BubberMiley Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 3 hours ago, betsy said: Yep. She was asked to step down. She asked Sarah Sanders to leave......and now, she was asked to leave. Karma can't get dished out any faster than that! https://www.virginiafirst.com/news/local-news/owner-of-red-hen-restaurant-resigns-from-position-with-non-profit-organization/1264951736 The irony of an Executive Director of a non-profit organization whose responsibility is to enhance the economic prosperity of this community, being the cause of this? She picked a fine time too, what with the looming trade wars that would affect everyone! https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/06/26/red-hen-sarah-sanders-visit-leaves-lexington-virginia-reeling/733196002/ You can see how how irresponsible it was of Sanders to target a private business and why it is illegal for her to do things like that. She should have sucked it up like a professional and not gotten petty revenge on the people SHE is supposed to serve. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
GostHacked Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 A private business has the right to refuse service for any reason. Quote
turningrite Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, paxrom said: He won't fail. You know why? Because he's an American president. He has the world strongest, economic, intellectual, moral, military power at his side. Say what you will of trump personal life but don't forget he is in the office of the presidency. He has the best tools and minds at his disposal. 1.) Your response is suggestive of what many in the rest of the world perceive as an American conceit. Actually, it's likely quite possible that an American president can fail by assuming the subservience of the rest of the world to American interests and policies. China will soon eclipse America's economic power and the EU's GDP isn't far behind. (Actually in terms of purchasing power parity, the EU's GDP, when including the UK, surpasses that of the U.S.). Canada is a mere minnow in this shark tank but you shouldn't underestimate broader economic trends that demonstrate the relative decline of the U.S. share of the world's economic activity. Trump can never restore American "greatness" in this regard. The U.S. is now merely one of a few big fish in the economic sea. 2.) Military power has little applicability to America's trade relations with its allies. And its moral authority has declined considerably as well in the short time Trump has been in office. I recently watched a documentary on the rise of trade in a historical context, which noted that the key component to successful trading relationships is trust among trading partners. Trump is in the process of blowing up trust held by America's closest allies. How will this not backfire? If the NAFTA collapses, as appears likely, many Canadians will likely resist resurrecting anything resembling it. They didn't broadly support it when it came into force in the 1980s and even fairly recent polling suggests that they believe it's done more harm than good. Their only concern now is undergoing wrenching change if it collapses, as occurred after it was implemented. But grudging support based on fear isn't much to boast about. 3.) Experts have been jumping off Trump's ship at an alarming rate. The basic concern with Trump's style appears to be that he must be told what he wants to hear and quickly dumps those who don't feed his ego and/or don't agree with him. Perhaps this, above all else, will doom his presidency unless he changes course. Great leaders don't surround themselves with sycophants. Edited June 27, 2018 by turningrite Quote
betsy Posted June 27, 2018 Author Report Posted June 27, 2018 Wilkinson is freakin' Meryll Streep's cousin! No wonder! https://me.me/i/meryl-streeps-cousin-kicked-sarah-sanders-out-of-the-red-22981365 Quote
Jimwd Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 5 hours ago, betsy said: I bet the protest at the Red Hen won't go away any time soon. Hopefully, Wilkinson is financially prepared for this. Her employees too. How long can a 26-seat restaurant last without any revenue? It'll be hard to unload that property too, with that kind of baggage hanging on its neck. It's a small town. The kind where everyone know each other. Especially on Main Street. I wonder if any local establishments will hire employees from the Red Hen? If I were a Republican, I wouldn't eat anywhere with that chef cooking. He'll be the type to make mischief on my food. Same with those waiters. Heck, even if I'm not a Republican......what if they might think I am? <humming Leaving on A Jet Plane> Yet bakers shouldnt Serve gays, but you support serving fascists, Quote
Jimwd Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, betsy said: Wilkinson is freakin' Meryll Streep's cousin! No wonder! https://me.me/i/meryl-streeps-cousin-kicked-sarah-sanders-out-of-the-red-22981365 Meryl Streep one of the best actresses of our time. trump reality tv conman who paid 25 million for defrauding Americans at his con man trump u scam. Edited June 27, 2018 by Jimwd Quote
betsy Posted June 27, 2018 Author Report Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jimwd said: Meryl Streep one of the best actresses of our time. That's what they say. Uhm.....I beg to disagree. Some actresses are a lot better. Frances McDormand is one. Edited June 27, 2018 by betsy Quote
Jimwd Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 Just now, betsy said: That's what they say. Uhm.....I beg to disagree. Your opinion isn’t relevant . Her fan base is. Quote
betsy Posted June 27, 2018 Author Report Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jimwd said: Your opinion isn’t relevant . Her fan base is. Well I'm not a fan! And, you're in my thread! Furthermore, we're not talking about acting prowess! Your opinion is irrelevant here! Create your worship thread on big-headed Streep! I'm about to say something about her faithful fans.....but I better not. Edited June 27, 2018 by betsy Quote
Jimwd Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 1 minute ago, betsy said: Well I'm not a fan! And, you're in my thread! Having a thread doesn’t mean you get to make up facts. Meryl Streep is recognized world wide as an highly accomplished actress, Your irrational Jim jones cult mentality doesn’t change that. And trump is a reality tv conman who conned you. Quote
betsy Posted June 27, 2018 Author Report Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, GostHacked said: A private business has the right to refuse service for any reason. So....the baker and the florist were within their rights to refuse catering to gay weddings. Anyway, it's not accurate to say a business has the right to refuse service for any reason. Quote The answer is that you can refuse to serve someone even if they’re in a protected group, but the refusal can’t be arbitrary and you can’t apply it to just one group of people. To avoid being arbitrary, there must be a reason for refusing service and you must be consistent. https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/the-right-to-refuse-service-can-a-business-refuse-service-to-someone-because-of-appearance Wilkinson, by her own admittance, is not consistent. She singled out Sarah Sanders. Edited June 27, 2018 by betsy Quote
BubberMiley Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, betsy said: So....the baker and the florist were within their rights to refuse catering to gay weddings. Anyway, it's not accurate to say a business has the right to refuse service for any reason. https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/the-right-to-refuse-service-can-a-business-refuse-service-to-someone-because-of-appearance Wilkinson, by her own admittance, is not consistent. She singled out Sarah Sanders. She consistently doesn't serve Trump administration officials. Sanders is just the first in her restaurant. It's funny to watch you pull a complete 180 on the idea that restaurants should be allowed to serve whomever they please. And yet no cognitive dissonance. I wonder why that is. But the only one who clearly broke the law in this situation is Sanders when she used her government account to attack private individuals and send a mob after them. It's really pathetic that people would defend that sort of behaviour in a public official. She should resign and be charged under the law. 1 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 50 minutes ago, betsy said: Wilkinson is freakin' Meryll Streep's cousin! No wonder! https://me.me/i/meryl-streeps-cousin-kicked-sarah-sanders-out-of-the-red-22981365 Remind me again. You don't like Meryl Streep because she said people shouldn't accept the mocking of disabled people, without naming names? I can see how a true Christian would find words like that offensive. 2 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
paxamericana Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, turningrite said: 1.) Your response is suggestive of what many in the rest of the world perceive as an American conceit. Actually, it's likely quite possible that an American president can fail by assuming the subservience of the rest of the world to American interests and policies. China will soon eclipse America's economic power and the EU's GDP isn't far behind. (Actually in terms of purchasing power parity, the EU's GDP, when including the UK, surpasses that of the U.S.). Canada is a mere minnow in this shark tank but you shouldn't underestimate broader economic trends that demonstrate the relative decline of the U.S. share of the world's economic activity. Trump can never restore American "greatness" in this regard. The U.S. is now merely one of a few big fish in the economic sea. 2.) Military power has little applicability to America's trade relations with its allies. And its moral authority has declined considerably as well in the short time Trump has been in office. I recently watched a documentary on the rise of trade in a historical context, which noted that the key component to successful trading relationships is trust among trading partners. Trump is in the process of blowing up trust held by America's closest allies. How will this not backfire? If the NAFTA collapses, as appears likely, many Canadians will likely resist resurrecting anything resembling it. They didn't broadly support it when it came into force in the 1980s and even fairly recent polling suggests that they believe it's done more harm than good. Their only concern now is undergoing wrenching change if it collapses, as occurred after it was implemented. But grudging support based on fear isn't much to boast about. 3.) Experts have been jumping off Trump's ship at an alarming rate. The basic concern with Trump's style appears to be that he must be told what he wants to hear and quickly dumps those who don't feed his ego and/or don't agree with him. Perhaps this, above all else, will doom his presidency unless he changes course. Great leaders don't surround themselves with sycophants. 1. You're viewing this as a zero sum game. The US is not in decline as you mentioned, we're simply renegotiating trade agreements. If anything, if you look at the activities of our ambassador and state department this year you'll notice that we are steaming ahead with bilateral relations all around the world. We're not on course for an isolationist agenda. Something a lot of trump critics fail to realize. Trump is merely exposing the current issue with trade. China's activities are increasingly similar to that of their Ming dynasty model with other countries simply serving as Vassal states. Look at their predatory trade and military relationship with their neighbors in the indo-pacific. You want to sign up for that? Good luck. Whilst china may produce a higher over all gdp in the future simply because they have more people but their GDP per capita is something to be desired. Second, European countries are already waking up to the emerging threat china poses on their door step. They see China for what it is, let me tell you, they're in no rush to be dealing business with china. https://www.brookings.edu/testimonies/chinas-relations-with-u-s-allies-and-partners-in-europe/ 2. Military power goes hand in hand with economic relationship, you can't have one without the other unless you're Canada who solely rely on the US for protection. America's moral authority is still the number one in the world. You're viewing moral authority too narrowly. Moral authority is in regards to a country's image of fairness, willingness and ability to do the right thing. Something that America has proven for nearly 70 years in the post world war 2 order. I don't think any other country in the world posses those qualities as much as america. Why do you think we're always in the lead when it comes to multilateral action. NAFTA needed to be renegotiated because supply management and unfair trade practices still exist between allies and there's no need to. All countries exercising in trade should adopt true free trade. We've been doing that since the Marshal plan. That's why our economy isn't export dependent and continues to be the envy of the world. 3. Trump isn't a career politician. He's very apt to speak his mind, something you me and everyone else on this forum has the luxury to do. But career politician often hold back on their thoughts to not insight criticism, not because they're any better than Trump. Trump has to be able to work with those he can work with, that's the office of the presidency. Every president has loss staff and I see no difference in this administration with regards to staffing as compared to say... Obama or Bush. If people like our secretary of defense James N Mattis, sign up with trump I think we are in good hands. Crap, I forgot this is suppose to be about idiot restaurants. Apologies to the OP Edited June 27, 2018 by paxrom Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 2 hours ago, BubberMiley said: She consistently doesn't serve Trump administration officials. Sanders is just the first in her restaurant. It's funny to watch you pull a complete 180 on the idea that restaurants should be allowed to serve whomever they please. And yet no cognitive dissonance. I wonder why that is. But the only one who clearly broke the law in this situation is Sanders when she used her government account to attack private individuals and send a mob after them. It's really pathetic that people would defend that sort of behaviour in a public official. She should resign and be charged under the law. The left has a long history of trotting out celebrities and regular people to spew propaganda with the expectation that they either shouldn't be confronted or if they do, it's the big mean righties picking on the innocent. The fact is; these people are willingly stepping into the ring and deserve whatever repercussions that come their way. We saw it with the "gold star" muslim family, the little girl who went on stage to say "don't take my mommy". There is Streep, Fox, Deniro, Meathead, Moore (and all the rest) and now this restaurant. Look, you want to make a big political statement, fair enough, but there will be a price to be paid. P.S - Meryl Streep is a wonderful actor, Deniro used to be, but seems to be a losing his mind - too bad. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
BubberMiley Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Hal 9000 said: The left has a long history of trotting out celebrities and regular people to spew propaganda with the expectation that they either shouldn't be confronted or if they do, it's the big mean righties picking on the innocent. The fact is; these people are willingly stepping into the ring and deserve whatever repercussions that come their way. No, on the contrary, the fact is that Sanders is the one who made it a public issue (illegally). They were private citizens running a private business with no expectation of being part of the public conversation because making it public would have required Sanders to act petty, irresponsible, and unprofessional and break the law. Unfortunately, that turned out to be the case. But can you provide some examples of "this long history of the left"? Sounds like BS to me. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Hal 9000 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 Well, I did provide examples. I can also add the gays antagonizing the bakery and so forth but... Saunders went to what she considered a quaint little eatery and was booted out by someone making a political statement. That someone chose to publicly enter into the political arena. If she gets any blowback, it's from her own doing. 1 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
BubberMiley Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Well, I did provide examples. I can also add the gays antagonizing the bakery and so forth but... Saunders went to what she considered a quaint little eatery and was booted out by someone making a political statement. That someone chose to publicly enter into the political arena. If she gets any blowback, it's from her own doing. You haven't been following very closely. Sanders chose to publicly out the person (and break the law in the process). To simplify for you, it was Sanders who made it public. No one should expect her to break the law, abuse her position, and recklessly try to gather a mob to attack private citizens. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
betsy Posted June 27, 2018 Author Report Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, BubberMiley said: Remind me again. You don't like Meryl Streep because she said people shouldn't accept the mocking of disabled people, without naming names? I can see how a true Christian would find words like that offensive. Hahahaha! The Christian card! The Christian card! Let's highlight that.....so no one misses it. Music to my ears....... That means, you must really be tanking. Edited June 27, 2018 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted June 27, 2018 Author Report Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: You haven't been following very closely. Sanders chose to publicly out the person GOOD FOR HER! Out the morons! Let's not be coy about it. Enough is enough! Lucky for brain-dead Wilkinson, nobody took her to court (like what they do to bakers and florists)! Ever seen a business owner slam dunk her own business out of petty partisanship? Exhibit A for dysfunctional leftist mentality! Related to Streep eh? A new take on "ALL IN THE FAMILY" - reality sitcom! Edited June 27, 2018 by betsy Quote
BubberMiley Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 52 minutes ago, betsy said: Hahahaha! The Christian card! The Christian card! Let's highlight that.....so no one misses it. Music to my ears....... That means, you must really be tanking. So, yes, you don't like her because she had the nerve to say that disabled people shouldn't be mocked. I thought so. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 48 minutes ago, betsy said: GOOD FOR HER! Out the morons! Let's not be coy about it. Enough is enough! Lucky for brain-dead Wilkinson, nobody took her to court (like what they do to bakers and florists)! Ever seen a business owner slam dunk her own business out of petty partisanship? Exhibit A for dysfunctional leftist mentality! Related to Streep eh? A new take on "ALL IN THE FAMILY" - reality sitcom! What Wilkinson did isn't against the law. What Sanders did is. Wilkinson isn't a public figure. Sanders is. Meryl Streep is the greatest actress of her generation. Sarah Sanders is the worse press secretary ever. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
betsy Posted June 27, 2018 Author Report Posted June 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: What Wilkinson did isn't against the law. What Sanders did is. Wilkinson isn't a public figure. Sanders is. Meryl Streep is the greatest actress of her generation. Sarah Sanders is the worse press secretary ever. Streep! Wilkinson! Cousins! All in the family! Quote
BubberMiley Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, betsy said: Streep! Wilkinson! Cousins! All in the family! Yes, given that Sanders behaved very unprofessionally and broke the law, I can see how you feel threatened by the woman she attacked. You're correct in pointing out she has no excuse. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
taxme Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 10 hours ago, betsy said: I bet the protest at the Red Hen won't go away any time soon. Hopefully, Wilkinson is financially prepared for this. Her employees too. How long can a 26-seat restaurant last without any revenue? It'll be hard to unload that property too, with that kind of baggage hanging on its neck. It's a small town. The kind where everyone know each other. Especially on Main Street. I wonder if any local establishments will hire employees from the Red Hen? If I were a Republican, I wouldn't eat anywhere with that chef cooking. He'll be the type to make mischief on my food. Same with those waiters. Heck, even if I'm not a Republican......what if they might think I am? <humming Leaving on A Jet Plane> This is what happens to those who watch and listen to the fake and lying left wing liberal media like CNN and MSNBC and dumbocrat Maxine Waters. Those so-called journalists and reporters are nothing more than a bunch of left wing liberal actors and activists and Waters is just plain an a-hole and those a-holes could careless about America or the American people. Those employees of that restaurant thought that they were being smart azzes. It backfired. I too if I were a Republican would be afraid to eat at a restaurant where those soon to be unemployed people were serving or cooking my food. I bet that they would spit right into their food if they got the chance. The owner of that restaurant had the chance to keep her mouth shut but she did not. And now she has to pay for it. Looks good on her. They probably will be hitchhiking and not take a plane because they probably do not have enough money to take a plane. 1 Quote
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