Trudeau's smug, shallow stupidity on stage again

[Zeitgeist]

2 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

This is not about Trump, this is about our PM and what he said....you may shrug your shoulders and say who cares....Trump cares and his behavior is not new to us, we have all been exposed to it , and we all know what to expect....And when your the President of the US the most powerful nation in the world you can be what ever you want to be to whom ever you want to....And the there is dozens of cases that prove just that....So why would Justin place our nation in danger of any actions trump might take....it is not a smart move, in fact it is stupid move...

It was a stupid move but why should the world cater to the whims of this wannabe Il Duce?   I’d like to see world leaders call out the behaviour when warranted.  Looking the other way gives him a free pass.  Trudeau has issues but Trump’s are worse and more dangerous. 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

  Trudeau has issues but Trump’s are worse and more dangerous. 

Nonsense, you just don't like him personally,  so you have to claim "dangerous'.  Weak.

 

[Army Guy]

15 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

It was a stupid move but why should the world cater to the whims of this wannabe Il Duce?   I’d like to see world leaders call out the behaviour when warranted.  Looking the other way gives him a free pass.  Trudeau has issues but Trump’s are worse and more dangerous. 

So there we have it, it was a stupid move, one that our PM did not think through, one that he should have his nuts slapped...First because that is not what he is paid for, telling jokes is not in the job description....two,  he is risking a lot for no net gain at all, other than to get a smile or two.....three ,Trump is the most powerful man on the planet, regardless of what we think of him, he is still the man with the button, who's mere tweet can effect our stock exchange.... four trumps behavior is a know fact, so why poke the bear...just for the point of poking the bear....if you ask me Justin is the one that is just as dangerous, I mean it is not Justin that is going to pay for any of trumps sanctions....it is me and you...and if our leader does not have common sense that was required in this case then it's time to go....unless the majority of Canadians have the same common sense....

[Dougie93]

Would be funny if the POTUS started Tweet bombing the TSX.  That would send Canadians into a tizzy. lol

[Zeitgeist]

41 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Would be funny if the POTUS started Tweet bombing the TSX.  That would send Canadians into a tizzy. lol

No, it would be irresponsible, just as it was rude and irresponsible to call Trudeau weak, two-faced, and to put him on the spot in front of the cameras in the official public interview.  What Trudeau said was not supposed to be filmed.  It was not a presentation for the press.  Also, Trudeau didn't say anything of consequence.  I get the characterization: Trump is rude but what you see is what you get.  The problem is that not only is he rude but what you see isn't what you get.  With power comes responsibility.  If what people are saying here is that JT made some big mistake, Trump does such things with aplomb and frequency.  So what, because he's the US president he gets to be an asshole and we should all cower and pretend it's fine.  Fuck that.  The guy's a dick and needs to go.  JT can follow him out.

[Dougie93]

27 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

   The guy's a dick and needs to go. 

Hahaha, he's not going anywhere until 2024, suck it, Canada.

[Zeitgeist]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Hahaha, he's not going anywhere until 2024, suck it, Canada.

He's the US's president.  Say that to the yanks.

[Dougie93]

11 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

He's the US's president.  Say that to the yanks.

He's not bothering me, I think he's doing a good job.

[Zeitgeist]

42 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

He's not bothering me, I think he's doing a good job.

Well maybe half the country thinks so.  We'll find out.

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Well maybe half the country thinks so.  We'll find out.

America is booming, 3.5% unemployment, the wars have wound down,  Biden is a loser, the Democrats are boxed out by the Electoral College, it's a done deal.

Big Daddy Trump President of Canada : four more years.

Edited December 8, 2019 by Dougie93

[Cannucklehead]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/snl-jimmy-fallons-trudeau-paul-rudds-macron-and-james-cordens-boris-johnson-bully-alec-baldwins-trump?ref=scroll

 

 

The guy playing Johnson was perfect! 

[Argus]

17 hours ago, Cannucklehead said:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5387900

 

Well that's interesting.  

Well that's irrelevant to the topic...

[Argus]

16 hours ago, Cannucklehead said:

As much Canadian as anyone else.  Dont care if they were here for a month or 20 years, Canadian is Canadian.  

This is written as if by a man who cares nothing about Canada, its past or its future. The globalist who would be just as happy in New York or Bangkok or New Dehli, who has no connection with or any sense of shared identity with Canadians.

Edited December 8, 2019 by Argus

[Argus]

15 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Never been but I’ll get there.  Out of convenience it’s Florida for me, which is more Republican outside Miami.  Cheaper than California but not as varied.  

Why don't you two take it offline and get a room?

[Argus]

13 hours ago, Army Guy said:

This is not about Trump, this is about our PM and what he said....you may shrug your shoulders and say who cares....Trump cares and his behavior is not new to us, we have all been exposed to it , and we all know what to expect....And when your the President of the US the most powerful nation in the world you can be what ever you want to be to whom ever you want to....And the there is dozens of cases that prove just that....So why would Justin place our nation in danger of any actions trump might take....it is not a smart move, in fact it is stupid move...

No one has ever described Trudeau as particularly intelligent, much less sophisticated. He's a shallow, callow boy wrapped in political correctness who never grew up.

[Argus]

13 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

It was a stupid move but why should the world cater to the whims of this wannabe Il Duce?

Because he has the power to cause a lot of trouble for them, and they lack such power themselves. Most of them are barely in power anyway. The divisiveness which seems to have started in the US has spread to Canada, the UK, France and Germany. Only with their parliamentary systems that leaves for much weaker government.

[Cannucklehead]

18 minutes ago, Argus said:

This is written as if by a man who cares nothing about Canada, its past or its future. The globalist who would be just as happy in New York or Bangkok or New Dehli, who has no connection with or any sense of shared identity with Canadians.

Would you rather we shut our borders down and not allow anyone in then?  There's a reason why people want to come to our country, but Don exposed the ugly side of it.  

[Argus]

7 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

Would you rather we shut our borders down and not allow anyone in then?  There's a reason why people want to come to our country, but Don exposed the ugly side of it.  

Why would you imagine the only options are doors wide open to hundreds of thousands of people each year, almost completely unvetted - vs - shutting our borders?

Edited December 8, 2019 by Argus

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Argus said:

Why would you imagine the only options are doors wide open to hundreds of thousands of people each year, almost completely unvetted - vs - shutting our borders?

Because he's a Liberal from Toronto and that's how he is indoctrinated to frame the debate by the CBC ?

[Cannucklehead]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

Why would you imagine the only options are doors wide open to hundreds of thousands of people each year, almost completely unvetted - vs - shutting our borders?

Not unvetted obviously, but when people start discriminating against certain types of ethnicities there is a problem.  

[Dougie93]

The issue really has nothing to do with immigrants

There is no 'Canadian' culture for them to assimilate to and the loonie left which controls the agenda is vehemently opposed to assimilation.

The Post National State is real.  It basically renders the Confederation into a giant hotel.

Which is convenient for America, since we can now dump all unwanted refugees over the boarder into Mexico North.

Ave Trump

 

Edited December 8, 2019 by Dougie93

[Argus]

9 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

Not unvetted obviously, but when people start discriminating against certain types of ethnicities there is a problem.  

The problem with immigration is there's too much of it. As Jonathan Haidt pointed out you can have you can have diversity within a shared sense of identity, and if you don't have that shared sense of identity it's going to be very divisive. We have brought in millions and millions of people from countries with vastly different cultures and values than ours, cultures and values which actually run contrary to our own, and made no attempt to integrate them. And as those numbers rise, and they are continuing to rise every year as immigration numbers go up, any shared sense of identity is fading. That leaves people dropping back to their ethnic or religious or cultural identity, often from where they or their ancestors came from.

Which leaves people like you saying "Eh, a Canadian is a Canadian even if he or she just got off the plane and speaks no English or French." As if there is no need of a shared sense of national identity, no need of a sense of being a single people. But without that shared identity there cannot be anything but divisiveness and distrust.

Trudeau doesn't know, like or understand Canada. He's basically said as much. He's a Quebecer first and foremost and that is where his loyalties and sense of shared identity lie. He denies English Canada even has any common sense of identity or culture because he has no connection to it.

Edited December 8, 2019 by Argus

[Dougie93]

English Canada has no identity,  take away the British American and you are simply left with an American.

[Cannucklehead]

2 minutes ago, Argus said:

The problem with immigration is there's too much of it. As Jonathan Haidt pointed out you can have you can have diversity within a shared sense of identity, and if you don't have that shared sense of identity it's going to be very divisive. We have brought in millions and millions of people from countries with vastly different cultures and values than ours, cultures and values which actually run contrary to our own, and made no attempt to integrate them. And as those numbers rise, and they are continuing to rise every year as immigration numbers go up, any shared sense of identity is fading. That leaves people dropping back to their ethnic or religious or cultural identity, often from where they or their ancestors came from.

Which leaves people like you saying "Eh, a Canadian is a Canadian even if he or she just got off the plane and speaks no English or French." As if there is no need of a shared sense of national identity, no need of a sense of being a single people. But without that shared identity there cannot be anything but divisiveness and distrust.

Immigration is our country is minuscule in comparison to the u.s. but we have the second largest country on earth.  The problem is we have not developed enough northward to make it habitable for most people.  

Throughout Canada's history, its culture has been influenced by European culture and traditions, especially British and French, and by its own indigenous cultures.^[1] Over time, elements of the cultures of Canada's immigrant populations have become incorporated to form a Canadian cultural mosaic.

 

[Dougie93]

Cultural Mosaic lol    Here comes the Liberal dogma.

Canada doesn't even have the one thing that defined its culture anymore, even Ice hockey is being dismantled  now.

American hockey fans are the best hockey fans, America wins all the Stanley Cups.