John Otis Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) And the rest of the world too..... why is that, what's stopping you? Seriously, what is stopping you? Is it not true that their people vote in the government which does terrible things? Are they really that powerful and are you so blinded by the $? Is that it? Why was Germany and Japan stopped though..... they were both powerful..... What is the difference between Germany/Japan and the US? Why was Germany and Japan stopped and not the US? Edited April 5, 2019 by John Otis Quote
QuebecOverCanada Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 Why can't you take a break of smoking the crack pipe? 1 Quote
John Otis Posted April 7, 2019 Author Report Posted April 7, 2019 7 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said: Why can't you take a break of smoking the crack pipe? Justin, it's a legitimate question. Why can't you just answer the question? Quote
Altai Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) If you want to destroy US, you should destroy $. US has about 20 trillion $ of GDP and about 15 trillion of it comes from $ and moneylending, not from production/manufacture. So without $, they has a similar GDP to Germany or Japan. Edited April 7, 2019 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
John Otis Posted April 8, 2019 Author Report Posted April 8, 2019 19 hours ago, Altai said: If you want to destroy US, you should destroy $. US has about 20 trillion $ of GDP and about 15 trillion of it comes from $ and moneylending, not from production/manufacture. So without $, they has a similar GDP to Germany or Japan. Okay..... so let's pile up every single $ and burn it and then what? Just so we are clear madam Altai, I want total annihilation for them and then I want Maine. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) On 4/5/2019 at 3:19 AM, John Otis said: Why was Germany and Japan stopped though..... they were both powerful..... What is the difference between Germany/Japan and the US? Why was Germany and Japan stopped and not the US? America is far more powerful than Germany and Japan, even back in WWII, that was the case, it's even more true today than it was back then. That is the difference. Japan and Germany did not have nukes, and still don't. America is the most powerful country on earth, and by a wide margin, and it's impossible to invade, no country has the power projection to invade America, even if a bunch of enemies pooled all their resources to take a run at America, it would fail, miserably. Why do you seem to think taking down America would be so easy? It clearly is not. If you want America to be cut down to size, the only way to do that, is if Russia nuked the CONUS. All other alternatives will not dethrone America as the global superpower, and are a pipe dream of America haters. America is not Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, and thinking that they are combined with a confirmation bias that wants to see America destroyed, is what leads to the faulty reasoning displayed by John Otis here. Edited April 8, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Altai Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Otis said: Okay..... so let's pile up every single $ and burn it and then what? Just so we are clear madam Altai, I want total annihilation for them and then I want Maine. If you want to do that, you should stop using $ as reserve money, so you should stop ask for $ when you sell something. There are some countries trying to do that but this should be a common decision, stopping alone wont work while everyone still using it. For example Russia - China or Russia - Turkiye trying to use their own currencies in trades with each other. Another vital point all countries need oil and natural gas to meet their energy need and US controls or tries to control all countries with oil and natural gas reserves (Saudi, Venezuela etc). So they are forcing you to use $ by selling oil with $. Edited April 8, 2019 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Yzermandius19 Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Altai said: If you want to do that, you should stop using $ as reserve money, so you should stop ask for $ when you sell something. There are some countries trying to do that but this should be a common decision, stopping alone wont work while everyone still using it. For example Russia - China or Russia - Turkiye trying to use their own currencies in trades with each other. Another vital point all countries need oil and natural gas to meet their energy need and US controls or tries to control all countries with oil and natural gas reserves (Saudi, Venezuela etc). So they are forcing you to use $. No, they are simply selling Americans a lot of stuff, and America is paying them in dollars, in return. This results in US dollars flooding the market, which is what makes it the world reserve currency. King Dollah isn't forcing anyone to use it, they simply choose to use it, because they have to do something with the US dollars that America gives them. The only other option would be to sit on the dollars, which simply isn't as profitable as investing those dollars in something with a good ROI. Other countries are more than happy to use US dollars to buy things from other nations, because everyone knows that everyone is more than happy to take US dollars compared to their own lesser currencies. Edited April 8, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
John Otis Posted April 8, 2019 Author Report Posted April 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: Why do you seem to think taking down America would be so easy? It clearly is not. I didn't say it was going to be easy but was it worth it to stop Germany and Japan despite the great sacrifices that humanity made? Wouldn't the same sacrifice or even more be worth it to stop the US? 5 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: America is not Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan Sir.... does this idea come from someone who lives in Afghanistan or Iraq or Iran or Argentina? Or does this come from someone who lives in his cozy Canadian home, enjoying the Canadian way of life and is oblivious to what their neighboring country has done? Quote
John Otis Posted April 8, 2019 Author Report Posted April 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Altai said: So they are forcing you to use $ by selling oil with $. That is why we also have to force the world to stop using the $ otherwise you and everyone you know will be in big trouble. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, John Otis said: I didn't say it was going to be easy but was it worth it to stop Germany and Japan despite the great sacrifices that humanity made? Wouldn't the same sacrifice or even more be worth it to stop the US? No it wouldn't be worth it. Because the world would be worse off without America. America doesn't need to be stopped. Sir.... does this idea come from someone who lives in Afghanistan or Iraq or Iran or Argentina? Who cares what they think? They are in no position to destroy America, even if they wanted to. Or does this come from someone who lives in his cozy Canadian home, enjoying the Canadian way of life and is oblivious to what their neighboring country has done?I am well aware of what America has done on the world stage, and my conclusion is they haven't pissed the world off like you think they have. They are in fact the light of civilization, the shining city on the hill. The world is too addicted to the American economy to hate them the way you think the world hates them, without America, they'd be much worse off and they know it. The existence of a few piddling nations who dislike America more than like it, will not result in it's destruction, or the world ganging up on them to stop them. Russian nukes are your only hope, and they most likely won't nuke America on purpose, but rather by accident, on false warning. It most likely won't have anything to do with being so fed up with America's chit that they preemptively nuke them out of hatred, like you seem to think is their desire, despite refusing to nuke them during the height of the Cold War, when they hated them the most. Edited April 8, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
John Otis Posted April 10, 2019 Author Report Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) On 4/8/2019 at 9:10 PM, Yzermandius19 said: Sir.... does this idea come from someone who lives in Afghanistan or Iraq or Iran or Argentina? Who cares what they think? They are in no position to destroy America, even if they wanted to. Yes, who cares what the hungry, the scared, the ones who have lost their loved ones, the ones who have lost a limb or two, the ones who have lost their homes, their jobs, the ones who have to steal to eat, the ones who are so desperate they are willing to join a bunch of fanatics think. For as long as I enjoy my cozy Canadian home and my wonderful Canadian way of life, who cares what the world thinks. And sir, if 19 men could do this: Imagine what millions if not billions could do? Edited April 10, 2019 by John Otis Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted April 10, 2019 Report Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, John Otis said: Yes, who cares what the hungry, the scared, the ones who have lost their loved ones, the ones who have lost a limb or two, the ones who have lost their homes, their jobs, the ones who have to steal to eat, the ones who are so desperate they are willing to join a bunch of fanatics think. For as long as I enjoy my cozy Canadian home and my wonderful Canadian way of life, who cares what the world thinks. And sir, if 19 men could do this: Imagine what millions if not billions could do? A lot easier to recruit 19 men to do that, then it is to recruit billions to topple America. Why you think that a small fringe group views are indicative of the rest of the world, has to be wishful thinking confirmation bias, you wish more people hated America than actually do, so you go looking for any proof that someone hates America, while ignoring all the proof of people who don't, and the jumping the conclusion that everyone hates America, because you only looked at one side of the equation. The terrorists did not attack America for justifiable reasons, assuming they did is where your analysis jumps the shark, and then you project that belief on the rest of the world. Edited April 10, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
John Otis Posted April 10, 2019 Author Report Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: A lot easier to recruit 19 men to do that, then it is to recruit billions to topple America. It took more than 19 men to defeat Germany and Japan. And that's the point.... if 19 men could inflict so much damage, imagine what billions could do. Edited April 10, 2019 by John Otis Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted April 10, 2019 Report Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, John Otis said: It took more than 19 men to defeat Germany and Japan. And that's the point.... if 19 men could inflict so much damage, imagine what billions could do. Billions aren't going to band together to take America down with one 9/11 after another. Are there not better things to spend time thinking about? Perhaps you should reassess your priorities. Edited April 10, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Altai Posted April 15, 2019 Report Posted April 15, 2019 On 4/8/2019 at 9:47 AM, Altai said: If you want to do that, you should stop using $ as reserve money, so you should stop ask for $ when you sell something. There are some countries trying to do that but this should be a common decision, stopping alone wont work while everyone still using it. For example Russia - China or Russia - Turkiye trying to use their own currencies in trades with each other. Another vital point all countries need oil and natural gas to meet their energy need and US controls or tries to control all countries with oil and natural gas reserves (Saudi, Venezuela etc). So they are forcing you to use $ by selling oil with $. IMF decides to create a cyrpto currency. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/nov/14/imf-says-governments-could-set-up-their-own-cryptocurrencies Saudi oil company Aramco is going to be traded in Shangai Energy Market. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/21/asia/saudi-arabia-china-mohammed-bin-salman-intl/index.html They are planning to sell oil with cyrpto currencies to get rid of $. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Queenmandy85 Posted April 16, 2019 Report Posted April 16, 2019 We could destroy the US, but we just don't feel like it. For all the anti American rhetoric above, they are pretty nice people, just like most people in the world. Evil knows no nationality. Virtue is international. Quote Socialism is the opiate of the intellectual class.
John Otis Posted April 17, 2019 Author Report Posted April 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: We could destroy the US..... You could save millions of lives and make every country prosper...... Quote
John Otis Posted April 17, 2019 Author Report Posted April 17, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 6:42 AM, Altai said: They are planning to sell oil with cyrpto currencies to get rid of $. And that will destroy the US right? Like it would turn their cities into this: And turn them into this: Quote
Altai Posted April 17, 2019 Report Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, John Otis said: And that will destroy the US right? The long term plan is to make each states of US a country. For example Texas will a country alone, Florida will be another country.... and all others. Some of these states are also quite willing for such a plan, even some of them prepared their country flags. The first state which will a be country is Missouri. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
John Otis Posted April 17, 2019 Author Report Posted April 17, 2019 Just now, Altai said: The long term plan is to make each states of US a country. For example Texas will a country alone, Florida will be another country.... and all others. Some of these states are also quite willing for such a plan, even some of them prepared their country flags. The first state which will a be country is Missouri. NO NO NO! I'm talking about like those pictures! Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Posted April 17, 2019 This has to be the dumbest topic on this forum. The US is the first world power to help poorer nations because it is the right thing to do. Look at the way the USSR treated East Germany as compared to the way the US treated West Germany and Japan. If not for the US, we would all be living under the domination of Russia and China. How many refugees has Russia taken in. 1 Quote Socialism is the opiate of the intellectual class.
John Otis Posted April 18, 2019 Author Report Posted April 18, 2019 17 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: This has to be the dumbest topic on this forum. For you. 17 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: The US is the first world power to help poorer nations because it is the right thing to do. Oh you mean how they tried to help Iraq, which led it to be a terrorist infested nation, which spilled to its neighboring country, which in turn has created a mass exodus which has spilled to your nation, which your fellow whites are complaining about on another thread? I hate everyone who defends them. Why are you defending them when they are wrong!? Oh let me guess because Canada benefits from it too, correct? If man won't punish you, then God will and he will do it soon enough. Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted April 18, 2019 Report Posted April 18, 2019 Are you familiar with the Marshall Plan? 1 Quote Socialism is the opiate of the intellectual class.
Carlus Magnus Posted April 22, 2019 Report Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 11:09 PM, John Otis said: And that will destroy the US right? Like it would turn their cities into this: And turn them into this: Why so much hate and desire for genocide ? Quote
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