Warning to All MLW Members - Fear and the Cronavirus

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

Listen to Dougie. He's a trained professional and know's what he's talking about. His advice is informative.

Army Guy is more operationally experienced than I am by far, I'm probably just better at articulating things on the internet.

[taxme]

16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You should phase out everyone and just listen to me...

Gawd help us all if we ever do such a silly thing as that. 

[taxme]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Army Guy is more operationally experienced than I am by far, I'm probably just better at articulating things on the internet.

Personally, I am not all that interested in the military. The military is only for people who want to get and get maimed or killed for the elite and some country and it's people who could care less about them. Even their own Canadian politicians have no love for the military and it's soldiers. Do you honestly believe that the prime mistake of Canada that we have in Canada gives a dam about the military or it's soldiers? Why, the guy does not even give a dam about me.  Lol. 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, taxme said:

Personally, I am not all that interested in the military. The military is only for people who want to get and get maimed or killed for the elite and some country and it's people who could care less about them. Even their own Canadian politicians have no love for the military and it's soldiers. Do you honestly believe that the prime mistake of Canada that we have in Canada gives a dam about the military or it's soldiers? Why, the guy does not even give a dam about me.  Lol. 

It's all about the men to the left and right of you, we don't fight for the government, we fight for each other.  

[Guest ProudConservative]

Justin Trudeau has to tone down the Stimulus a little bit. The pandemic, has just begun. First he announces 1 billion, I thought that was a little cheap... Then he announces 25 billion. And now he announces 82 Billion?

Our dollar has just went from 75 cents down to 68 in one month?

Slow the F@ck down Justin. Stop giving $5000 of free money to people who just landed in the Caribbean, because they were too selfish to stay home.

Why do these dumbass liberals think money grows on Tree's?

Apparently Ontario has a stockpile of 55 million expired N95 Masks... but we can't use them for legal reasons, since they have expired. Where the common sense? How does a sealed mask expire?

If they can still be put on your face, they will stop the exponential growth of the virus.

Why didn't they mail them out to every Canadian... and ask them to disinfect, and reuse them?

Then there would be no need for doctors to worry, since Canadians wouldn't be spreading the virus as fast.

Edited March 19, 2020 by ProudConservative

[taxme]

13 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

It's all about the men to the left and right of you, we don't fight for the government, we fight for each other.  

No, military boy, you are fighting for an elite. It is not the soldiers or we the people that starts a war. It is someone else who starts a war and who gets some people like you to join the military and go fight their battles on their behalf. It's not the ordinary Joe and Mary six packs that start wars. It is the elite globalist banksters that start all wars. That is a well known fact. 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, taxme said:

No, military boy, you are fighting for an elite. It is not the soldiers or we the people that starts a war. It is someone else who starts a war and who gets some people like you to join the military and go fight their battles on their behalf. It's not the ordinary Joe and Mary six packs that start wars. It is the elite globalist banksters that start all wars. That is a well known fact. 

When you become a soldier, you undertake of your own free will,  to be an instrument of policy

A human weapon system at the disposal of whichever sovereign you choose to swear solemn allegiance to.

You sacrifice your freedom so that others do not have to, you put yourself in harms way, so others do not have to, you take personal responsibility for the defence of the body politic.

Somebody has to do it, and those men are a brotherhood, closer to each other than their own families, it's not a burden to be one of the brothers, it's a privilege.

[Guest ProudConservative]

Alright, we have a pandemic on our hands... Maybe, now is not the time to turn against our military. Besides, if they're willing to share some information, we should appreciate it.

Edited March 19, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Dougie93]

17 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

Alright, we have a pandemic on our hands... Maybe, now is not the time to turn against our military. Besides, if they're willing to share some information, we should appreciate it.

It's no skin off my teeth, taxme is my bro, I know where he's coming from, but it's besides the point.

Those of us who took the Queen's Schilling all had our own reasons for joining, but the reason we stayed in the end, was the brotherhood.

It was a harsh realm, but that was what we wanted, we wanted to see the Elephant, and we went of our own free will.

Legio Patria Nostra

[Guest ProudConservative]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

It's no skin off my teeth, taxme is my bro, I know where he's coming from, but it's besides the point.

Those of us who took the Queen's Schilling all had our own reasons for joining, but the reason we stayed in the end, was the brotherhood.

It was a harsh realm, but that was what we wanted, we wanted to see the Elephant, and we went of our own free will.

Legio Patria Nostra

I don't know about the cold war, but we were force-fed a diet of seething hatred towards those who fought in Afghanistan and Iraq. When I went to University, the message was repeated loud and clear "No Blood For Oil". We hated the military, as much as we hated George W Bush.

Edited March 19, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, ProudConservative said:

We hated the military, as much as we hated George W Bush.

Her Majesty defends the right, and we defend Her Majesty, so it's all good like that at the end of the day.

[Guest ProudConservative]

I was trying to pick up a girl I liked, and I remember asking her... What's wrong with George Bush... I had to listen to her lecture me for an hour, before I got to take her out. I remember sitting beside he with all her friends around... and they all listened to her go on about the American empire, and killing people for oil.

I've done my share of bashing army people, but I've learned to tone it down.

From time to time, I'll hear some dumbass Jock.... virtue signal about how was in the army... Depending on my mood, i'll tear him to shreds. Most of the time, I ask liberals to chillout.

Edited March 19, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Dougie93]

Just now, ProudConservative said:

I've done my share of bashing army people, but I've learned to tone it down.

I've done my share of bashing civilians right into the hospital from down at the bars, so it all evens out in the end, I've gotten my pound of flesh many times over.

[Guest ProudConservative]

11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I've done my share of bashing civilians right into the hospital from down at the bars, so it all evens out in the end, I've gotten my pound of flesh many times over.

Well I'll give you an example. I was at a lake once, and this millennial, was bragging about how many people his friend sniped in Iraq... He said he has a "Personal Score" of 31. He was just doing what he can to keep my country safe.

He kept repeating himself... 31

Well I let him have it... because I don't think anyone should call it a "Personal Score" know what I mean?

Then they guy start's bitching... No one appreciates the army.

Edited March 19, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Guest ProudConservative]

I'm just not over Afghanistan and Iraq, so it's hard for me to forgive those generation of soldiers. I guess the hippies still hate the vietnam vets. It's how it goes.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, ProudConservative said:

Well I let him have it... because I don't think anyone should call it a "Personal Score" know what I mean?

 

Snipers are highly analytical, they are constantly learning and improving, the confirmed kill is simply a battle damage assessment with an associated report. 

[Army Guy]

45 minutes ago, taxme said:

Personally, I am not all that interested in the military. The military is only for people who want to get and get maimed or killed for the elite and some country and it's people who could care less about them. Even their own Canadian politicians have no love for the military and it's soldiers. Do you honestly believe that the prime mistake of Canada that we have in Canada gives a dam about the military or it's soldiers? Why, the guy does not even give a dam about me.  Lol. 

I think you lost the entire point of WHY Canadians join the military, there is millions of reasons, free education, a well paying job and good pension, medical and dental benefits not only for me, but my family as well, getting to blow shit up for free, meeting some of the best people in our nation with similar interests....making friends for a life time.... being part of something larger than yourself, giving back something to our nation, be given the opportunity to represent our nation overseas, and domestically, be it on combat operations, or helping a family out in Winnipeg during the floods, or Ottawa during the Ice storm, or some forest fire, seeing other Canadians faces light up when you say we are here to help....seeing an entire Afghan village celebrate because we just dug them a well for fresh water, life saving water... Not many Canadians get to do all of that, and yes, sometimes you put your life in danger, it's part of the job...no more than being a fire fighter, or policemen, or EMT....

And to be honest I never did any of that stuff, to get your approval, or any other Canadians approval or a pat on the back, or a chest full of medals.  I did it for the guys on the left and right of me, I know that is hard to understand, but you develop a bond like no other when faced with the risk of loosing your life, a bond that will last a life time.......... that and to uphold the high standard that was set many moons before me, by hero's that stormed the beaches of Normandy, or assaulted Vimy ridge. It does not have to make sense to you or anybody else, it was my choice, my call that I and thousands before me made.

The only mistake I made is trusting our nation would have our backs when everything was said and done...that all our sacrifices would not be forgotten, and we only asked for one thing....That when we came home broken they would fix us …. apart from that I do not regret any of my choices, I got to serve with greatest men and women in Canada's finest Infantry Regt, The Royal Canadian Regiment and would do it all over again.

 

 

[Guest ProudConservative]

4 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I think you lost the entire point of WHY Canadians join the military, there is millions of reasons, free education, a well paying job and good pension, medical and dental benefits not only for me, but my family as well, getting to blow shit up for free, meeting some of the best people in our nation with similar interests....making friends for a life time.... being part of something larger than yourself, giving back something to our nation, be given the opportunity to represent our nation overseas, and domestically, be it on combat operations, or helping a family out in Winnipeg during the floods, or Ottawa during the Ice storm, or some forest fire, seeing other Canadians faces light up when you say we are here to help....seeing an entire Afghan village celebrate because we just dug them a well for fresh water, life saving water... Not many Canadians get to do all of that, and yes, sometimes you put your life in danger, it's part of the job...no more than being a fire fighter, or policemen, or EMT....

And to be honest I never did any of that stuff, to get your approval, or any other Canadians approval or a pat on the back, or a chest full of medals.  I did it for the guys on the left and right of me, I know that is hard to understand, but you develop a bond like no other when faced with the risk of loosing your life, a bond that will last a life time.......... that and to uphold the high standard that was set many moons before me, by hero's that stormed the beaches of Normandy, or assaulted Vimy ridge. It does not have to make sense to you or anybody else, it was my choice, my call that I and thousands before me made.

The only mistake I made is trusting our nation would have our backs when everything was said and done...that all our sacrifices would not be forgotten, and we only asked for one thing....That when we came home broken they would fix us …. apart from that I do not regret any of my choices, I got to serve with greatest men and women in Canada's finest Infantry Regt, The Royal Canadian Regiment and would do it all over again.

This is my message to Taxme. I just say we tone it down a little bit. We have our different life experiences. Let's find different scapegoats besides each other. We could run around in circles, trying to figure out who's right, and who's wrong. Bashing military people should be the least of our priorities during a pandemic.

Edited March 19, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Dougie93]

Most of the stuff you do the public never sees nor hears of, the only people whose respect you crave are your peers, they are the only judges who matter.

[Guest ProudConservative]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Most of the stuff you do the public never sees nor hears of, the only people whose respect you crave are your peers, they are the only judges who matter.

Taxme makes a good point, about the elite using the army for their own geopolitical chess. My issue it's that it demeaning towards those who served, and such debate shouldn't happen at times like these.

Me personally, I'd like to learn a thing or two, about survival from you guys.

Edited March 19, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Dougie93]

Just now, ProudConservative said:

Taxme makes a good point, about the elite using the army for their own geopolitical chess. My issue it's that it demeaning towards those who served, and such debate shouldn't happen at times like these.

Doesn't bother me,  I like geopolitical chess, I wanted to fight the Cold War, I joined for ideological reasons, to stand on the trace in the path of World War Three.

I have no inhibitions about killing my ideological enemies, if the elites are going to enable that, so be it.

 

[Guest ProudConservative]

Don't be surprised if you get called out of retirement if things get bad... Canada has a severe shortage of troops. Has the government reached out to you, and put you on standby?

[Army Guy]

27 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

I was trying to pick up a girl I liked, and I remember asking her... What's wrong with George Bush... I had to listen to her lecture me for an hour, before I got to take her out. I remember sitting beside he with all her friends around... and they all listened to her go on about the American empire, and killing people for oil.

I've done my share of bashing army people, but I've learned to tone it down.

From time to time, I'll hear some dumbass Jock.... virtue signal about how was in the army... Depending on my mood, i'll tear him to shreds. Most of the time, I ask liberals to chillout.

Please tell me thats not what all this is about , you buying into some peacenik chicks ramble just to get laid....about killing for oil and all that....I guess if I had large breasts you be pro army by now is that it...now you've drawn a line in the sand and painted the entire military with one brush....because you had a chance to get laid...I have to ask did you atleast get laid, I mean she must have been pretty persuasive for her ramble it to stick all these years. Did you marry her ? Perhaps you should have just told her the Afghanistan war was not about oil...and it's still not about oil....

 

 

 

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

Don't be surprised if you get called out of retirement if things get bad... Canada has a severe shortage of troops. Has the government reached out to you, and put you on standby?

One never leaves the regiment but feet first in a pine box,  but all my qualifications are out of date, so they wouldn't call me up for operations

I know lots of people though, including the Commanding Officer of the local regiment, if he needs civilian volunteers he can trust, he knows how to get ahold of me

[Guest ProudConservative]

10 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Please tell me thats not what all this is about , you buying into some peacenik chicks ramble just to get laid....about killing for oil and all that....I guess if I had large breasts you be pro army by now is that it...now you've drawn a line in the sand and painted the entire military with one brush....because you had a chance to get laid...I have to ask did you atleast get laid, I mean she must have been pretty persuasive for her ramble it to stick all these years. Did you marry her ? Perhaps you should have just told her the Afghanistan war was not about oil...and it's still not about oil....

Man you get triggered to easily. Didn't the train you to take things with a grain of salt? That was just one of many examples... All my university professors hated bush, everyone I knew hated bush and the army.

I was the late guy, just getting up to speed.

You are going to meet alot of people, with different perspectives on the army... Don't let it bother you. 

I worry far more about the people running out government, that trying to figure out if what the soldiers did, was right or wrong.

Your greatest asset, is the knowledge and the experience it's given you.

Edited March 19, 2020 by ProudConservative