J4L Posted June 9, 2019 Report Posted June 9, 2019 On 6/4/2019 at 6:29 PM, eyeball said: It's a pretty sad story alright. If the only way to prevent something like this is to give the government more power to take back people's rights to choose I think you'll find that's the slipperier slope. If the price of less intrusion into our lives or deaths is an occasional wrenching of one's heart or conscience I think I can live with that. I just hope they catch the bastards who ruined her life. What about the hundreds of thousand of survivors of rape/abuse? What kind of message is this sending them? We won't mind if you off yourself, since you are damaged goods. Quote
eyeball Posted June 9, 2019 Report Posted June 9, 2019 1 minute ago, J4L said: What about the hundreds of thousand of survivors of rape/abuse? What kind of message is this sending them? We won't mind if you off yourself, since you are damaged goods. Whose this "we" you're talking about? It certainly doesn't include me. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Guest Posted June 9, 2019 Report Posted June 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, J4L said: What about the hundreds of thousand of survivors of rape/abuse? What kind of message is this sending them? We won't mind if you off yourself, since you are damaged goods. Do you think they all want to? If any of them do, do you think they should be forced to live because to do as they choose makes you uncomfortable? Quote
J4L Posted June 9, 2019 Report Posted June 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Do you think they all want to? If any of them do, do you think they should be forced to live because to do as they choose makes you uncomfortable? Yes. She is 17 for christ sakes! If one is 73 and has terminal cancer, it would be a valid concern. Depression is usually not chronic, and suicide has been proven to be the most devastating death to family and friends. Additionally, family members are over 5 times more likely to off themselves if a close family member has died that way. 1 Quote
Guest Posted June 9, 2019 Report Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, J4L said: Yes. She is 17 for christ sakes! If one is 73 and has terminal cancer, it would be a valid concern. Depression is usually not chronic, and suicide has been proven to be the most devastating death to family and friends. Additionally, family members are over 5 times more likely to off themselves if a close family member has died that way. Well, the one in the OP is/was seventeen, and I think there is some doubt as to whether or not she is actually dead. I believe the last thing I read about her was that she stopped eating and drinking because she wasn't allowed assisted suicide. That will be more fun for her and her family, I'm sure. Will it make you more comfortable? Or would you have her force fed? Edited June 9, 2019 by bcsapper Quote
J4L Posted June 9, 2019 Report Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Well, the one in the OP is/was seventeen, and I think there is some doubt as to whether or not she is actually dead. I believe the last thing I read about her was that she stopped eating and drinking because she wasn't allowed assisted suicide. That will be more fun for her and her family, I'm sure. Will it make you more comfortable? Or would you have her force fed? So your comfort level remains tolerable. Maybe we should allow students who fail to get into Med school to hang themselves in public too. When will the madness end? This girl needs to be in a psychiatric ward until she is properly treated for the PTSD she has. It's amazing, but no surprise that the Left is in favor of this. Edited June 9, 2019 by J4L 2 Quote
Guest Posted June 9, 2019 Report Posted June 9, 2019 Just now, J4L said: Maybe we should allow students who fail to get into Med school to hang themselves in public too. When will the madness end? At the in public bit? I can't see that happening. Quote
Charles Anthony Posted June 10, 2019 Report Posted June 10, 2019 Folks, Please avoid personal banter in the open forums. Feel free to use the Personal Messager function. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
cannuck Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 We quite gleefully pay for abortions by the thousands, and this is for children who did NOT express their wish to die. So, what's the big deal about one who does\? Quote
Guest Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, cannuck said: We quite gleefully pay for abortions by the thousands, and this is for children who did NOT express their wish to die. So, what's the big deal about one who does\? I wouldn't have put it quite like that, but you make a good point. Everyday thousands of people who do not want to die, do so anyway. Why should we be concerned with letting someone who does want to die do so? A far more tragic outcome would be to force such a person to live on against their will. Edited June 18, 2019 by bcsapper Quote
OftenWrong Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I wouldn't have put it quite like that, but you make a good point. Everyday thousands of people who do not want to die, do so anyway. Why should we be concerned with letting someone who does want to die do so? A far more tragic outcome would be to force such a person to live on against their will. Indeed... blessed is the neo-leftist atheist death cult. Quote
Guest Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Indeed... blessed is the neo-leftist atheist death cult. Blessed is anyone who seeks to do the right thing for his fellow human. Quote
OftenWrong Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 11:59 PM, bcsapper said: Or would you have her force fed? Look at it this way, people are unstable and make mistakes in judgement all the time. Leftists are constantly whining things like, "Oh, you won't kill me. It's so unfair!" Does that mean they deserve to die? No. They might grow up to be right wingers. Quote
Guest Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, OftenWrong said: Look at it this way, people are unstable and make mistakes in judgement all the time. Leftists are constantly whining things like, "Oh, you won't kill me. It's so unfair!" Does that mean they deserve to die? No. They might grow up to be right wingers. Deserve's got nothing to do with it. Free will does though. Quote
OftenWrong Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Deserve's got nothing to do with it. Free will does though. I think there should be some kind of litmus test, or evaluation. Maybe an arbiter who gets to decide who lives, and who dies. "Live!" <bangs gavel> "Die!" <bangs gavel> "Die!" ... Quote
Guest Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: I think there should be some kind of litmus test, or evaluation. Maybe an arbiter who gets to decide who lives, and who dies. "Live!" <bangs gavel> "Die!" <bangs gavel> "Die!" ... "Choose. We'll help you whatever the choice is." <bangs gavel> Quote
cannuck Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Deserve's got nothing to do with it. Free will does though. IF there was a quote of the day...week...year, etc. THIS would be it. I do have to concede the point that there needs to be an assessment of soundiness of mind to express said free will. Without that, it would fall to the state to afford protection to the person (such as SHOULD be the case for unborne children). Edited June 18, 2019 by cannuck Quote
Guest Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, cannuck said: IF there was a quote of the day...week...year, etc. THIS would be it. Thank you. I stole most of it from Clint Eastwood. I have been known to post the video... Edited June 18, 2019 by bcsapper Quote
J4L Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 10 hours ago, bcsapper said: Thank you. I stole most of it from Clint Eastwood. I have been known to post the video... I'll see you in hell, William Money. Quote
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