Boges Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: So ironic that you say that when we’re on the topic of unsubstantiated accusations. Unsubstantiated? https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: You didn't give an example. You just gave a rant that suggested they are biased with some unconvincing anecdotes to support it. Give an example of three lies in five minutes. Give one example of a verifiable lie. Not "wahh, they suggested people having guns has led to people getting shot!" Give me a real lie. I didn’t give “one example”, you’re right. I alluded to something that you know is true though, and it’s not a small one-off thing. It’s the consistent baseline for their entire programming schedule. They set their propaganda machine to “blatant lies” and they just leave it there. It’s like Goebbels said, if you tell the same lie enough times it becomes the truth. You go aling with their rhetoric and you repeat it confidently beecause you get it from the one-eyed god in your living room. It’s like a sewer pipe going right into your brain but you can’t get enough of it. Boges just said Trump lies all the time and he believes it because they say it on CNN. But here’s the thing: Trump made a whole lot of campaign promises and predictions and he did a great job of following up on them. On policy, Trump is a straight shooter compared to 99% of politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Boges said: Unsubstantiated? https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/ They call it politi”fact” so it must be true right? If you can google then you can easily find video of Schumer saying they need a border wall if you look. Now you can plainly see that he is against the wall. So did politifact just lie to you? Probably not, right Boges? Only Trump lies. Lmao. The Dems just started calling walls “racist and ineffective” but everyone with enough brainpower to read a matchbox cover knows that is 100% untrue. Acosta even proved it when he was trying to make a mockery of it. So you can call me a liar or admit that politifact just lied to you but it’s one or the other. I’m saying unequivocally, for the record, that politifact just made you their stooge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I didn’t give “one example”, you’re right. I alluded to something that you know is true though, and it’s not a small one-off thing. It’s the consistent baseline for their entire programming schedule. They set their propaganda machine to “blatant lies” and they just leave it there. It’s like Goebbels said, if you tell the same lie enough times it becomes the truth. You go aling with their rhetoric and you repeat it confidently beecause you get it from the one-eyed god in your living room. It’s like a sewer pipe going right into your brain but you can’t get enough of it. Boges just said Trump lies all the time and he believes it because they say it on CNN. But here’s the thing: Trump made a whole lot of campaign promises and predictions and he did a great job of following up on them. On policy, Trump is a straight shooter compared to 99% of politicians. If you can call people liars, surely you can give an example of a specific instance when they blatantly lied. If they have a "constant baseline" of lies, there are examples. Give just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: They call it politi”fact” so it must be true right? If you can google then you can easily find video of Schumer saying they need a border wall if you look. Now you can plainly see that he is against the wall. So did politifact just lie to you? Probably not, right Boges? Only Trump lies. Lmao. The Dems just started calling walls “racist and ineffective” but everyone with enough brainpower to read a matchbox cover knows that is 100% untrue. Acosta even proved it when he was trying to make a mockery of it. So you can call me a liar or admit that politifact just lied to you but it’s one or the other. I’m saying unequivocally, for the record, that politifact just made you their stooge. So that's the tactic. It's whatever Facts you choose to believe. If that's the case there's no real possibility of intelligent debate. I do know I saw a video where Trump said he'll take the blame for this Shutdown and now he's blaming the "Dems". I do know I've seen a video where he said Mexico will pay for this Wall only to Shut government down because congress won't allocate $5 billion to it. I do know I saw him deny knowing any knowledge of an payout with Porn Stars only to have his lawyers claim it was a private transaction and not illegal. I do know I've seen him state he had no dealing with Russia to then find out throughout the entire campaign he was trying to get a Trump Tower built in Moscow. I could go on. His lies can be verified by actual video. Edited January 18, 2019 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 BTW regarding Schumer, it states he was for the 2006 Fencing Act. Which is different then a wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, Boges said: BTW regarding Schumer, it states he was for the 2006 Fencing Act. Which is different then a wall. So the real liar is clear in this case, and it ain't CNN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 18 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Here’s a quote of yours from the kavanaugh thread. It was on about p17: ”Neither his career nor his family seems to have been ruined at all. And it is clear he is far from innocent. There are a number of people now speaking about what a drinker he was and what a surly, mean drunk he was.“ but you didn’t say that you didn’t believe him? No, I didn't. I was talking about his behaviour on the stand, and his obviously misleading answers to questions about his drinking. I don't think I ever even mentioned the he said/she said because there's really know way of knowing who was lying and by how much. 18 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Bill Clinton did all those things Trump did, and FAR WORSE!! Hillary backed all that and called his victims names. She’s a disgusting piece of garbage and if you can’t admit that then you’re just a liar. Man, you worship at the alter of Trump. You donl't have the right to call ANYONE a disgusting piece of garbage while worshiping that shit-stain. I am no admirer of Clinton, but there is no doubt she spent years of her life working to help people, even well before politics. Trump meanwhile, has never done anything good for anyone, nor even tried. He's been a selfish, greedy, lying, bullying, narcissistic asshole his whole life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 54 minutes ago, Argus said: .... I am no admirer of Clinton, but there is no doubt she spent years of her life working to help people, even well before politics. Trump meanwhile, has never done anything good for anyone, nor even tried. He's been a selfish, greedy, lying, bullying, narcissistic asshole his whole life. No, she spent years of her life to help Clinton political ambitions and power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimwd Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Right. That’s why I have dozens of posts on here pointing out specific lies on CNN. If you want a good, general feel for the magnitude and the entire culture of their lying just think about their coverage of Clinton, Kavanaugh and Trump. Trump slept with independent, strong women. Groped some bikini pageant contestants. But he never raped anyone, slept with any interns, and he has no history of sexually harassing or assaulting his employees. On a predator scale of 1 to 10 he’s actually a 2 or 3, but he’s a bad husband. CNN paints him as a far bigger villain than Clinton. They wouldn’t even acknowledge Clinton did a single thing until he admitted it to a grand jury. Kavanaugh - one 30 yr old accusation of an attempted rape by a victim who was proven to have lied on several instances in her testimony, her best friends can’t recall her ever talking about the “horrific event”, she can’t say where or what year it happened. But according to CNN and the Dems her testimony was absolute proof: “she has to be believed”. BK is suddenly a monster, but he has 200 character witnesses saying otherwise. “BUT ONE GUYS SAYS HE THREW SOME ICE AND STARTED A FIGHT WHEN HE WAS 23!! OMFG!!!! HE’S THE NEXT ADOLF HITLER!!!!!!” That’s CNN. Clinton: several of his former employees, who are credible witnesses, say that he sexually harassed them. 2 of them claim that he bit their lips and forced them to have sex. He had an affair with an intern. So he has a long history of abusing several women who work for him. On a sexual predator scale he’s a 9. He’s not just “bad touching” some bikini contest tarts or having consensual sex. He’s forcing his employees to do the nasty. Threatening them and using force. He was CNN’s darling. The best they could muster against his character is Jake Tapper saying “maybe we were too easy on Bill Clinton”. Once. Honestly look at the treatment that CNN gave those 3 people, look how they protected one and completely vilified the other two, and try to tell me that you think CNN has an ounce of credibility left. Seriously try to tell me that you think CNN can ever be believed, or trusted to report on the news in an accurate, unbiased manner. Guys run into nightclubs praising allah and killing people, they try to blame Republicans lol. THAT’S FUCKIN RETARDED! Sorry there’s no other way to say it with enough emphasis. People use trucks and bombs to commit terrorist attacks they want to talk about gun control. CNN is garbage. I can watch 5 minutes and catch them lying 3 times. 3 times?trumps over 10,000 lies now .. you sure fell for the right wing con job, bet you fell for the conjob mexico woukd pay for a wall, Edited January 19, 2019 by Jimwd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 8 hours ago, BubberMiley said: If you can call people liars, surely you can give an example of a specific instance when they blatantly lied. If they have a "constant baseline" of lies, there are examples. Give just one. Ok. I’m taping Don Lemon’s show. It starts in 11 minutes. I’ll find you some lies from the first 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Jimwd said: 3 times?trumps over 10,000 lies now .. you sure fell for the right wing con job, bet you fell for the conjob mexico woukd pay for a wall, Grow up dude, the stupid “Trump lie counter” was already debunked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Boges said: So that's the tactic. It's whatever Facts you choose to believe. If that's the case there's no real possibility of intelligent debate. I do know I saw a video where Trump said he'll take the blame for this Shutdown and now he's blaming the "Dems". I do know I've seen a video where he said Mexico will pay for this Wall only to Shut government down because congress won't allocate $5 billion to it. I do know I saw him deny knowing any knowledge of an payout with Porn Stars only to have his lawyers claim it was a private transaction and not illegal. I do know I've seen him state he had no dealing with Russia to then find out throughout the entire campaign he was trying to get a Trump Tower built in Moscow. I could go on. His lies can be verified by actual video. The “tactic” is I just explained to you how idiotic your site was and you can’t counter my claim so you chose to throw down some sandbox insults instead. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Argus said: No, I didn't. I was talking about his behaviour on the stand, and his obviously misleading answers to questions about his drinking. I don't think I ever even mentioned the he said/she said because there's really know way of knowing who was lying and by how much. Who the hell are you to say that you know more about Kavanaugh’s drinking than him and his character witnesses? If I was here trying to lecture you on Bill Clinton’s drinking habits from 1988 based on one or two people’s comments you’d notice how idiotic that was. The guy was in university for about 7 years. If he didn’t get drunk a few times in 7 years there would be something wrong with him. That doesn’t mean that he has to characterize himself as a raging alcoholic. Quote Man, you worship at the alter of Trump. You donl't have the right to call ANYONE a disgusting piece of garbage while worshiping that shit-stain. I am no admirer of Clinton, but there is no doubt she spent years of her life working to help people, even well before politics. Trump meanwhile, has never done anything good for anyone, nor even tried. He's been a selfish, greedy, lying, bullying, narcissistic asshole his whole life. If you can’t acknowledge the difference between a rapist/abuser and butt-grabber/philanderer your opinion is completely worthless. You could benefit from a kindergarten-level ethics course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimwd Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Grow up dude, the stupid “Trump lie counter” was already debunked. By who? A right wing birther site? It’s not like we can’t hear trump lie daily. He flew to Iraq and lied to the troops. Going to deny it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimwd Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: The “tactic” is I just explained to you how idiotic your site was and you can’t counter my claim so you chose to throw down some sandbox insults instead. 8) You just got destroyed and you don’t know it. Hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimwd Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 21 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I didn’t give “one example”, you’re right. I alluded to something that you know is true though, and it’s not a small one-off thing. It’s the consistent baseline for their entire programming schedule. They set their propaganda machine to “blatant lies” and they just leave it there. It’s like Goebbels said, if you tell the same lie enough times it becomes the truth. You go aling with their rhetoric and you repeat it confidently beecause you get it from the one-eyed god in your living room. It’s like a sewer pipe going right into your brain but you can’t get enough of it. Boges just said Trump lies all the time and he believes it because they say it on CNN. But here’s the thing: Trump made a whole lot of campaign promises and predictions and he did a great job of following up on them. On policy, Trump is a straight shooter compared to 99% of politicians. It’s like Goebbels said, if you tell the same lie enough times it becomes the truth. “I didn’t say there was no collusion” Rudy Giuliani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 9:54 PM, WestCanMan said: The “tactic” is I just explained to you how idiotic your site was and you can’t counter my claim so you chose to throw down some sandbox insults instead. 8) I just did, the claim is that Schumer supported a Fencing Act, not the construction of a multi-billion dollar concrete wall. Cite the Sandbox Insult? I just highlight demonstrable lies Trump has told. No need for Fake News claims, it's there on video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 7:08 PM, Jimwd said: By who? A right wing birther site? It’s not like we can’t hear trump lie daily. He flew to Iraq and lied to the troops. Going to deny it? Dumb question. No surprise there. Am I supposed to know what “lie” you’re referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 7:36 PM, Jimwd said: You just got destroyed and you don’t know it. Hilarious Destroyed? I just showed a specific example of the fact checker site lying. Hiw is that “ getting destroyed”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Boges said: I just did, the claim is that Schumer supported a Fencing Act, not the construction of a multi-billion dollar concrete wall. Cite the Sandbox Insult? I just highlight demonstrable lies Trump has told. No need for Fake News claims, it's there on video. Fence. Wall. How is it that one can be racist and the other isn’t Boges? Do you need me to find video of those dolts saying the wall is racist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimwd Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Destroyed? I just showed a specific example of the fact checker site lying. Hiw is that “ getting destroyed”? You ignored every fact he quoted like it didn’t exist, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 8:50 PM, WestCanMan said: Ok. I’m taping Don Lemon’s show. It starts in 11 minutes. I’ll find you some lies from the first 5 minutes. Still waiting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 14 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Fence. Wall. How is it that one can be racist and the other isn’t Boges? Do you need me to find video of those dolts saying the wall is racist? Ahh so if you're for some fencing then a transcontinental concrete wall is the natural progression in logic. Trump is racist for trying to portray people seeking asylum from oppressive violence as a grave threat to nation. Amongst other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, BubberMiley said: Still waiting... I watched the first 10 minutes. He didn't really say anything factual so it's hard to say that he "lied". He was saying that Donald Trump was "embracing" the Iowa politician who came out with the racist comment the other day. They made it seem like Trump was in contact with him since he made the statements but they never said how or when. It wasn't "true" but it's impossible for anyone to say that he didn't without access to Trump's email and phone records. Pretty standard fare for CNN. Serious and unsubstantiated accusations galore with no substance. The Dems are all guilty of supporting Farrakhan and not speaking out against the rioting, looting and cop-killings of 2015 and 2016. CNN "never noticed". Go figger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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