Was Trump Right to De-Fund the WHO, Pending the Results of an Investigation?

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

Wring yer fricken' panties out ya stupid twit obviously I was being sarcastic. It's perfectly clear that if the W.H.O. wanted to spread the virus faster they would do exactly what Trump is alleging, they'd either keep quiet or lie about it.  The problem of course is that you can't be bothered to explain how the W.H.O. was able to get away with that when the place was full of Trump administration officials.

EVERYTHING needs to be investigated and I'll be particularly interested in knowing exactly what the Americans in the W.H.O. knew exactly when they knew it and precisely when they informed their stupid boss. You won't be the slightest bit interested in that investigation though will you?

The WHO said what was necessary in order to spread the virus as fast as possible. Period. 

You think Trump is wrong to say that they should be investigated. Fact.

We're done here.

[New World Disorder]

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Agreed...it works so well, even Canadians give him lots of attention....long before defunding the WHO.

 

Well even a broken clock is right twice a day.  And I support the de-funding of the WHO and the UN overall.

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, New World Disorder said:

Well even a broken clock is right twice a day.  And I support the de-funding of the WHO and the UN overall.

 

Great, because more long knives are coming out for the World Health Organization, regardless of Trump:

 

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How China Deceived the WHO

The most notorious example came in the form of a single tweet from the WHO account on January 14: “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus.” That same day, the Wuhan Health Commission’s public bulletin declared, “We have not found proof for human-to-human transmission.” But by that point even the Chinese government was offering caveats not included in the WHO tweet. “The possibility of limited human-to-human transmission cannot be excluded,” the bulletin said, “but the risk of sustained transmission is low.”

This, we now know, was catastrophically untrue, and in the months since, the global pandemic has put much of the world under an unprecedented lockdown and killed more than 100,000 people.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/world-health-organization-blame-pandemic-coronavirus/609820/

 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

We're done here.

We're never done.

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The WHO said what was necessary in order to spread the virus as fast as possible. Period.

How could the WHO possibly get away with intentionally spreading the virus with so many Americans in the WHO? You just can't bear to face that can you?

If the WHO somehow duped all the Americans embedded in the WHO's offices that would simply imply that other massive egregious failures were occurring on other multiple levels, like the apparent intelligence failure that occurred even earlier in November.  If everyone knew the WHO was so corrupt before this that knowledge should have triggered the Americans to be extra vigilant and even ultra vigilant given they had half a billion dollars invested in the place.

Everything points at 2 possible scenarios, Trump is either a lying sack of shit or he's the drunken skipper of the loosest ship in the fleet. Probably a combination of both.

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You think Trump is wrong to say that they should be investigated. Fact.

I agree with Trump on this 110% the extra 100% being spent investigating on 1. what Trump actually knew  2.when he actually knew it  3.why he didn't find out if/when he should have and 4. why the Big Buck for everyone of these failures shouldn't land squarely on his big fat stupid head?

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I agree with Trump on this 110% the extra 100% being spent investigating on 1. what Trump actually knew  2.when he actually knew it  3.why he didn't find out if/when he should have and 4. why the Big Buck for everyone of these failures shouldn't land squarely on his big fat stupid head?

 

...and that's because the usual deadbeats don't want to be the top donors to the World Health Organization.  

Some things never change.

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Great, because more long knives are coming out for the World Health Organization, regardless of Trump:

The investigations into all the crap these knives have to cut thru to the truth will eventually land in the same place, a bone that joins Jinping and Trump at the hip. How did China deceive the WHO when the WHO had so many Americans onboard and why didn't they question the spin and imprimatur the WHO added?  This question seems especially pertinent given all the apparent distrust and knowledge of corruption Americans were aware of when they nonetheless invested $500 million in the place while dispatching some 21 officials there.

No one thought to do that without instructing anyone to be ultra vigilant of corruption and duplicity as a precaution?  BTW didn't Trump and his ilk make great hay out of Obama dispatching nuclear inspectors to Iran in blindfolds?  Funny how it works when the blindfold is wrapped around their own head. 

 

Edited April 27, 2020 by eyeball

[WestCanMan]

40 minutes ago, eyeball said:

How could the WHO possibly get away with intentionally spreading the virus with so many Americans in the WHO? You just can't bear to face that can you?

If the WHO somehow duped all the Americans embedded in the WHO's offices that would simply imply that other massive egregious failures were occurring on other multiple levels, like the apparent intelligence failure that occurred even earlier in November.  If everyone knew the WHO was so corrupt before this that knowledge should have triggered the Americans to be extra vigilant and even ultra vigilant given they had half a billion dollars invested in the place.

The spokesman for the WHO was the one who met with Xi. I don't know if any Americans at the WHO were privy to those meetings and I doubt they were.

I don't think that Americans at the WHO got much access in Wuhan, and if they did it was after Wuhan was cleaned up, their access was limited, and data was destroyed.

It was just a week or so ago that China upped their Wuhan death stat by 50%. https://nationalpost.com/news/world/china-increases-its-death-toll-by-50-per-cent-after-reassessing-cases 

I don't know how many people had any say in Tedros's released statement. Maybe he did it unilaterally. I don't know, and neither did you. But we both know that the official statement of the WHO is whatever comes out of his idiotic lie-hole. 

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Everything points at 2 possible scenarios, Trump is either a lying sack of shit or he's the drunken skipper of the loosest ship in the fleet. Probably a combination of both.

I agree with Trump on this 110% the extra 100% being spent investigating on 1. what Trump actually knew  2.when he actually knew it  3.why he didn't find out if/when he should have and 4. why the Big Buck for everyone of these failures shouldn't land squarely on his big fat stupid head?

So stupid. 

WTF makes you think that Americans at the WHO had access to Wuhan? To accurate stats, figures, data? 

WTF makes you think that Trump toed the WHO line? 

What makes you think that Canadians at the WHO had so much less access than Americans there? We had people there as well. The US shared their intel with us. Just listen to the admission from Deputy Dog: https://www.spencerfernando.com/2020/04/14/watch-the-video-cbc-didnt-want-you-to-see/

Trudeau actually did toe the WHO line like a good little soldier. He even got a pat on the head from Xi himself *blush* for condemning the Wuhan travel ban as racist. 

Why are you so adamant that Trump needs to be investigated and Trudeau doesn't, when Trudeau just ran with the worst advice we ever heard in our lifetimes? That's just pure stupidity on your part eyeball. Trump at least acted against the bad advice from the WHO. 

Trudeau: "It's ok to let people from China and other covid hotspots fly into Canada. I'll be in my basement for the next month, running the country like an emperor. Good luck dipshits. If you survive, don't forget to vote for me."

[eyeball]

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't know if any Americans at the WHO were prvy to those meetings and I doubt they were.

An utterly massive failure in the face of America's suspicions and mistrust of the WHO, especially in light of it's $500 million investment.

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I don't think that Americans at the WHO got much access in Wuhan, and if they did it was after Wuhan was cleaned up, their access was limited, and data was destroyed.

Another massive failure given it's investment in the WHO.

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I don't know how many people had any say in Tedros's released statement. Maybe he did it unilaterally. I don't know, and neither did you. But we both know that the official statement of the WHO is whatever comes out of his idiotic lie-hole.

Yes but I also know there is no way Americans would have missed being in a loop as big as this. And if they were the fact they were is just another massive failure that is entirely their bosses fault.

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So stupid.

Yup. 

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WTF makes you think that Americans at the WHO had access to Wuhan? To accurate stats, figures, data? 

The issue here is the access Americans had to the WHO.

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WTF makes you think that Trump toed the WHO line?

All the Americans he had at the WHO. Why would he mistrust them?
 

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What makes you think that Canadians at the WHO had so much less access than Americans there? We had people there as well. The US shared their intel with us. Just listen to the admission from Deputy Dog: https://www.spencerfernando.com/2020/04/14/watch-the-video-cbc-didnt-want-you-to-see/

Trudeau actually did toe the WHO line like a good little soldier. He even got a pat on the head from Xi himself *blush* for condemning the Wuhan travel ban as racist. 

Why are you so adamant that Trump needs to be investigated and Trudeau doesn't, when Trudeau just ran with the worst advice we ever heard in our lifetimes? That's just pure stupidity on your part eyeball. Trump at least acted against the bad advice from the WHO.

 

Fuck you. Your assessment and judgement of my motives is entirely based on your assumption I'm as partisan towards Trudeau as you are to Trump and again I say...fuck you.  I'm very adamant about holding deep investigations into every government on the planet but not in-camera of course.  Fuck Trudeau and Trump if investigations reveal he also failed to respond effectively to the earliest reports we're hearing about.

You couldn't bring yourself to say fuck Trump even if he was caught running a pedophile ring out of the White House.

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Trudeau: "It's ok to let people from China and other covid hotspots fly into Canada. I'll be in my basement for the next month, running the country like an emperor. Good luck dipshits. If you survive, don't forget to vote for me."

Cite?

Edited April 27, 2020 by eyeball

[WestCanMan]

30 minutes ago, eyeball said:

An utterly massive failure in the face of America's suspicions and mistrust of the WHO, especially in light of it's $500 million investment.

l think we are all shocked to find that investing in the WHO didn't give Americans unrestricted access to everything in China. 

That was sarcasm.

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Another massive failure given it's investment in the WHO.

l think we are all shocked to find that investing in the WHO didn't give Americans unrestricted access to everything in China. 

That was sarcasm.

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Yes but I also know there is no way Americans would have missed being in a loop as big as this. And if they were the fact they were is just another massive failure that is entirely their bosses fault.

l think we are all shocked to find that investing in the WHO didn't give Americans unrestricted access to everything in China. 

That was sarcasm.

l think we are all shocked to find that the US doesn't have absolute control over what Tedros says. Maybe they should have tried to get someone else in that position.

Actually they did. That was sarcasm.

 

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The issue here is the access Americans had to the WHO.

All the Americans he had at the WHO. Why would he mistrust them?

The Americans had access to the WHO information. So what? 100% of nothing is still nothing if they didn't get proper access in China. 

If Pierre Poilevre tells Trudeau that it's Monday, does that prevent Trudeau from telling Canadians that it's Tuesday, thus shifting the calendars of 12 million idiots ahead by a day?

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Fuck you. Your assessment and judgement of my motives is entirely based on your assumption I'm as partisan towards Trudeau as you are to Trump and again I say...fuck you.  I'm very adamant about holding deep investigations into every government on the planet but not in-camera of course.  Fuck Trudeau and Trump if investigations reveal he also failed to respond effectively to the earliest reports we're hearing about.

You couldn't bring yourself to say fuck Trump even if he was caught running a pedophile ring out of the White House.

You are partisan, of that there is no doubt, so spare me the hissy-fit. Otherwise you wouldn't be acting like Trump is crazy to be investigating the WHO.

Trump likes investigations about as much as the Kennedys like guns.

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Cite?

www.commonfuckingknowledge.com/p1-Trudeauisanahole

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

l think we are all shocked to find that investing in the WHO didn't give Americans unrestricted access to everything in China. 

$500 million didn't even give access to the WHO apparently.

[Right To Left]

On 4/26/2020 at 4:39 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

And how is he going to do that?  He's not a 3rd world dictator that has corrupt control of the military in his back pocket.

It's an emergency.....delay the Nov vote. The Dems once again, have set the table for the GOP by removing the presidential ballot from the New York Primary. That was claimed to be because of concerns over voters being exposed to the virus by going to the polls....something they weren't concerned about in Wisconsin for some reason. But, be that as it may, the polls will still be open and New Yorkers can go vote for all of those running for lower offices.

So, what was the point again? Well, what's to stop Trump from just cancelling the whole damn thing if the Democrats could go do it for obvious political reasons: keep Bernie voters away from the polls and possibly dumping out some of those fossils in the down-ballot races.....like AOC did when she dumped out 20 year in office bagman- Joe Crowley. Suspicious political observers say the insiders don't want that happening again. 

So, it looks like the democratic system across the border is already clinging to the term- democracy by a thread.

[SpankyMcFarland]

The possible answers in that questionnaire show how weird results can be derived from such polls. None of the alternatives are satisfactory. WHO made serious mistakes but I don’t see how defunding them etc. right now helps fight the global pandemic. It’s just political pandering. Anger is not a policy program. 

Edited May 6, 2020 by SpankyMcFarland