Is the United States becoming Lebanon?

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

No you stunning genius.  Convicted of lying to the investigators about Russian contacts during their investigation investigation is what Im talking about. 

Lying... LMAO.

If you've been following this as closely as you claim to be then you know that FBI members were the ones caught doing the actual, serious lying, as in lying straight to the FISA court and tampering with witness statements, and that what they called a 'lie' from Michael Flynn was better than any answer that they ever got from Comey, Clapper, Brennan or Hillary. 

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You’re trying to argue that a bunch of people convicted of dumping a body and concealing evidence of its murder are completely innocent and have nothing to do with the actual murder. And nobody is buying it. 

There's no actual 'dead body' here Beaver Fever. Just because the Russians did some things which Hilary and the FBI didn't like doesn't mean that Trump put them up to it. If it did mean that then they could get any candidate that they want disqualified just by helping them, do you understand that? 

Evidence of collusion looks like: "We found an email or recorded a phone conversation or someone admitted to being a go-between for the Trump campaign and _________________". That's it. Collusion is when two parties mutually agree to work together on something, not when one party unilaterally acts in a way that helps the other. Do you understand that? 

Or it looks like "He was caught secretly funnelling money through Perkins Coie to Christopher Steele who gave it to Russian nationals for this compilation of smears, right here in our hand, which he then turned over to the FBI, and then members of the FBI held a public smear campaign disguised as an investigation, and they tampered with witness statements & evidence, and made some glaring omissions in their warrant requests that were submitted to the FISA Court so that they could spy on Trump's political rival." 

That would be "case closed". 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Omg you actually used DonaldJTrump.com as a source to prove Donald JTrump did a good job handling the virus. 
 

1) It's a far more reliable source than CNN and 2) your ad-hominem attack is worthless. I have put CNN BS to rest here hundreds of times. If you'd like to cite some inaccuracies within that list then go for it. Otherwise it stands as the statement of record. 

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Ridiculous. As is HCQ as a treatment or a cure. And injecting “disinfectants” 

Ridiculous is the fact that you can't understand what I wrote there. Or Pathetic is more like it. 

The simple fact of the matter, which is beyond dispute, is that HCQ has been used safely for over half a century, it is a cheap off-patent drug, and the second Trump said it there was widespread disinformation about HCQ's side-effects coming from all over the place.

That should alarm you, but you'd rather stick your head in the sand and rehash your stupid accusation. 

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And your Cuomo-DiBlasio ranting is equally retarded considering most of the worst-hit states have been red states for months now

check out this cool animation:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.wkyc.com/amp/article/news/verify/verify-where-viral-covid-case-partisanship-state-chart-gets-numbers/507-1bf0dc17-ce06-4549-8452-3318b8f71cfd

1) I don't doubt that your graphic is cute, but 15,000 more NYers died than residents of any other state. 

One of the first things that you should probably try to grasp about statistics is that actual dead bodies are ver significant. Maybe more significant than most other things that you could name. So stop being retarded. 

2) You say "Cuomo's 'Euthanasia Days' at the NY State raisin ranches was no big deal because other states have a lot of positive tests right now"............ LMAO!!!!!!! Can you imagine if Trump did something that stupid? Of course he hasn't, almost no one in the history earth actually has, aside from Tedros when he said "Let those infected travellers from China into all of your countries and don't wear masks". 

That was beyond stupid. The guy has one job, he get a budget in the billions of USD to do it, and when it's time to say the basic things that every mom on earth knows are right, he says the exact wrong thing. Of all the world leaders out there, only Trudeau was dumb enough to follow his advice verbatim.

Cuomo/Tedros/Trudeau: "So there's a fire in your kitchen, do you have any gasoline to throw on it? No? OK, it's really important that you overtly display the fact that you're not being racist right now. Just open all the windows and lock the elderly family members inside the house. We'll head over there after lunch break."

[mowich]

Well at least one group of people are pretty happy today.  All those construction workers busily boarding up businesses and storefronts across America today.  Smart thinking on the part of businesses many of whom have already seen an estimated 1 billion dollars in insured losses from riot related property damage and theft - the costliest civil unrest in US history.  

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[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, mowich said:

Well at least one group of people are pretty happy today.  All those construction workers busily boarding up businesses and storefronts across America today.  Smart thinking on the part of businesses many of whom have already seen an estimated 1 billion dollars in insured losses from riot related property damage and theft - the costliest civil unrest in US history.  

I think we all know which side of the aisle they're expecting rioting and looting to come from....

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

If you've been following this as closely as you claim to be then you know that FBI members were the ones caught doing the actual, serious lying, as in lying straight to the FISA court and tampering with witness statements, and that what they called a 'lie' from Michael Flynn was better than any answer that they ever got from Comey, Clapper, Brennan or Hillary. 

Other that Clinesmith altering an email to say Page had not been a source to the CIA what are you referring to?

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

There's no actual 'dead body' here Beaver Fever. Just because the Russians did some things which Hilary and the FBI didn't like doesn't mean that Trump put them up to it. If it did mean that then they could get any candidate that they want disqualified just by helping them, do you understand that? 

Evidence of collusion looks like: "We found an email or recorded a phone conversation or someone admitted to being a go-between for the Trump campaign and _________________". That's it. Collusion is when two parties mutually agree to work together on something, not when one party unilaterally acts in a way that helps the other. Do you understand that? 

Trump didn’t put Russia up to it, Trump took orders from Russia not the other way around   Its pretty clear that the Trump campaign was coordinating its activities with Russia and had inside knowledge about the DNC hack. They were also admit they met with emissaries of the Russian government in Trump tower to try and get dirt on Hillary but it failed so no harm no foul. Like of you try to murder someone and fail it’s not a crime right?  Pfft.  You claim all their meetings with Russians were innocent.  Why the fuck else are they having so many meetings with Russians during an election?

In the rest of you steele dossier diatribe you conveniently leave out the part the whole investigation started when a drunk papadoupoulos bragged about colluding with Russia to an Aussie diplomat who tipped off the US gov  

 

 

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It's a far more reliable source than CNN

Hilarious that you think Trumps website would be an accurate and impartial review of Trumps performance. It’s beyond retarded. Enough said. 
 

HCQ is not an effective treatment for COVID and it has serious side effects.  That drug is needed to treat other conditions.  Trump is not a doctor and should not be giving medical advice to his idiotic followers and was rightly criticized for plugging it. Unfortunately like Trumps sharpie-altered weather map when criticized he doubled down on his baseless claim.  And his retarded followers made HCQ a conservative virtue-signalling identity issue and kept pushing it. Millions of tax dollars were wasted on the wild goose chase when he forced government agencies to pursue HCQ tests to cover up his idiocy

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't doubt that your graphic is cute, but 15,000 more NYers died than residents of any other state. 

One of the first things that you should probably try to grasp about statistics is that actual dead bodies are ver significant. Maybe more significant than most other things that you could name. So stop being retarded.

 

You ate the one being retarded with you cherry-picked stats that are beyond idiotic.   NYC is America’s largest and most densely populated city and also a global capital so it was hit first and hardest in the early days when little was known about the virus like I said the red-states have been the worst covid performers for almost 6 months now despite having several more months of warning before being hit and not being global magnet cities or having anywhere near the same population or density?

I can’t even understand the rest of your rant it is so unhinged its barely intelligible English. 

[-TSS-]

I'm not old enough to remember LBJ but those who are tell that he was a total prick. Many people have said that only the hatred towards Trump has been comparable to how people felt about LBJ. 

[Argus]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

1) FYI infections per million people is mainly a function of population density and testing and 2) America is a far more popular travel destination for Chinese flyers than any of those countries. It's by far the largest non-Asian destination for Chinese air travel.

I don't think you quite understand the graphic. It is the worst countries in the world for infections per population. Everyone not on the chart is better. The US is better than only five third world countries.

[Argus]

Just now, -TSS- said:

I'm not old enough to remember LBJ but those who are tell that he was a total prick. Many people have said that only the hatred towards Trump has been comparable to how people felt about LBJ. 

LBJ WAS a total prick. But he was also extremely competent. He knew how Washington and politics worked and knew how to get legislation through congress. He was a very smart guy and his administration was full of pros.

I dislike Trump because he's a total prick. But I want him gone because he and his administration are totally incompetent.

Not to mention he's clearly living in terror that Putin will release some of the info he has on Trump's money laundering activities with Russian oligarchs from before he entered politics.

[DogOnPorch]

8 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

I'm not old enough to remember LBJ but those who are tell that he was a total prick. Many people have said that only the hatred towards Trump has been comparable to how people felt about LBJ. 

 

LBJ...besides being a Democrat...gave us the Viet-Nam War.

[WestCanMan]

55 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Other that Clinesmith altering an email to say Page had not been a source to the CIA what are you referring to?

On Fox News they were saying that Andrew McCabe had been caught tampering with witness statements and that he would be fired before his retirement date, which was on that Friday. He was fired before the Friday. 

It's possible that they were wrong, and I haven't heard much about the witness statements since then, but McCabe did something big to get fired within a couple days of his retirement. 

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Trump didn’t put Russia up to it, Trump took orders from Russia not the other way around  

LOL. Russian made Trump become POTUS lol. Conspiracy theory much?

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the DNC hack.

The President of CrowdStrike admitted under oath that he never had actual proof that the DNC server was hacked and the FBI never got their hands on the actual server. That is a false statement.

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They were also admit they met with emissaries of the Russian government in Trump tower to try and get dirt on Hillary but it failed so no harm no foul. Like of you try to murder someone and fail it’s not a crime right?  Pfft.  You claim all their meetings with Russians were innocent.  Why the fuck else are they having so many meetings with Russians during an election?

The "Russians" met with the FBI the day before and the day after that 'meeting'. It was a setup. 

And FYI it's not a crime to agree to come listen to someone who says that they have evidence of a crime. Of course they went. Everyone who's saying that appears to be some kind of crime is just an idiot. 

If the Chinese Gov't said that they had evidence of a crime do you think that the Dems wouldn't go check it out?

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In the rest of you steele dossier diatribe you conveniently leave out the part the whole investigation started when a drunk papadoupoulos bragged about colluding with Russia to an Aussie diplomat who tipped off the US gov  

But Papadopopolus never said that Trump was colluding with Russia at that time. We know that because the conversations were recorded and the FBI had access to them.

One of the major charges against the FBI for withholding exculpatory evidence was the fact that they kept the content of Ppd's conversations secret from the FISA Court.

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Hilarious that you think Trumps website would be an accurate and impartial review of Trumps performance. It’s beyond retarded. Enough said.  

Hilarious that you still don't have a single inaccuracy to point out yet you're just determined to say that it's inaccurate. 

That's what's actually beyond retarded. You've had two chances to question the facts yet you just run your mouth and drivel on like a typical leftist. 

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HCQ is not an effective treatment for COVID and it has serious side effects.  That drug is needed to treat other conditions.  Trump is not a doctor and should not be giving medical advice to his idiotic followers and was rightly criticized for plugging it. Unfortunately like Trumps sharpie-altered weather map when criticized he doubled down on his baseless claim.  And his retarded followers made HCQ a conservative virtue-signalling identity issue and kept pushing it. Millions of tax dollars were wasted on the wild goose chase when he forced government agencies to pursue HCQ tests to cover up his idiocy

OMG you're stretching in every direction now to lend credibility to your stupid claim from earlier.

HCQ has some moderately serious side effects when it's taken for more than 5 years consecutively. That's it. 

FYI Trump didn't commission the first HCQ trials, that came out of France. The fact is that as soon as that study came out, people who literally had no involvement whatsoever with it instantly came out with lies about HCQ. 

You keep using words like retarded and idiotic when you're 100% wrong. No surprise there.

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You ate the one being retarded with you cherry-picked stats that are beyond idiotic.   NYC is America’s largest and most densely populated city and also a global capital so it was hit first and hardest in the early days when little was known about the virus like I said the red-states have been the worst covid performers for almost 6 months now despite having several more months of warning before being hit and not being global magnet cities or having anywhere near the same population or density?

It seems like you may have finally learned something in all your time here, from reading my last post about the correlation between population density and viral spread. Congrats Beaver, I didn't think you had it in you. 

Funny how you're only willing to acknowledge though when it's convenient for defending a leftist governor, but it has a negligible effect on the spread of the virus when you're talking about the GOP President though. LMAO.

2 things: 1) The Tokyo MSA makes NYC look like a ghost town. There are 40M people there, and yet there are less than 2K C19 deaths in all of Japan. That's what happens when you don't have guys like DeBlasio and Cuomo doing everything in their power to spread the virus. 

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I can’t even understand the rest of your rant it is so unhinged its barely intelligible English.

I can only explain it to you, I can't understand it for you. 

 

[BeaverFever]

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

On Fox News they were saying that Andrew McCabe had been caught tampering with witness statements and that he would be fired before his retirement date, which was on that Friday. He was fired before the Friday. 

It's possible that they were wrong, and I haven't heard much about the witness statements since then, but McCabe did something big to get fired within a couple days of his retirement. 

For fucks sake TRUMP Ordered him fired. Get it?  McCabe was fired BY TRUMP!!!  Politically motivated termination is not proof of wrongdoing. Trump admin obviously tipped off Fox as they often do. 

 

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The President of CrowdStrike admitted under oath that he never had actual proof that the DNC server was hacked and the FBI never got their hands on the actual server. That is a false statement.

So why does it say this right on the Crowdstrike website:

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC? 

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.

Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network.

 

To reference, CrowdStrike’s account of their DNC investigation, published on June 14, 2016, “CrowdStrike Services Inc., our Incident Response group, was called by the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the formal governing body for the US Democratic Party, to respond to a suspected breach. We deployed our IR team and technology and immediately identified two sophisticated adversaries on the network – COZY BEAR and FANCY BEAR…. At DNC, COZY BEAR intrusion has been identified going back to summer of 2015, while FANCY BEAR separately breached the network in April 2016.”

This conclusion has most recently been supported by the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issuing a report [intelligence.senate.gov] validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community, published on January 6, 2017,  that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.

The Senate report states on page 48:

“The Committee found that specific intelligence as well as open source assessments support the assessment that President Putin approved and directed aspects of this influence campaign.”

Furthermore, in his testimony in front of the House Intelligence Committee, Shawn Henry stated the following with regards to CrowdStrike’s degree of confidence that the intrusion activity can be attributed to Russia, cited from page 24:

1. HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government.  And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence. 

Have any other organizations concluded that Russia was behind the DNC hack?

Yes. CrowdStrike’s conclusion that Russia was behind the DNC hack is supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and also by independent Congressional reports. Most recently, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report in April 2020 that validated the previous conclusions of theIntelligence Community Assessment, published on January 6, 2017, all concluding that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.

• Page 157 of the Senate report states that the Select Committee on Intelligence “conducted an extensive examination of the intelligence demonstrating Russia’s intrusions into DNC networks.“ Senator Richard Burr (R – North Carolina), who served as Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time the report was issued, confirmed this finding: “The Committee found no reason to dispute the Intelligence Community’s conclusions.”
• The Intelligence Community Assessment, published on January 6, 2017 also confirms that Russia was behind the DNC hack, stating on page 2 of the report: “In July 2015, Russian intelligence gained access to Democratic National Committee (DNC) networks and maintained that access until at least June 2016. This unclassified ODNI report was based on extensive classified intelligence collected by the CIA, NSA, and FBI; the ODNI determined the classified intelligence should not be released in order to protect the sensitive sources and methods by which it was collected.

It’s also worth noting that other security companies, including Fidelis and FireEye have supported CrowdStrike’s analysis.

Does CrowdStrike have evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC network?

Yes. Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32)  and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, theIntelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.”

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The "Russians" met with the FBI the day before and the day after that 'meeting'. It was a setup. 

And FYI it's not a crime to agree to come listen to someone who says that they have evidence of a crime. Of course they went. Everyone who's saying that appears to be some kind of crime is just an idiot. 

If the Chinese Gov't said that they had evidence of a crime do you think that the Dems wouldn't go check it out?

1) I call bullshit on the FBI meeting claim and

2) the Russians didn’t have evidence of a crime they just claimed to have dirt that would damage Hillary’s campaign

3) if a foreign government claims to have evidence of a crime committed by a political candidate, they should be reporting to authorities not the campaign team of the opposing candidate and the Trump team should also be reporting the contract to authorities not hiding and lying about the meeting as the Trumpsters did  

4) The Russians wanted to trade the dirt for a promise to kill the Magnitsky Act if elected 

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

But Papadopopolus never said that Trump was colluding with Russia at that time. We know that because the conversations were recorded and the FBI had access to them.

One of the major charges against the FBI for withholding exculpatory evidence was the fact that they kept the content of Ppd's conversations secret from the FISA Court.

AFAIK this isn’t correct. and is just all Spygate conspiracy theory nonsense. There certainly wasn’t a recording  when drunk Ppd was running his mouth to the Australian which started this whole thing. 
 

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Hilarious that you still don't have a single inaccuracy to point out yet you're just determined to say that it's inaccurate. 

That's what's actually beyond retarded. You've had two chances to question the facts yet you just run your mouth and drivel on like a typical leftist. 

Dude if you think DonaldJTrump.com provides an unbiased review of DonaldJTrump you’re retarded. Go find another source. 
 

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG you're stretching in every direction now to lend credibility to your stupid claim from earlier.

HCQ has some moderately serious side effects when it's taken for more than 5 years consecutively. That's it. 

FYI Trump didn't commission the first HCQ trials, that came out of France. The fact is that as soon as that study came out, people who literally had no involvement whatsoever with it instantly came out with lies about HCQ. 

You keep using words like retarded and idiotic when you're 100% wrong. No surprise there.

FACT:  HCQ is useless for treating COVID. Scientists are free to experiment if they wish and they can publish their findings for other scientists to review.  

FACT: Trump the idiot isn’t a doctor or a scientist and shouldn’t have been promoting it.  That’s not his fucking job.

FACT:  Trump was wrong about HCQ

And after he shot his mouth off he made it into a big thing by doubling down on it.  

 

FACT:  Government agencies were forced to spend millions on HCQ experiments even after determining it was of no benefit just because retarded and idiotic President Snowflake got his feelings hurt and need to always pretend he’s right. 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

It seems like you may have finally learned something in all your time here, from reading my last post about the correlation between population density and viral spread. Congrats Beaver, I didn't think you had it in you. 

Funny how you're only willing to acknowledge though when it's convenient for defending a leftist governor, but it has a negligible effect on the spread of the virus when you're talking about the GOP President though. LMAO.

2 things: 1) The Tokyo MSA makes NYC look like a ghost town. There are 40M people there, and yet there are less than 2K C19 deaths in all of Japan. That's what happens when you don't have guys like DeBlasio and Cuomo doing everything in their power to spread the virus. 

WTF are you talking about?  We’re not comparing NYC and Japan, way to move the goalposts!

Were comparing NYC to red state cities and again whats the  red state excuse for their awful performance?

I remember you trying to use Canadas national population density to explain our better results as if Canadians are all evenly spaced out across the arctic tundra but we also live in densely populated metropolitan areas.  

Red states are the least densely populated yet have been doing the worst for the past 4-5 months despite having the most time to prepare. What’s their excuse??

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I can only explain it to you,

Can you though?

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

For fucks sake TRUMP Ordered him fired. Get it?  McCabe was fired BY TRUMP!!!  Politically motivated termination is not proof of wrongdoing. Trump admin obviously tipped off Fox as they often do. 

 

So why does it say this right on the Crowdstrike website:

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC? 

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.

Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network.

 

To reference, CrowdStrike’s account of their DNC investigation, published on June 14, 2016, “CrowdStrike Services Inc., our Incident Response group, was called by the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the formal governing body for the US Democratic Party, to respond to a suspected breach. We deployed our IR team and technology and immediately identified two sophisticated adversaries on the network – COZY BEAR and FANCY BEAR…. At DNC, COZY BEAR intrusion has been identified going back to summer of 2015, while FANCY BEAR separately breached the network in April 2016.”

This conclusion has most recently been supported by the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issuing a report [intelligence.senate.gov] validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community, published on January 6, 2017,  that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.

The Senate report states on page 48:

“The Committee found that specific intelligence as well as open source assessments support the assessment that President Putin approved and directed aspects of this influence campaign.”

Furthermore, in his testimony in front of the House Intelligence Committee, Shawn Henry stated the following with regards to CrowdStrike’s degree of confidence that the intrusion activity can be attributed to Russia, cited from page 24:

1. HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government.  And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence. 

Have any other organizations concluded that Russia was behind the DNC hack?

Yes. CrowdStrike’s conclusion that Russia was behind the DNC hack is supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and also by independent Congressional reports. Most recently, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report in April 2020 that validated the previous conclusions of theIntelligence Community Assessment, published on January 6, 2017, all concluding that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.

• Page 157 of the Senate report states that the Select Committee on Intelligence “conducted an extensive examination of the intelligence demonstrating Russia’s intrusions into DNC networks.“ Senator Richard Burr (R – North Carolina), who served as Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time the report was issued, confirmed this finding: “The Committee found no reason to dispute the Intelligence Community’s conclusions.”
• The Intelligence Community Assessment, published on January 6, 2017 also confirms that Russia was behind the DNC hack, stating on page 2 of the report: “In July 2015, Russian intelligence gained access to Democratic National Committee (DNC) networks and maintained that access until at least June 2016. This unclassified ODNI report was based on extensive classified intelligence collected by the CIA, NSA, and FBI; the ODNI determined the classified intelligence should not be released in order to protect the sensitive sources and methods by which it was collected.

It’s also worth noting that other security companies, including Fidelis and FireEye have supported CrowdStrike’s analysis.

Does CrowdStrike have evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC network?

Yes. Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32)  and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, theIntelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.”

1) I call bullshit on the FBI meeting claim and

2) the Russians didn’t have evidence of a crime they just claimed to have dirt that would damage Hillary’s campaign

3) if a foreign government claims to have evidence of a crime committed by a political candidate, they should be reporting to authorities not the campaign team of the opposing candidate and the Trump team should also be reporting the contract to authorities not hiding and lying about the meeting as the Trumpsters did  

4) The Russians wanted to trade the dirt for a promise to kill the Magnitsky Act if elected 

AFAIK this isn’t correct. and is just all Spygate conspiracy theory nonsense. There certainly wasn’t a recording  when drunk Ppd was running his mouth to the Australian which started this whole thing. 
 

Dude if you think DonaldJTrump.com provides an unbiased review of DonaldJTrump you’re retarded. Go find another source. 
 

FACT:  HCQ is useless for treating COVID. Scientists are free to experiment if they wish and they can publish their findings for other scientists to review.  

FACT: Trump the idiot isn’t a doctor or a scientist and shouldn’t have been promoting it.  That’s not his fucking job.

FACT:  Trump was wrong about HCQ

And after he shot his mouth off he made it into a big thing by doubling down on it.  

 

FACT:  Government agencies were forced to spend millions on HCQ experiments even after determining it was of no benefit just because retarded and idiotic President Snowflake got his feelings hurt and need to always pretend he’s right. 

WTF are you talking about?  We’re not comparing NYC and Japan, way to move the goalposts!

Were comparing NYC to red state cities and again whats the  red state excuse for their awful performance? 

Red states are the least densely populated yet have been doing the worst for the past 4-5 months despite having the most time to prepare. What’s their excuse??

Can you though?

You're coming unglued dude. 

Re: McCabe: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/12/ex-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-loses-bid-to-avoid-prosecution.html 

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Former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe has failed in his efforts to convince the Justice Department not to file potential criminal charges against him for allegedly lying to federal agents, NBC News reported Thursday.

Regardless of who fired McCabe, it had to be done. 

Re: Crowdstrike, stop trying to pretend that something is a fact when the only person on earth who can say it's a fact says it's not a fact. 

Pres of CrowdStrike says that they don't know for sure that the emails were hacked. 1) No one knows better than Henry, and he says that tey don't know, period. He said it under oath. Period. 2) The source of the emails said that they were leaked, not hacked. Assange isn't popular because a lot of people don't like what he leaked, but he hasn't been caught lying about his sources yet. 3) The leaks happened just after we all found out that the DNC conspired against Bernie, and Bernie has over 50% of the grassroots support in the Dem party. All it takes is one leaker.

 

FYI Re: covid, every single thing I said was true. Cry if you want, I don't really care.

Fact is that Trump fought covid, I posted the evidence and you have no corrections to make to it.

The Dems promoted disastrous advice and put infected people back into care homes with disastrous results. Cuomo literally killed 10's of thousands of people with his atrocious decisions. If Trump put infected people into care homes you'd care. 

NYC deaths didn't have to be nearly as high as they were. 

Who cares how many C19 cases there are in red states now? 15,000 extra deaths in NY is still the crowning achievement of Cuomo and DeBlasio.

And what makes you think that red states dominate in this area? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ 

California has twice as many cases as anyone right now - blue. Virginia is another blue state, so the Dems have 2 of the top 4 states for C19. The MSAs of Houston and Dallas both have as many people as the whole state of Virginia, and Texas has 12,000 less active cases than Virginia....

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I remember you trying to use Canadas national population density to explain our better results as if Canadians are all evenly spaced out across the arctic tundra but we also live in densely populated metropolitan areas.

Canada didn't have "better results", based on our huge natural advantage due to our extremely low pop density. We did extremely poorly.

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14 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

LBJ...besides being a Democrat...gave us the Viet-Nam War.

That was Kennedy. I remember reading a bio at some point where they said he never would have allowed himself to get drawn in as far as LBJ though.

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9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Re: McCabe: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/12/ex-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-loses-bid-to-avoid-prosecution.html 

What exactly do you think that story proves?

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Re: Crowdstrike, stop trying to pretend that something is a fact when the only person on earth who can say it's a fact says it's not a fact. 

Dude I don’t know where you get your garbage info but I gave you a direct lino to crowd strikes website and fucking quoted them extensively where they said  there was evidence it was hacked.  How much of a mindless sheep cult-follower do you have to be to keep believing otherwise?

 

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI Re: covid, every single thing I said was true. Cry if you want, I don't really care.

Fact is that Trump fought covid, I posted the evidence and you have no corrections to make to it.

The Dems promoted disastrous advice and put infected people back into care homes with disastrous results. Cuomo literally killed 10's of thousands of people with his atrocious decisions. If Trump put infected people into care homes you'd care. 

NYC deaths didn't have to be nearly as high as they were. 

Who cares how many C19 cases there are in red states now? 15,000 extra deaths in NY is still the crowning achievement of Cuomo and DeBlasio.

Fucking hilarious. Play Monday morning quarterback and Cherry pick facts from 6 months ago at the very statrt of the pandemic when the world was caught by surprise and little was known about C19 while totally ignoring the successful actions NYC took and disastrous actions red states have taken since then and continue to take. 

 

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

And what makes you think that red states dominate in this area? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ 

California has twice as many cases as anyone right now - blue. Virginia is another blue state, so the Dems have 2 of the top 4 states for C19. The MSAs of Houston and Dallas both have as many people as the whole state of Virginia, and Texas has 12,000 less active cases than Virginia....

Again cherry picking. Sort that list by cases per 1M pop and red states are 18 of the top 20 states. You have wisconsin at #4 and rhode island at 18 that’s it. 

 

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Canada didn't have "better results", based on our huge natural advantage due to our extremely low pop density. We did extremely poorly.

OMG do you seriously think Canadians are evenly spaced out across the vast arctic tundra or something?  We live and work in densely populated urban areas no different than Americans.  There’s no “huge natural advantage”. 
 

The only density that matters other than the density of conservative skulls is the density of cities where people actually live not the density of the whole fucking country including uninhabited wilderness.  How do you not figure that out on your own?

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1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

What exactly do you think that story proves?

Dude I don’t know where you get your garbage info but I gave you a direct lino to crowd strikes website and fucking quoted them extensively where they said  there was evidence it was hacked.  How much of a mindless sheep cult-follower do you have to be to keep believing otherwise?

 

Fucking hilarious. Play Monday morning quarterback and Cherry pick facts from 6 months ago at the very statrt of the pandemic when the world was caught by surprise and little was known about C19 while totally ignoring the successful actions NYC took and disastrous actions red states have taken since then and continue to take. 

 

Again cherry picking. Sort that list by cases per 1M pop and red states are 18 of the top 20 states. You have wisconsin at #4 and rhode island at 18 that’s it. 

 

OMG do you seriously think Canadians are evenly spaced out across the vast arctic tundra or something?  We live and work in densely populated urban areas no different than Americans.  There’s no “huge natural advantage”. 
 

The only density that matters other than the density of conservative skulls is the density of cities where people actually live not the density of the whole fucking country including uninhabited wilderness.  How do you not figure that out on your own?

1) It proves that the only person who could definitively say 'hacked' said 'can't say' when he was under oath. 

Your burning desire to change his answer is duly noted though.

2) Hilarious is you not acknowledging that putting sick people back in care homes was bad, or that leaving direct flights open from China and telling Canadians not to wear masks was bad, or that telling people to ride the subway like usual and hang out in big groups was bad, or that inventing new side effects for a 60 year old drug was bad, etc. 

Take everything that the Dems/Trudeau were saying and doing at the beginning of the pandemic and put it on a scale from 0-idiotic/10-brilliant and see where they all land.... Honestly Cuomo was by far the stupidest of the lot, but Trudeau was only 1/10th of a point behind.

FYI getting it right at the beginning is what a good leader is supposed to do. It's useless having a guy like Trudeau suddenly noticing after two months that our country is getting the world's worst results.

3) To be honest, I don't really care about C19 'infection rates'. I care about the economy now, but blue states still top the list.  

Why don't I care? Because C19 has proven to not be that big of a deal now. If you go to Costco or Save-On and see that guy without a mask, that's me.

The main things to acknowledge about the C19 crisis is that at the beginning, when we had reason to believe it was dangerous, Trump was at least doing some of the right things. Trudeau, Pelosi, DeBlasio and Cuomo were a disaster. So was Biden.

4) No, Canada is not devoid of urban centres and I never said that it was, but for your information the difference between a metro area like Tokyo with Canada's entire population, and Canada's population spread over 10M sq km is off the measurable scale. Ditto for NYC that have over half our country's population in a small area. The US also has LA, Dallas, Houston, Detroit, Chicago, etc, etc, etc.

FYI comparing Canada to DeBlasio/Cuomo's stupidity (and blaming that on Trump) along with the rest of America and their huge amount of urban centres that dwarf all of ours just to make Trudeau 'look good' was entirely dishonest. 

Trudeau shot Canada up into the very top of the C19 death charts at the beginning of the outbreak, and if it was an actual pandemic we would have been entirely screwed by that point. PERIOD. He utterly failed us at the very critical time of the outbreak and only our country's geographically built-in social distancing saved us. 

5) We don't have high density, we have small-scale density. We have a lot of small cities and large towns that don't even have international airports or rapid transit systems, and they're spread out over 10M sq km with just a few major hubs.

NYC metro area's population is spread out over our ENTIRE country minus Ont, Man and Sask. 

I get that you don't understand what kind of a difference that makes, but it's a fact that you need to take my word on.