Nationalist Posted September 13, 2022 Report Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: How long does a practice have to be with us before it becomes a tradition? Not sure there's a rule but...dowry is not really a "thing" anymore. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
I am Groot Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 1:44 PM, DogOnPorch said: So homicide is okay under certain circumstances. Are there other times when homicide is permitted? Do you support the death penalty? Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
DogOnPorch Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 Just now, I am Groot said: Do you support the death penalty? No...do you? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
I am Groot Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 1:50 PM, DogOnPorch said: So a fetus isn't human? I don't really have much of a care one way or another on this except I note that everywhere I see heavy pressure to stop abortions I also see heavy pressure from the same people to cut taxes. Especially to those miserable welfare bums who are, in large numbers, single mothers trying to raise the children they didn't abort. It seems to me that the religious right adores fetuses but has little interest in babies or children. Maybe because it costs them nothing to oppose abortion but paying for the food and clothing for babies and children is expensive. 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
DogOnPorch Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 1 minute ago, I am Groot said: I don't really have much of a care one way or another on this except I note that everywhere I see heavy pressure to stop abortions I also see heavy pressure from the same people to cut taxes. Especially to those miserable welfare bums who are, in large numbers, single mothers trying to raise the children they didn't abort. It seems to me that the religious right adores fetuses but has little interest in babies or children. Maybe because it costs them nothing to oppose abortion but paying for the food and clothing for babies and children is expensive. To be anti-fetus is to be anti-human. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
I am Groot Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: To be anti-fetus is to be anti-human. How's this then? We force the mothers to bear the children and then just let them die for lack of food, lack of health care, and lack of basic necessities? Is that more humane? I mean, this seems to be the Republican party's position. Edited September 14, 2022 by I am Groot Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
DogOnPorch Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 1 minute ago, I am Groot said: How's this then? We force the mothers to bear the children and then just let them die for lack of food, lack of health care, and lack of basic necessities? Is that more humane? I mean, this seems to be the Republican party's position. How you treat your kids is your business. I don't recommend starving them as you suggest, though. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
I am Groot Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: How you treat your kids is your business. I see. So it's your business to ensure they're born. Once that's done you wash your hands of the whole thing. Is that right? Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
DogOnPorch Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 Just now, I am Groot said: I see. So it's your business to ensure they're born. Once that's done you wash your hands of the whole thing. Is that right? Seeing that my eldest still has her hand out on occasion, I wish that was true...LOL. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
I am Groot Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: Seeing that my eldest still has her hand out on occasion, I wish that was true...LOL. You'll pay for yours. But will you pay for mine? Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
DogOnPorch Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, I am Groot said: You'll pay for yours. But will you pay for mine? After you starve your kids or before? I'm not paying for a dead one. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
I am Groot Posted September 15, 2022 Report Posted September 15, 2022 19 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: After you starve your kids or before? I'm not paying for a dead one. Well if you'd been willing to at least pay for school lunches maybe it would have survived! Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
blackbird Posted September 15, 2022 Report Posted September 15, 2022 23 hours ago, I am Groot said: Do you support the death penalty? The Bible is clear. The unborn are humans. The idea of putting a time on it is purely man-made or humanism. The Bible shows God recognizes the unborn as a person. That's should be good enough. We don't make our definitions of who is a person. The Bible also says in Genesis that murder is punishable by death. Murder and abortion are related in that both involve killing an innocent human. But there is the death penalty for murder in some places or there used to be. The death penalty in certain cases cannot be wrong if the Bible allowed it in Genesis. See Genesis 9:6 KJV. If one doesn't believe in God (Jesus) and the Bible, he is on the wrong road to destruction. Death will be a fearful thing. Quote
I am Groot Posted September 16, 2022 Report Posted September 16, 2022 18 hours ago, blackbird said: The Bible is clear. The unborn are humans. The bible is very definitely NOT clear. And it never mentions abortions, per se. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
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