godzilla Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 Trump kicks off a day of whiplash over future of coronavirus task force Trump says "Dr. Fauci has been great. Since the US will be all back to work by the end of May i'm putting him in charge of my Black voter outreach program right away." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 It is interesting to see how he makes his decisions.  Whiplash  is an understatement. He seems to operate on the whims he wakes p with  in the morning. He seems to operate as if the role of POTUS is one  gigantic  TV series  where the ratings are all that matter.  Now that his valet has the virus....... , will be interesting to see what he does.  besides getting angry and taking it out on those around him or on Twitter.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdot Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Pacifica77 said: It is interesting to see how he makes his decisions.  Whiplash  is an understatement. He seems to operate on the whims he wakes p with  in the morning. He seems to operate as if the role of POTUS is one  gigantic  TV series  where the ratings are all that matter.  Now that his valet has the virus....... , will be interesting to see what he does.  besides getting angry and taking it out on those around him or on Twitter.  This is a pretty deceitful post. Stop flailing, please. Release your deceitful objectives from, Dem's insanity, then you'll see how Trump Derangement Syndrome has consumed your miserable life. Yes. Even a 5yr-old knows that President Trump wouldve just been kidding around even if he did say a CDC expert (Fauci) is being put in charge of negro-vote gathering. The Dems have you and @godzilla so, uptight, to whereas Trump can't even make jokes without you spazzing out. Edited May 8, 2020 by Tdot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, Tdot said: This is a pretty deceitful post. Stop flailing, please. Release your deceitful objectives from, Dem's insanity, then you'll see how Trump Derangement Syndrome has consumed your miserable life. Yes. Even a 5yr-old knows that President Trump wouldve just been kidding around even if he did say a CDC expert (Fauci) is being put in charge of negro-vote gathering. The Dems have you and @godzilla so, uptight, to whereas Trump can't even make jokes without you spazzing out. I am sorry, you feel that way.  You are obviously a Trump supporter..........and that is your choice.  Some of us see hi for what he is. It has nothing to do with party lines.......but everything to do with the fact that he is a troubled man. And an ineffective leader. He is a showman.and has not met a camera he did not like. He is vengeful  and has destroyed a lot of people's careers...... in a cold  and indifferent way. People do not deserve to be treated the way he treats them.  one example of mismanagement: It was not necessary to sideline the CDC they way Trump did.  It is not nec to lash out at the WHO........ in the time of crisis.....when the whole world needs to pull together. This is not a time for binary thinking or behavior. He tries to paint a rosy picture , which only minimizes the severity of the virus.  Why does he have to get in the middle of everything......when it is the experts that need to run this situation. he is not a doctor. He is not a virologist. He is just a TV personality. He should be taking the advice from the experts.......instead of undermining them. ....with his own agenda. I realize that his supporters are rather emphatic in their support of him.  But not everyone has the same view of his performance. It is hoped that he would get his act together  and learn t handle situations other than the economy. This crisis is an opportunity for him......but  so far his actions are less than exemplary.  The sad thing is that he takes no responsibility ....and has said as much.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdot Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Pacifica77 said: I am sorry, you feel that way.  You are obviously a Trump supporter..........and that is your choice.  Some of us see hi for what he is. It has nothing to do with party lines.......but everything to do with the fact that he is a troubled man. And an ineffective leader. He is a showman.and has not met a camera he did not like. He is vengeful  and has destroyed a lot of people's careers...... in a cold  and indifferent way. People do not deserve to be treated the way he treats them.  one example of mismanagement: It was not necessary to sideline the CDC they way Trump did.  It is not nec to lash out at the WHO........ in the time of crisis.....when the whole world needs to pull together. This is not a time for binary thinking or behavior. He tries to paint a rosy picture , which only minimizes the severity of the virus.  Why does he have to get in the middle of everything......when it is the experts that need to run this situation. he is not a doctor. He is not a virologist. He is just a TV personality. He should be taking the advice from the experts.......instead of undermining them. ....with his own agenda. I realize that his supporters are rather emphatic in their support of him.  But not everyone has the same view of his performance. It is hoped that he would get his act together  and learn t handle situations other than the economy. This crisis is an opportunity for him......but  so far his actions are less than exemplary.  The sad thing is that he takes no responsibility ....and has said as much.  Some of us are President Trump supporters because we refuse to do like, you and @godzilla did, when letting deceitful MSM destroy your fairmindedness and also dupe you into falsely defining what Trump does and what he represents. For example, you say he's a troubled man, but you won't dare accept it if you are intelligently/factually proven wrong on every front you hallucinate there ---you instead, will get angry at me for pointing out your falsehoods and how MSM bamboozled you. He's successfully done things no U.S. President has dared even tried in 40+ years including deal making that = best economy in 50 years and challenging China like no USA President has done in 60+years ---oh, but the Dems told you that it makes him an ineffective leader. lol He is a showman, because he uses his bullypulpit to fight back against illegalities and falsehoods that you are okay with? He is a showman, because he's painted that way by his enemies who happen to own 85% of the main stream media cameras portraying him as a showman --yes, just more facts you hate to think about. You say he destroyed a lot of peoples' careers, but then you stay silent on how the Dem's ended a lovely woman's political career just, last week, all because she thanked President Trump for saving her life in her fight against covid 19 yes the Dem's decree is that she now has to switch political parties if she wants to be reelected. Wow. You ever see Trump pull stuff that evil, on people? Plus you are okay with how the Dem's have plotted to destroy the career of all Trump comrades who would not help Dems destroy Trump ---none of Trump's jailed friends, are in jail for acts regarding protecting Trump. tsk tsk.  Look at the news just yesterday/the Dems filed false docx with the FISA court and they illegally entrapped Gen. Flynn to get him sent to prison. And you are okay with these "cold and indifferent" evils ---yet you are quick to say Trump is the one who destroyed careers.  It's laughable. And you're dead wrong that he mismanaged anything ---you're even more, wrong, for refusing to take ownership of the Dems' occupying the nation with an impeachment hoax (SEP - JAN) when the nation could've then had all hands on deck fighting against COVID 19 ... that is the most colossal atrocity but MSM has psyched you into being silent about it. Plus the Dems have duped you into being deceitful about how he treats his Taskforce.  He's never even once, disturbed the recommendations and orders the Taskforce came with. He has a right to criticize and critique, but he never changed them. The Dems fooled you into thinking that him giving his coarse opinion, changed any doctor's orders put forth.  That is your irresponsibility, not Trumps. Birx and Fauci are still there and standing next to Trump, so you have to be honest with yourself about how that cancels out Dem's deceit which has hoodwinked you so far. Edited May 8, 2020 by Tdot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Get off the board its over. Take your fake names and go home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Rue said: Get off the board its over. Take your fake names and go home. Who are you talking to??  That is not a very friendly post . Did not realize this was a Trump supporter board. where  Other views are not welcome....... and treated with disdain.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdot Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rue said: Get off the board its over. Take your fake names and go home. Â Edited May 8, 2020 by Tdot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 19 hours ago, Tdot said: This is a pretty deceitful post. Stop flailing, please. Release your deceitful objectives from, Dem's insanity, then you'll see how Trump Derangement Syndrome has consumed your miserable life. Yes. Even a 5yr-old knows that President Trump wouldve just been kidding around even if he did say a CDC expert (Fauci) is being put in charge of negro-vote gathering. The Dems have you and @godzilla so, uptight, to whereas Trump can't even make jokes without you spazzing out. Trump does not joke. Are we to assume he was joking when she entertained the idea of injecting  disinfectant  to deal with the virus??  Funny thing....... Many took him seriously enough to actually phone the CDC  to  find out how to do it.   Some joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdot Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Pacifica77 said:  Are we to assume he was joking when she entertained the idea of injecting  disinfectant  to deal with the virus??   Go look at the research he was illuminating.  It is real, although he did do some unwise exaggerating a tiny bit. Yes, he was joking only very slightly . Blame the Dems. Because the Dems use their misinformation and propaganda, via the MSM, to cause Trump to resort to these unsavory tactics to fight back. I don't like what he does either, but I understand that it is necessary in order to counter the Dem's Deceit Doctrine he's up against. Edited May 8, 2020 by Tdot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tdot said: Go look at the research he was illuminating.  It is real, although he did do some unwise exaggerating a tiny bit. Yes, he was joking only very slightly . Blame the Dems. Because the Dems use their misinformation and propaganda, via the MSM, to cause Trump to resort to these unsavory tactics to fight back. I don't like what he does either, but I understand that it is necessary in order to counter the Dem's Deceit Doctrine he's up against. I beg to differ. It is NOT necessary at all. It is HIS style......and has been all his adult life.  He might have some good ideas.....but he blows it  due to the fact he is inconsistent. He has one opine one day,  and then does a 360 turn around.......depending on who whispered in his ear in the last ten minutes ..  he tends to conflate, exaggerate, pontificate,  and also distract. None of it is nec in a crisis. When there is a crisis like we are living through....... there is a need for facts, ......not embellishment  .  The question is: why is he so threatened by the dems?? Why does he keep bringing up Obama?? He should be secure enough in himself to handle them in an intelligent mature way without resorting to  playground & twitter bullying.  HE and HE alone sets he tone  for his administration and the nation.  He had a very good Virus task force...........but as soon as they get popular with the population..........he wants to disban it........ even if i t makes no rational sense to d oit. Then he changes his mind.....as the positive  is reflection on him.......in his view....... He is a narcissist. to a pathological degree. He is also paranoid.   and thus cannot be objective.   I know that avid Trump supporters do not want to hear this.  They seem to take the same approach that he does. Lash out  with out regard to the fallout from such lashing out. It is a fascinating psycho-social & cultural  dynamic.  It is a fascinating phase in US history.As the post Trump era will not be the same as the pre Trump era. He is a forceful authoritarian personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Pacifica77 said: I know that avid Trump supporters do not want to hear this.  They seem to take the same approach that he does. Lash out  with out regard to the fallout from such lashing out.  ...and I know that the Trump haters do not want to hear this:   Trump does these things because it works for him and his base of support.  Trump haters consistently fall for the bait, giving him more and more oxygen...even in other nations....like Canada.   Lashing out is not unique to Trump...he just knows how to do it far better to get far more media attention. Hillary Clinton hid from the media....Trump has sex with it...and they love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 A top aide to Vice President Pence tested positive for coronavirus on Friday, making her the second known person working at the White House to contract the illness in the past two days, according to several sources familiar with the situation. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-top-aide-to-vice-president-pence-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/2020/05/08/7d80520c-914e-11ea-a0bc-4e9ad4866d21_story.html?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.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.bUyA0su4yeYQYQEgDLKzcZGlmaRnrkS9W3t107L2Hpk&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&utm_medium=email&utm_source=alert&wpisrc=al_news__alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk=1   Now we have Trump's valet, and Pences aid.  Wonder what precautions the White house is REALLY taking........ as Trump has minimized the virus from the beginning.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:  ...and I know that the Trump haters do not want to hear this:   Trump does these things because it works for him and his base of support.  Trump haters consistently fall for the bait, giving him more and more oxygen...even in other nations....like Canada.   Lashing out is not unique to Trump...he just knows how to do it far better to get far more media attention. Hillary Clinton hid from the media....Trump has sex with it...and they love it. Of course he does it because it "works" f r him.and his base. You have no argument there ;-)  What you are describing is game playing.  Yes......  that is what he does. He plays for attention and media focus.  You are right about that . He is an attention  hog........and just cannot get enough.  Psychologically, that is a disorder. NARCISSISM. I have never seen a case as obvious as him.   Non Trump supporters........ have a say about him too.  It is not about hatred..........it is about observable behavior. that is not becoming to a POTUS. Some of us have higher expectations from the leadership.  Rude and crude & arrogant does not cut it. I feel sorry for him........as he is way out of his depth.....but tries so hard to play the role anyhow.   Edited May 8, 2020 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Quote  Non Trump supporters........ have a say about him too.  It is not about hatred..........it is about observable behavior. that is not becoming to a POTUS. Some of us have higher expectations from the leadership.  Rude and crude & arrogant does not cut it. I feel sorry for him........as he is way out of his depth.....but tries so hard to play the role anyhow.  Well, U.S. presidential history says otherwise....Trump is hardly the worst for demeanor and policy actions.  Trump is just another U.S. president. Your expectations are your own, and not Trump's concern, especially if from another nation. Trump's "style" has been consistent for decades...he is a very well known quantity in the United States and he leveraged his style to pull off one of the biggest political upsets in U.S. history.  Did you really expect him to change after more than 40 years of track record in U.S. culture ?   That's just naive. Trump will win or lose doing things his way, because that is the only way he knows.  Reacting to his antics is exactly what he wants and thrives on. Canada's PM also tries to play a role....smug and ineffective....but Trump still matters more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdot Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pacifica77 said: I beg to differ. It is NOT necessary at all. It is HIS style......and has been all his adult life.  He might have some good ideas.....but he blows it  due to the fact he is inconsistent. He has one opine one day,  and then does a 360 turn around.......depending on who whispered in his ear in the last ten minutes ..  he tends to conflate, exaggerate, pontificate,  and also distract. None of it is nec in a crisis. When there is a crisis like we are living through....... there is a need for facts, ......not embellishment  .  The question is: why is he so threatened by the dems?? Why does he keep bringing up Obama?? He should be secure enough in himself to handle them in an intelligent mature way without resorting to  playground & twitter bullying.  HE and HE alone sets he tone  for his administration and the nation.  He had a very good Virus task force...........but as soon as they get popular with the population..........he wants to disban it........ even if i t makes no rational sense to d oit. Then he changes his mind.....as the positive  is reflection on him.......in his view....... He is a narcissist. to a pathological degree. He is also paranoid.   and thus cannot be objective.   I know that avid Trump supporters do not want to hear this.  They seem to take the same approach that he does. Lash out  with out regard to the fallout from such lashing out. It is a fascinating psycho-social & cultural  dynamic.  It is a fascinating phase in US history.As the post Trump era will not be the same as the pre Trump era. He is a forceful authoritarian personality. lol @ why he's so Paranoid and threatened by the Dems. Here, let me remind you some realities you'd like to forget: The 'tv screen' is the greatest influencer upon the human psyche living within any 1st-World nation. And the Dems control 85% of the MSM, and use it to paint false pictures of Trump which perfectly fool people like you. the Dems promised to impeach him the day after he beat Hillary in 2016. the Dems launched a Russian misinformation scheme, then tried to pin it on Trump to bring him down, while the Dems impeached Trump for exactly, obeying, the USA Constitution when he mentioned Biden family's  corruption, to the Ukraine President. the Dems have sent several of Trump's comrades to prison, for non-Trump crimes, all because they wouldn't help Dems illegally bring Trump down. the Dems now want to try to impeach Trump over his response to the COVID 19 crisis. How can you not be, ashamed, of the Dem party raping America? Edited May 8, 2020 by Tdot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:  Well, U.S. presidential history says otherwise....Trump is hardly the worst for demeanor and policy actions.  Trump is just another U.S. president. Your expectations are your own, and not Trump's concern, especially if from another nation. Trump's "style" has been consistent for decades...he is a very well known quantity in the United States and he leveraged his style to pull off one of the biggest political upsets in U.S. history.  Did you really expect him to change after more than 40 years of track record in U.S. culture ?   That's just naive. Trump will win or lose doing things his way, because that is the only way he knows.  Reacting to his antics is exactly what he wants and thrives on. Canada's PM also tries to play a role....smug and ineffective....but Trump still matters more. Of course Trump matters more to YOU........as he should be. When one likes bully tactics in their leader..........it stands to reason that someone like CDA PM would appear ineffective.  But back to the virus and the handling of same.   Do you think Trump has handled this crisis as well as he should have??  After all he claims to be the world leader........so the world has expectations of him. He sets the tone and example. bTW: Trump is used to playing roles. He is a TV showman. No one expected him to change.....not at his age. But one expected him to learn the job as well as he could have........but he came with his agenda  and decided to change Washington. and he has. In your view , is it for the better?? and yes....he is a master manipulator. This crisis should be bringing ut the best in him .......leadership wise. He has  some good people around him......but can't let go of center stage......and let them do their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, Tdot said: lol @ why he's so Paranoid and threatened by the Dems. Here, let me remind you some realities you'd like to forget: The 'tv screen' is the greatest influencer upon the human psyche living within any 1st-World nation. And the Dems control 85% of the MSM, and use it to paint false pictures of Trump which perfectly fool people like you. the Dems promised to impeach him the day after he beat Hillary in 2016. the Dems launched a Russian misinformation scheme, then tried to pin it on Trump to bring him down, while the Dems impeached Trump for exactly, obeying, the USA Constitution when he mentioned Biden family's  corruption, to the Ukraine President. the Dems have sent several of Trump's comrades to prison, for non-Trump crimes, all because they wouldn't help Dems illegally bring Trump down. the Dems now want to try to impeach Trump over his response to the COVID 19 crisis. How can you not be, ashamed, of the Dem party raping America?  I am ashamed of BOTH parties. Neither one is living up to the  values they PREACH and advertiser. Only one value matters to both......POWER . They just display it in different ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Pacifica77 said: Of course Trump matters more to YOU........as he should be. When one likes bully tactics in their leader..........it stands to reason that someone like CDA PM would appear ineffective.  I don't think you understand my point....Donald Trump dominates topics in this forum even when they about Canada.  Trump dominates Canadian media as well with his "Trumpian" ways.  I have never seen a U.S. president consistently command so much attention from Canada or other nations.  It is remarkable regardless of what one may personally think about Trump. The real question is why Trump matters so much to Canadians.  (Trudeau has been criticized as ineffective in Canada regardless of Trump.)  Quote But back to the virus and the handling of same.  Do you think Trump has handled this crisis as well as he should have??  No...he should have followed his instincts and shut down all travel much sooner...instead he was called a "waycist" and backed down.   The CDC bungled testing in the beginning, so that is on Trump too.   He has still done "better" than several other leaders based on mortality rates (e.g. Europe), and correctly recognizes that the lockdowns are more destructive than the disease....voters are responding to this reality. Other federal and state limits put in place by design would have limited more drastic action by any U.S. president, not just Trump.  Quote After all he claims to be the world leader........so the world has expectations of him. He sets the tone and example.  No, the world claims he is the free world leader because it has none.  Trump is "America First"...not the "World First".   He is only America's leader, and put the world on notice from day one that he would not play the game as before (i.e. "post WW2 order"). Canada and NATO freaked out.  Quote bTW: Trump is used to playing roles. He is a TV showman. No one expected him to change.....not at his age. But one expected him to learn the job as well as he could have........but he came with his agenda  and decided to change Washington. and he has. In your view , is it for the better?? and yes....he is a master manipulator. This crisis should be bringing ut the best in him .......leadership wise. He has  some good people around him......but can't let go of center stage......and let them do their job.  Yes...it is for the better...because Trump is a change agent, even with his rude and crude methods.  That is what he was elected to do....break things in Washington as a populist president, angering the entrenched politicos of D.C.   Trump is a marvelous bastard that way, and it is quite refreshing to see, if only for a single term.  His appointments for federal courts will have the most lasting impact. Canadians and other nationals do not know Trump as well as most (older) Americans...he goes way back to the 1970's public eye and was far better known than the Clintons, Bushes, or Obama.   He is exactly what his supporters (and haters) expected him to be....more authentic even when he "lies" (other career politicians label those as "flip-flops").    Edited May 8, 2020 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdot Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: even when he "lies" (other career politicians label those as "flip-flops").  ...or... perhaps, you too, are comatose from Trump Derangement Syndrome which you accurately described here re: how it haunts deceitful Dems?? It potentially has left you incapable of being fair here by deeming a "flip-flop" as something respectful ---like receiving more info so to fairly make a better-informed decision. But instead, you say he lies. That's not President Trump's fault, that is your unfair mindset. Which prevents you from commending him for responsibly gathering additional info that fairly changed his mind ---thereby helped him make a better-informed opinion. Edited May 8, 2020 by Tdot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) Trump was well known outside the US.  And not very favorably. ' 'In a way : Trump IS the US.  and vice versa. He is the embodiment of many US attitudes  and culture. Yes..of course he is a conversation topic. His bizarre and attention seeking behavior sees to that. He does that deliberately....... and yes...he is a change agent..... No question there....... but  it is is motives that could be question;ed. He tends to operate  on the What is in it for him"... even if it is just a photo  Op. America first translates into Trump first.  What is troubling is his lack of empathy, compassion,  and basic human feelings .  People are people...... and his abusive behavior (verbal and firings)......are cruel.  There is a cruelty to him that is disturbing. It is not role playing it is the real him. Edited May 8, 2020 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Tdot said: ...or... perhaps...You also, are comatose from Trump Derangement Syndrome which you accurately described here as it haunts deceitful Dems?? It potentially has left you incapable of being fair here by deeming a "flip-flop" as something respectful -like receiving more info so to fairly make a better-informed decision, as you say he lies. That's not President Trump's, that is your unfair mindset. Which prevents you from commending him for responsibly gathering additional info that fairly changed his mind ---thereby helped him make a better-informed opinion.  No, it is just a longer view of American political history and dynamics.  All U.S. presidents "lie"...it is part of the job description.   Donald Trump is just another U.S. president, and should not be held to a different standard.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Tdot said: ...or... perhaps, you too, are comatose from Trump Derangement Syndrome which you accurately described here re: how it haunts deceitful Dems?? It potentially has left you incapable of being fair here by deeming a "flip-flop" as something respectful ---like receiving more info so to fairly make a better-informed decision. But instead, you say he lies. That's not President Trump's fault, that is your unfair mindset. Which prevents you from commending him for responsibly gathering additional info that fairly changed his mind ---thereby helped him make a better-informed opinion. Are you playing mind-games??  gaslighting ?? ;-) Edited May 8, 2020 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Just now, Pacifica77 said: Trump was well known outside the US.  And not very favorably. 'In a way : Trump IS the US.  and vice versa. He is the embodiment of many US attitudes  and culture. Yes..of course he is a conversation topic. His bizarre and attention seeking behavior sees to that. He does that deliberately....... and yes...he is a change agent..... No question there....... but  it is is motives that could be question;ed. He tends to operate  on the What is in it for him"... even if it is just a photo  Op. America first translates into Trump first.  So what is the problem ?   JFK nearly started a thermonuclear war after trying to invade Cuba and escalating the war in Vietnam, but he is a beloved president. All presidents are questioned...from many directions.    America should always be about America first.....even Obama thought so (" Buy American").  Quote What is troubling is his lack of empathy, compassion,  and basic human feelings .  People are people...... and his abusive behavior (verbal and firings)......are cruel.  There is a cruelty to him that is disturbing. It is not role playing it is the real him.  Again...so what ?   Trump is not the first "cruel" president....Andrew Jackson and FDR had far worse policies and impact on real lives.   Some people are so triggered by Trump's antics they cannot have a more balanced view based on actual American history.    Trump drives them nuts....because they let him do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:  So what is the problem ?   JFK nearly started a thermonuclear war after trying to invade Cuba and escalating the war in Vietnam, but he is a beloved president. All presidents are questioned...from many directions.    America should always be about America first.....even Obama thought so (" Buy American").   Again...so what ?   Trump is not the first "cruel" president....Andrew Jackson and FDR had far worse policies and impact on real lives.   Some people are so triggered by Trump's antics they cannot have a more balanced view based on actual American history.    Trump drives them nuts....because they let him do it Indeed....so what??  Maybe he drives some people nuts........ but I doubt   it. I think he is such a personality that his personality over shadows his efforts.......  I do think he could have done a much better job  about the virus issue. A leader should set an example.....of behavior  and evidence of what is recommended by the Health experts.  This is a medical crisis...... He does not even follow his own guidelines. ........and should be wearing a mask when he greets people. Particularly now.....with two staffers  resting positive. Did he not meet with some elderly people today........ Why did he not wear a mask ........as they are the vulnerable group. Show some consideration.......for goodness sake. He does make a good c ease study n psychology....... ..  America first??  sure......why not. ? But stay out of other nations  as well. New alliances will for  excluding the US.  Not a biggie. It would be different....but that is life......and change is the constant in life. Edited May 8, 2020 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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