16% or less of Republicans are 65+. There are 5 more states where it's just at 17%. Altogether there are 11 states where people over 65 account for 17% or less of the GOP voters. People over 65 make up 17% or less of GOP voters in 1/5th of US states.

There are 18 states where people 65+ form 21% or more of GOP voters.

There are only 8 states where people 65+ form 21% or more of Dem voters.

California, Florida and NY all follow the same trend. I just checked them because they're the most populous states.

 

Conclusion: It was a certainty that GOP voters would be affected by covid to a greater extent than Dems because they have more people in the covid death demographic.

Someone please explain this to Hodad and eyeball for me. I don't have all damn day to hold their hands.

 

If you check on the stat for "covid deaths active gymnasts" vs "covid deaths among people who play bingo", you'll find that "people who play bingo are too dumb to vax, that's why they die."

Weird. Are all gymnasts dems? Or is it something else?

The PROBLEM with ^this "analysis" is that the gap between Republican and Democratic deaths tracked CLOSELY until AFTER the VACCINE became available.

IF it was SOLELY due to age discrepancies, then the larger gap would have been there from the START.

Mistakes like ^this is what happens when you go searching (in vain) for ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATIONS to serve YOUR AGENDA.

Oh, and Republicans watch Fox which has been on an anti-vax crusade since it came out. Maybe you can explain WHY, since the vax works.

 

 

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Donald Trump is like our Donald Cherry here in Canada.

They're both appreciated by conservatives for being honest and having common sense, they're both reviled by leftists for being honest and having common sense.  

Except EVERYONE HERE (outside his cult) KNOWS Trump LIES like a sack of potato (gratuitous Russian dig ). 

[DONKIROCK]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

We agree on one thing.

I don't think "NATO" wants war. It's 30 countries or so. Of course a lot of them don't want it. 

Biden?

The Ukrainians and Russians already worked on a peace settlement in Turkey, and Russia's demands weren't so bad.

Accepting the loss of Crimea was already a foregone conclusion. It's just Donbass that's a sticking point.  

 

The US is not willing to lose face against Russia. They don't care how many Ukrainians have to die. They're willing to risk war with Russia. It's sick. 

It's the Democrats.

You will be hard pressed to find any Trump supporters openly, obviously and obnoxiously (or even  covertly) pushing for war.

[DONKIROCK]

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Donald Trump is like our Donald Cherry here in Canada.

They're both appreciated by conservatives for being honest and having common sense, they're both reviled by leftists for being honest and having common sense.  

I think I will make a point to learn more about Donald Cherry!

With a name like DON, how could he be wrong?

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[Aristides]

28 minutes ago, DONKIROCK said:

Oh crap, did I unwittingly insult Justin Truedope?

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 I don't care if you insult Trudeau. Just pointing out where you are and how stupid you come across lecturing Canadians on their lack of allegiance to the US.

[robosmith]

15 minutes ago, DONKIROCK said:

It's the Democrats.

You will be hard pressed to find any Trump supporters openly, obviously and obnoxiously (or even  covertly) pushing for war.

They've been pushing a war on democracy ever since they LOST  2020.

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The PROBLEM with ^this "analysis" is that the gap between Republican and Democratic deaths tracked CLOSELY until AFTER the VACCINE became available.

IF it was SOLELY due to age discrepancies, then the larger gap would have been there from the START.

Mistakes like ^this is what happens when you go searching (in vain) for ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATIONS to serve YOUR AGENDA.

Oh, and Republicans watch Fox which has been on an anti-vax crusade since it came out. Maybe you can explain WHY, since the vax works.

At the start of covid most of the deaths were in New York, which is a Dem majority state. Especially inner city people, IE the ones who "rode the NYC subway like usual", as per DeBlasio's orders, also tend to be majority Dem voters. 

If you look at the graph below, you can see the separation between GOP and Dem voters started in Sept of 2020, when there was no vaccine. There was not a single double-vaxed person on the planet, and yet the gap was already there.

What could a gap that large possibly have to do with the vaccine before anyone even had it, genius? Not a single thing. And just remember it was "the Trump vax". The main outspoken vax skeptics at that point were Biden and Harris. Republicans/conservatives weren't actually against vax-Naziism at that point because it didn't exist. We all held out hope that the jab might end covid.

The split among conservatives and leftists came when the data started roling in, showing that it had serious side-effects and it didn't really work. 

The only thing that really changed in Dec 2020 was that hospitals actually started discriminating against unvaccinated people. 

People who were not vaxed weren't allowed to get their kidney transplants, etc.

What you are likely seeing in 2022 in that excess mortality graph is "excess deaths due to vax-Naziism". 

Edited October 8, 2022 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Except EVERYONE HERE (outside his cult) KNOWS Trump LIES like a sack of potato (gratuitous Russian dig ). 

Your lies about Trump are duly noted, but in all honesty, Biden is the one who is actually known to be the biggest liar.

Him and the Dems tell outrageous lies on every topic. Material lies - IE lies that really matter in an important way. 

This is nothing like "Trump may have lied, because hi def cameras may have caught 11 tiny raindrops in 17 minutes", it's lies like "I wasn't aware that my son was receiving millions of dollars from foreign countries while he was flying around on AF2 with me."

Hillary's lies about Benghazi were off the charts.

Biden lied about who he killed with his drone strike. It was just a family, not a bunch of terrorists. Final score in Afghanistan: Al Qaeda killed 13 Americans, and they also got Biden to kill a bunch of children. 

Al Qaeda 20 : Biden zero. 

Cuomo banned infected seniors from being tested for covid before they were sent back into care homes, then fudged death stats to make it seem like they were all just dying in hospitals. That wasn't even a big deal to Dems - they canned him for "possibly grabbing some ass". There's not a lie in the western world that even compares to that. It was an atrocity. But Dems just ignore it. They worthless pieces of sh__, period. 

[WestCanMan]

46 minutes ago, DONKIROCK said:

It's the Democrats.

You will be hard pressed to find any Trump supporters openly, obviously and obnoxiously (or even  covertly) pushing for war.

I know Graham is all-in. I dunno about guys like DeSantis, Cotton, Cruz, Hawley, Paul, Rubio, Gaetz, Jordan and Crenshaw. 

[robosmith]

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

At the start of covid most of the deaths were in New York, which is a Dem majority state. Especially inner city people, IE the ones who "rode the NYC subway like usual", as per DeBlasio's orders, also tend to be majority Dem voters. 

The study analyzed FL and OH. NY was NOT included.

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If you look at the graph below, you can see the separation between GOP and Dem voters started in Sept of 2020, when there was no vaccine. There was not a single double-vaxed person on the planet, and yet the gap was already there.

ONLY the peak TEMPORARILY diverged PRIOR to the vaccine. AFTER vax it was continuous.

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

What could a gap that large possibly have to do with the vaccine before anyone even had it, genius? Not a single thing. And just remember it was "the Trump vax". The main outspoken vax skeptics at that point were Biden and Harris. Republicans/conservatives weren't actually against vax-Naziism at that point because it didn't exist. We all held out hope that the jab might end covid.

Biden and Harris ONLY objected due to Trump's ATTEMPTED manipulation of the release date to serve his campaign. 

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The split among conservatives and leftists came when the data started roling in, showing that it had serious side-effects and it didn't really work. 

The graph shows a split. We KNOW the Republicans are watching Fox and BELIEVE their anti-vax BULLSHIT.

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The only thing that really changed in Dec 2020 was that hospitals actually started discriminating against unvaccinated people. 

People who were not vaxed weren't allowed to get their kidney transplants, etc.

BS. If I need a vaccine to get a kidney transplant, I'm getting the vaccine.

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

What you are likely seeing in 2022 in that excess mortality graph is "excess deaths due to vax-Naziism".

"Likely"? I'm convinced. NOT.

Meanwhile the graph clearly shows that the GAP WIDENS as more people get vaccinated.

Are you sure you're a statistician? Do statistics LIE?

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

 

 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

We agree on one thing.

I don't think "NATO" wants war. It's 30 countries or so. Of course a lot of them don't want it. 

Biden?

The Ukrainians and Russians already worked on a peace settlement in Turkey, and Russia's demands weren't so bad.

Accepting the loss of Crimea was already a foregone conclusion. It's just Donbass that's a sticking point.  

 

The US is not willing to lose face against Russia. They don't care how many Ukrainians have to die. They're willing to risk war with Russia. It's sick. 

 

We really don't know if there was a settlement or what it was but considering the turn this war has taken, the Ukrainians are probably glad they didn't give anything up. They are in a much stronger bargaining position now.

 

Of course the wishes of Ukraine not to be part of Russia is of no account to you. They are the ones doing the fighting, and doing rather well. 

Edited October 8, 2022 by Aristides

[DONKIROCK]

51 minutes ago, Aristides said:

 I don't care if you insult Trudeau. Just pointing out where you are and how stupid you come across lecturing Canadians on their lack of allegiance to the US.

Did you lure me to click on that link so bbn and others could target me with their hacking?

I think Greg should be made aware of this.

[Aristides]

4 minutes ago, DONKIROCK said:

Did you lure me to click on that link so bbn and others could target me with their hacking?

I think Greg should be made aware of this.

Are you always this lost? Explains a lot.

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, DONKIROCK said:

The assumption is that in your opinion, this fine forum allows "knobs."

That's right for a little awhile at least. They all do.