bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Boges said: I would have actually thought Canada would be above 100,000 cases and 10,000 deaths by now. But nope! Still under. Canada has already exceeded 100,000 confirmed cases, and of course has many more that have not been confirmed. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: So you already admit that Canada lags behind many other nations in COVID testing but declare yourself an expert on "spikes" ? No, I admit they're behind the US. But the US is the epicentre of the virus. DoFo recently has to ask people to get tested. Not enough people are sick and aren't going to get tested. So he said anyone can get test. . . just for fun. Do you propose testing people at random? Edited June 18, 2020 by Boges Quote
Shady Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I know...but some of these folks are happy no matter how many Canadians are dying just as long as those damn 'muricans have more deaths per million. ...strange. Yes I’ve noticed that as well. It’s like an obsession. Not to mention that several European countries have twice as many or more cases per capita as the United States. And nobody really knows the actual totals out of China. Quote
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Canada has already exceeded 100,000 confirmed cases, and of course has many more that have not been confirmed. Oh look at that! Must have done it today. I'll admit the confirmed cases figure is quite dubious as we're only getting to a point where everyone can even get tested. The 100,000 figure is also irrelevant as 2/3 of those people have recovered. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: Do you propose testing people at random? Of course....that's what the "experts" want to do as well to get better sampling data by areas including serology. Latin America is now the "epicenter" for COVID-19. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Shady said: Yes I’ve noticed that as well. It’s like an obsession. Not to mention that several European countries have twice as many or more cases per capita as the United States. And nobody really knows the actual totals out of China. I agree, China is a void of information. Thought they're locking down with a few hundred confirmed cases. That's quite extreme. The European situation is exactly the reason North America shutdown. They were the worst hit, by far. I don't know who's saying they weren't. The UK is now the epicentre in Europe. Quote
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Of course....that's what the "experts" want to do as well to get better sampling data by areas including serology. Latin America is now the "epicenter" for COVID-19. You mean Brazil? A country who's Prez downplayed the virus, like Trump did. I'll randomly get tested if it doesn't involve a swab of the brain. What ever happened to the cheek? Edited June 18, 2020 by Boges Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: You mean Brazil? A country that downplayed the virus, like Trump did. I'll randomly get tested if it doesn't involve a swab of the brain. What ever happened to the cheek. Stop whining....nobody cares if you get tested or not. Don't worry about COVID cases or deaths in Canada...all that matters to you is what's happening in the U.S. for Trump. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Stop whining....nobody cares if you get tested or not. Don't worry about COVID cases or deaths in Canada...all that matters to you is what's happening in the U.S. for Trump. There's a thread discussing Ontario's response to COVID. Feel free to comment if you wish. I'm pretty much the only one that contributes. The spikes in certain US states are making news. Ontario has never had 1,000 cases a day, Florida is now getting that regularly. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boges said: There's a thread discussing Ontario's response to COVID. Feel free to comment if you wish. I'm pretty much the only one that contributes. The spikes in certain US states are making news. Ontario has never had 1,000 cases a day, Florida is now getting that regularly. This is THE COVID thread....Ontario has never tested at equivalent per capita rates as Florida. Why are you so afraid of "spikes" in a foreign country ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Stop whining....nobody cares if you get tested or not. Don't worry about COVID cases or deaths in Canada...all that matters to you is what's happening in the U.S. for Trump. It’s not as much about cases anyways, it’s about hospitalizations. Nobody has ever suggested shutting down society to keep cases particularly low. It was about hospitalizations and the healthcare system being overrun. Quote
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: This is THE COVID thread....Ontario has never tested at equivalent per capita rates as Florida. Not true. It may have been in May, but not now. Now I'm rounding here. https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-ontario-is-responding-covid-19 About 1.1 million tests. Testing per million for a population of 15 million would be 73,333. As of today Florida's per million testing is 70,492. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ So, at worst it's comparable. At best Florida's is lower. Quote Why are you so afraid of "spikes" in a foreign country ? I'm not afraid. (The border is closed) I'm discussing. Through Florida's tourism industry must be taking a beating. This virus really hasn't petered out like some said it would. You really do have to change your behaviour to kill it. Edited June 18, 2020 by Boges Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Boges said: Not true. It may have been in May, but not now. ...I'm not afraid (The border is closed) I'm discussing. Through Florida's tourism industry must be taking a beating. Look....you like to play games with COVID data even though Ontario has lagged with testing, has failed to include some data, and does a very poor job of integrating and communicating the data in the first place. Canada's PHAC seemingly has no integrated approach to the data, always claiming "oh, that's a provincial responsibility". Florida has a higher GDP than Ontario, which is also "taking a beating". Discuss that.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Look....you like to play games with COVID data even though Ontario has lagged with testing, has failed to include some data, and does a very poor job of integrating and communicating the data in the first place. Canada's PHAC seemingly has no integrated approach to the data, always claiming "oh, that's a provincial responsibility". Are you quibbling with this figures? https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-ontario-is-responding-covid-19 Quote Florida has a higher GDP than Ontario, which is also "taking a beating". Discuss that.... What does that have to do with COVID cases? Ontario's economy isn't reliant on Tourism. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Boges said: Are you quibbling with this figures? https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-ontario-is-responding-covid-19 What does that have to do with COVID cases? Ontario's economy isn't reliant on Tourism. Ontario is not a shining example for how COVID-19 was handled...then or now. But I guess pointing at Florida makes you feel better ? BTW....Canadians flee Ontario for Florida each year....but might have to tough it out this winter....so sad ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Ontario is not a shining example for how COVID-19 was handled...then or now. But I guess pointing at Florida makes you feel better ? BTW....Canadians flee Ontario for Florida each year....but might have to tough it out this winter....so sad ! US media is pointing out Florida. I love Florida. Would have been going there this month had COVID not happened. Doesn't mean their COVID caseload is spiking when other places, like Ontario, are dropping. BTW, since we talk about population density and how it relates to New York's outbreak. Though Florida has a larger population, it has no municipalities with the population density of the Greater Toronto Area, where a good chunk of the COVID cases came from. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boges said: US media is pointing out Florida. US media is pointing out many states....US media doesn't care about Ontario. Quote I love Florida. Would have been going there this month had COVID not happened. Doesn't mean their COVID caseload is spiking when other places, like Ontario, are dropping. Yeah, but who wants to go to Ontario ? Quote BTW, since we talk about population density and how it relates to New York's outbreak. Though Florida has a larger population, it has no municipalities with the population density of the Greater Toronto Area, where a good chunk of the COVID cases came from. I would still rather be in Florida than in Ontario (or Quebec). I can go there...you can't. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: US media is pointing out many states....US media doesn't care about Ontario. Yeah, they have their own Outbreak to deal with. Quote Yeah, but who wants to go to Ontario ? Lot's of people, it's beautiful. Quote I would still rather be in Florida than in Ontario (or Quebec). I can go there...you can't. Wouldn't want to anyway right now. Edited June 18, 2020 by Boges Quote
New World Disorder Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Good....because epidemiologists know that the only way out is to go right through it with 60% to 70% infection for herd immunity. Not going back to total lockdowns...not even in Canada which also has new spikes. Second wave will come, and there will be another lockdown. But don't take my word for it!! Check back on this in 6 months. Quote
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, New World Disorder said: Second wave will come, and there will be another lockdown. But don't take my word for it!! Check back on this in 6 months. I don't think any Western economy can cope with shutdowns during the Holiday Season. Imagine a Christmas Day where you can't see any family and exchange gifts. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: Yeah, they have their own Outbreak to deal with. Lot's of people, it's beautiful. Wouldn't want to anyway right now. Then stay in Ontario....don't worry about Florida so much. I would certainly go for another Dragon Crew launch, and many other activities. Keep the border closed until at least the summer of 2021. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Then stay in Ontario....don't worry about Florida so much. For someone who posts in a debate forum, you like to try and stiffle debate a lot. Seems contrary to the purpose of a site like this. Quote Keep the border closed until at least the summer of 2021. Even Trump has more sense than to advocate for that. It's Canada that still wants the border closed. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: For someone who posts in a debate forum, you like to try and stiffle debate a lot. Seems contrary to the purpose of a site like this. Even Trump has more sense than to advocate for that. It's Canada that still wants the border closed. I'm not obsessing on Florida like you are...what about the rest of the world and COVID-19 ? Now Trump is brilliant to you ? Keep it closed for at least another year....the snowbirds are just going to have to learn how to survive in their own country during winter. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I'm not obsessing on Florida like you are...what about the rest of the world and COVID-19 ? You're conflating wanting to debate something with obsession. Perhaps it's you that's obsessive. Quote Now Trump is brilliant to you ? Nope, just pointing out that you're more isolationist that him. Edited June 18, 2020 by Boges Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Boges said: You're conflating wanting to debate something with obsession. Perhaps it's you that's obsessive. But why Florida ? Why not Brazil....or Belgium...or UK ? What is so damn important about Florida to you ? Quote Nope, just pointing out that you're more isolationist that him. 100% correct. I also want all U.S. automakers to close their plants in Ontario because of this and future risks. Keep the border closed, just like Canada wants...for a very long time. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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