Trudeau's smug, shallow stupidity on stage again

[Dougie93]

Toronto isn't even Toronto anymore, the old city of Toronto was killed by the Megacity and the Monoculture.

[Dougie93]

It's more like the Toronto of yore out here in the countryside now, if you loved the old city of Toronto, you should move to Guelph : The Royal City.

Edited December 8, 2019 by Dougie93

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

English Canada has no identity,  take away the British American and you are simply left with an American.

You can’t fully separate out English Canada.  That’s how we know there’s a Canadian identity beyond French. English, or Indigenous Canada.  It’s the Métis and French settlements that run all the way to Alberta and throughout the Maritimes, which is neither wholly French or Indigenous.  It’s the mesh of English colonial and French colonial Canada in cities like Ottawa and Montreal.  It’s the sugar shacks and raw nature up north interspersed with French and Gaelic names.  Then there’s the cosmopolitan multicultural aspects which are newer and more pervasive in the south, like the American influence.  You can’t fully strip out French, English or Indigenous Canada.  It’s too late for that, too inbred into something Canadian that won’t go away — thankfully!

[Zeitgeist]

21 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

It's more like the Toronto of yore out here in the countryside now, if you loved the old city of Toronto, you should move to Guelph : The Royal City.

Guelph is idyllic for sure.  Old Scottish and German with the vibe of Quebec.  

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

 It’s too late for that, too inbred into something Canadian that won’t go away — thankfully!

Whatever helps you sleep at night, the reality is Americanization though, "Canada" is just the Liberal Party of Toronto now, the rest are dissident strangers in their own land.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Guelph is idyllic for sure.  Old Scottish and German with the vibe of Quebec.  

Actually British Italian.   That's what Guelph means, the Guelphites were the Italians who were loyal to the Hanoverians. 

Guelph was a designed by John Galt, then they brought the Italians in to be the stone workers.  Hence the Papist cathedral on the hill.

[Argus]

3 hours ago, Cannucklehead said:

Immigration is our country is minuscule in comparison to the u.s. but we have the second largest country on earth.

Immigration in our country is far greater than the US on a population basis. The US, population approximately 10 times ours, took in roughly 530,000 immigrants last year. Canada took in 315,000. The US is thus far, far better able to absorb and integrate them.

3 hours ago, Cannucklehead said:

 The problem is we have not developed enough northward to make it habitable for most people.  

Unless global warming does something in that regard it's not going to change. And immigrants don't go north. They go into our major cities.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

because he used the phrase "you people" like he has a million times before, and I'm pretty sure he was not referring to brown people as some have suggested. Canada was racist long before don came along and will be long after we are gone...

Cherry dared to suggest immigrants should act like traditional Canadians.

[Cannucklehead]

3 minutes ago, Argus said:

Immigration in our country is far greater than the US on a population basis. The US, population approximately 10 times ours, took in roughly 530,000 immigrants last year. Canada took in 315,000. The US is thus far, far better able to absorb and integrate them.

Unless global warming does something in that regard it's not going to change. And immigrants don't go north. They go into our major cities.

They dont integrate them in america, they assimilate them.  (Or they try to anyway)

Same as Quebec.   

[Argus]

2 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

They dont integrate them in america, they assimilate them.  (Or they try to anyway)

Same as Quebec.   

It means the same thing. If you think third or fourth gen Italian Americans have forgotten all about their culture you haven't met any. The point is they're not taking in so many that their own culture will be overwhelmed by sheer numbers.

Edited December 8, 2019 by Argus

[Cannucklehead]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

It means the same thing. If you think third or fourth gen Italian Americans have forgotten all about their culture you haven't met any.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/glennllopis/2019/01/29/yet-another-call-for-assimilation-in-america-but-assimilation-to-what/amp/

 

 

[Argus]

6 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/glennllopis/2019/01/29/yet-another-call-for-assimilation-in-america-but-assimilation-to-what/amp/

I'm not sure what you think the point of this cite is. Are you going to pretend that 2nd or 3rd generation Italian Amricans, or Japanese Americans or Chinese Americans have lost all connection with their ancestors culture? Because they haven't. However, they have developed a shared sense of national identity, which is something we don't have here and are moving further away from due to the flood of immigrants.

The writer of that piece is Hispanic, and is suggesting that assimilation doesn't work and everyone should hang onto their cultures. But being aware of your cultural background does not make you a part of it. The difference is an Italian American and an Irish-American are, first and foremost, above all, Americans. Their cultural background is secondary. The exception, to an extent, are Hispanics, because so many of them have arrived so recently, and so they often feel more connected to that aspect of their culture.

That is the thing which is not developing very well here.
 

Edited December 8, 2019 by Argus

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

Actually British Italian.   That's what Guelph means, the Guelphites were the Italians who were loyal to the Hanoverians. 

Guelph was a designed by John Galt, then they brought the Italians in to be the stone workers.  Hence the Papist cathedral on the hill.

Well done.  I find these Italian pockets interesting, like Bronte and Palermo in Oakville.  That church is impressive, similar to Notre Dame in Montreal.  There’s a fascinating Scottish history in the stone cities connected by the old railway: Guelph, Cambridge and Kitchener.  The area around Cambridge was the centre of Scottish settlement led by John Galt.  I’m sure you know the Germanic history that caused New Berlin to be renamed Kitchener after the war.  Very strong part of Ontario.  Doesn’t surprise me that it’s a technology centre.  

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Well done.  I find these Italian pockets interesting, like Bronte and Palermo in Oakville.  That church is impressive, similar to Notre Dame in Montreal.  There’s a fascinating Scottish history in the stone cities connected by the old railway: Guelph, Cambridge and Kitchener.  The area around Cambridge was the centre of Scottish settlement led by John Galt.  I’m sure you know the Germanic history that caused New Berlin to be renamed Kitchener after the war.  Very strong part of Ontario.  Doesn’t surprise me that it’s a technology centre.  

The Italians out here aren't like the ones in Toronto, they really are British Italians, they're not like Woodbridge Paisanos, the Italian families here arrived in the 19th century.

[Dougie93]

Wellington and Waterloo counties really is the place to be now.

I'm from the 6ix, Toronto the Good, Glenn Gould's Toronto, but that lifestyle we had in Toronto back in the seventies and eighties, that's here now.

This is more like the Toronto the Good here, this is where Glenn Gould would live now.

Even the nightlife here is better than Toronto, although I'm too old to go to the bars with the college kids.

Kitchener, Waterloo, Cambridge and Guelph have everything Toronto has, but then you got the lovely countryside all around it.

Plus you can get fully detached, big yard, two car garage, for a fraction of what it costs in Toronto.

Just like Toronto back in the day, rush hour only lasts one hour, so you can drive everywhere out here, and there's always parking.

Anytime you want to go to Toronto, you can jump on the train right to Union Station, but I don't bother, there's nothing in Toronto that's not here too.

It's also easier access to America, you just drive straight down, no need to get on the 401

Edited December 8, 2019 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

Diane Francis: The inevitable Trudeau recession will ravage the West and the middle class

Trudeau has degraded the value of two major assets — our relationship with the U.S. and our natural resources — to the detriment of all Canadians

https://business.financialpost.com/diane-francis/diane-francis-the-inevitable-trudeau-recession-will-ravage-the-west-and-the-middle-class

[SpankyMcFarland]

Well NAFTA got done so that’s one less thing to worry about. 

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Well NAFTA got done so that’s one less thing to worry about. 

As if America is really going to stick to that deal.

[Dougie93]

 

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Canadians travelling to or through U.S. should pay close attention to their withering rights

Latest changes to Preclearance Agreement give U.S. officials dangerously extended power on Canadian soil

This column is an opinion by H.M. Jocelyn, a Ph.D. candidate in American Studies at Rutgers University-Newark. A dual Canadian-American citizen, she was born in Stratford, Ont., and crosses the international boundary between the two nations many times a year. For more information about CBC's Opinion section, please see the FAQ.

The United States and Canada share what's been known as the longest undefended border in the world, because of the neighbourly sentiment between the nations. Now defence has become irrelevant, because Canadian lawmakers have effectively invited an invasion by U.S. border authorities.

In the political climate of President Donald Trump's Muslim ban and Facebook groups comprising bigoted customs agents, Canadians travelling to or through the U.S. need to pay close attention to their withering rights.

While far less violent than the horrors at the southern boundary of the United States, problems arising across the northern U.S. line are alarming. Incidents of racial profiling against travellers of colour have risen significantly, and the number of people turned back by U.S. border guards has seen an increase in recent years.

The most recent incursion by U.S. border officials comes in the form of amendments made earlier this year to the set of laws that facilitate cross-border movement, known as the Canada-United States Preclearance Agreement.

Travellers on their way from Canada into the United States should be aware that these changes, ostensibly enacted to increase the efficiency of travel and trade across the boundary, give U.S. officials dangerously extended power in Customs preclearance areas on Canadian ground.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-border-crossing-rights-1.5382547

 

 

[PIK]

On 12/6/2019 at 3:33 PM, Army Guy said:

well atleast he has something going for him , something his father never left him...good socks...I see we Canadians have raised the Bar to never to be seen heights that will never be obtained by anyone ever again.......Have good socks, drama teacher, a snowboarding instructor and worked as a bouncer at a nightclub...all of that in one life time....

 

Watched a interview where trudeau says he work a couple shifts as a bartender and quit. It was to hard on him.