montgomery Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Centerpiece said: 10 years of Stephen Harper helped to maintain our standing as one of the best countries in the world to live in. Interesting! 10 years wasn't lone enough for Harper to destroy Canada's standing as one of the happiest countries in the world. The other 9 stand for everything to which a truthful Conservative would be totally opposed. https://www.forbes.com/sites/duncanmadden/2018/03/27/ranked-the-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world-in-2018/#cf745173e919 It's all about socially responsible capitalism, as opposed to the Conservative/US ideal of greedy Capitalism which promote huge income inequality as is the situation in the US. And that's before Trump even started his reign of terror! Edited January 8, 2019 by montgomery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, turningrite said: I've been told to ignore your posts. Just play the ball, look at what it is that you are saying that is bothering the troll to make him want to troll you, then double down on that, but not angry, ice cold. Whatever it is in the trolls post that you are interested in responding to, just respond to that, and edit out the rest. If its all just "you are this and you are that and you are wrong", that's all fallacy, so there's no reason to respond to any of that at all. None of that is doing any damage so just let him spin his wheels there. And don't chase him up and down the board, you are bothering him, that is why he is trolling you, so just do your own thing and let him chase after you. Edited January 8, 2019 by Dougie93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montgomery Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Fascism? Plz explain. Excellent! I'm glad you asked and I'm more than happy to expand the conversation on Trump's behaviour in the US and how Canada could become much the same if we ever allowed a CPC government. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fascism fascism The only official definition of Fascism comes from Benito Mussolini, the founder of fascism, in which he outlines three principles of a fascist philosophy. 1."Everything in the state". The Government is supreme and the country is all-encompasing, and all within it must conform to the ruling body, often a dictator. 2."Nothing outside the state". The country must grow and the implied goal of any fascist nation is to rule the world, and have every human submit to the government. 3."Nothing against the state". Any type of questioning the government is not to be tolerated. If you do not see things our way, you are wrong. If you do not agree with the government, you cannot be allowed to live and taint the minds of the rest of the good citizens. The use of militarism was implied only as a means to accomplish one of the three above principles, mainly to keep the people and rest of the world in line. Edited January 8, 2019 by montgomery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Nah, that's not it, militarism comes first, because at its core fascism is revanchism, to revenge yourself upon the scapegoats of your ethno-natioalist fasces for perceived grievances, generally in the wake of national humiliation by military defeat and/or economic collapse, the ultimate purpose to make war of annihilation to restore lost glory. In the case of Mussolini and Franco to make war of annihilation internally against the socialist left, in the case of Hitler to make war of annihilation externally against the Jewish-Bolshevik Conspiracy to the East. It's Ancient Roman inspired, so its all about glorification, glorification of the masculine, glorification of the military, glorification of the empire. Soldier-Legion-Imperator. Edited January 8, 2019 by Dougie93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WestCanMan Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, montgomery said: Nothing that will show up when I quote his post. Just the definition of fascism. So, if I say that Trudeau is a prostitute, and copy and paste the definition of prostitute, then somehow according to your logic that would constitute proof that he's a prostitute? I don't actually need the dictionary, I just need you to explain what Trump is doing to citizens who speak out against him, what types of information he is banning, and how he is refusing to tolerate any questioning of the government, etc. His administration turned in over 1M pages of documents to the FBI. Is that kind of like demanding that as the supreme leader he is above the law? That's in stark contrast to Hillary Clinton who refused to turn things in, deleted emails and used bleachbot on the servers, and then claimed to not remember anything at all when she was questioned by the FBI. Funny thing is that she was in the midst of her presidential campaign when she "hit her head and temporarily suffered memory loss" but it only affected her ability to talk about her crimes. She could talk at length about her desire to seize power for herself. Hillary has a habit of losing documents that are required for investigations into her crimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montgomery Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: So, if I say that Trudeau is a prostitute, and copy and paste the definition of prostitute, then somehow according to your logic that would constitute proof that he's a prostitute? I don't actually need the dictionary, I just need you to explain what Trump is doing to citizens who speak out against him, what types of information he is banning, and how he is refusing to tolerate any questioning of the government, etc. His administration turned in over 1M pages of documents to the FBI. Is that kind of like demanding that as the supreme leader he is above the law? That's in stark contrast to Hillary Clinton who refused to turn things in, deleted emails and used bleachbot on the servers, and then claimed to not remember anything at all when she was questioned by the FBI. Funny thing is that she was in the midst of her presidential campaign when she "hit her head and temporarily suffered memory loss" but it only affected her ability to talk about her crimes. She could talk at length about her desire to seize power for herself. Hillary has a habit of losing documents that are required for investigations into her crimes. No, the prostitute accusation against Trudeau doesn't make him a prostitute and the same with the fascist accusation. Both woule require some substantiation to make it so. But the major importance in what you are saying as a CPC supporter is that you find little or nothing wrong with the Trump regime in the US, and so I can conclude that you would see noting wrong in the CPC following in that psychopath's footsteps. My battle with Conservative ideaology is nearing an end once we have that established. The people of Canada will never accept the extreme rightist agenda of the Trump regime, and so you Conservatives applauding it is a sure indication of your acceptance of that nonsense for Canada. See my OP for the details. Now I could proceed to take the Trump regime apart to expose it for the evil it truly does represent, but why bother. Canadians are already aware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, montgomery said: Now I could proceed to take the Trump regime apart to expose it for the evil it truly does represent, but why bother. Canadians are already aware! When a terrorist supporter calls something evil it's like a double negative, the two evils cancel each other out. So the fact that you call "Trump's agenda" evil must make it awesome for decent people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centerpiece Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 hours ago, montgomery said: You're asking me to ignore all the Trump support we're hearing spewed continuously by Conservative supporters on this board S The Con supporters on this forum don't feel that way about Harper. In fact they're trying to distance the party from him! Where have you been? oh, you're suggesting they're eco and UN elitists?? What is that anyway? Your term, 'eco-elitist?? Firstly - your hatred of Trump should best be portrayed on this board's US politics. Secondly - as for Harper's being respected by world leaders - he just happened to drop in on Indian Prime Minister Modi recently. Link: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montgomery Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Centerpiece said: Firstly - your hatred of Trump should best be portrayed on this board's US politics. Secondly - as for Harper's being respected by world leaders - he just happened to drop in on Indian Prime Minister Modi recently. F irstly, I'll discuss Trump anywhere I feel that he fits in the discussion. He fits in this one, get it? And secondly, I didn't watch the vid because I'm not really interested in what and how Harper is selling out our country in other countries of the world. He's a hasbeen creepy little boy who's sucking up to world leaders out of turn. Edited January 9, 2019 by montgomery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 9 hours ago, montgomery said: irstly, I'll discuss Trump anywhere I feel that he fits in the discussion. He fits in this one, get it? No. Staying on topic is VERY important in this forum. This thread is temporarily locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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