Jimwd Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, taxme said: Go, Judicial Watch, go. Not judicial watch that are going, It’s Harley Davidson jobs that are going. Quote
taxme Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 17 hours ago, BubberMiley said: How did you feel when Trump encouraged his security to rough up protesters, or when Sanders used her government account illegally to identify the restaurant so people could target it? Hard being self-righteous when the president himself says things to his mob like "Part of the problem is people don't want to hurt each other anymore." https://youtu.be/qiA7x1z3uwo I have never heard Trump say at any of his rallies to have security rough up protesters. If he did I am pretty sure that he was just joking. Maxine Waters is not joking. She has crossed the line. Trump has not said to any of his followers to go out and harass anyone who belongs to the democratic party in restaurants, theaters, gas stations and even at their homes(sacred ground). But maybe the conservatives should do the same. Give them a taste of their own left wing liberal medicine. Works for me. Liberals and democrats are very lucky that the conservatives do not have a mob mentality. They might just be in big trouble for all the bull chit that they have said about Trump which were all lies. If the liberals/democrats don't quite with their trying to constantly promote hatred and violence towards Trump and the people working for him there just may some hatred and violence done towards them. You can only push people so far. It would appear as though Maxine Waters wants people to get hurt. Deplorable. Quote
paxamericana Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jimwd said: Not judicial watch that are going, It’s Harley Davidson jobs that are going. He's pisssed! He's been tweeting about taxing them . Quote
taxme Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jimwd said: Not judicial watch that are going, It’s Harley Davidson jobs that are going. Harley Davidson is not shutting down shop in America and moving to Europe. What HD is doing is they are going to open up shops in the EU to avoid having to pay a tariff on their motorcycles being exported to the EU. They are not leaving America. Smart move on their part. Now you have been told the other side of the story. Nice try in trying to make Trump look bad again. You are such a left wing liberal loser. Judicial Watch will be staying in America and will be constantly exposing the lies as to what that elite ilk that you appear to support are exposed. Go, Trump, go. Go, Judicial Watch, go. Quote
Jimwd Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, paxrom said: He's pisssed! He's been tweeting about taxing them . Trump would’ve been better off to just continue Obama‘s policies which are responsible for unprecedented job growth . Now that he’s going to mess with the economy watch what happens. Quote
Jimwd Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, taxme said: Harley Davidson is not shutting down shop in America and moving to Europe. What HD is doing is they are going to open up shops in the EU to avoid having to pay a tariff on their motorcycles being exported to the EU. They are not leaving America. Smart move on their part. Now you have been told the other side of the story. Nice try in trying to make Trump look bad again. You are such a left wing liberal loser. Judicial Watch will be staying in America and will be constantly exposing the lies as to what that elite ilk that you appear to support are exposed. Go, Trump, go. Go, Judicial Watch, go. You haven’t told the other side of the story. Everyone knows the story apparently except you. Those motorcycles that used to be made in America that were sold in Europe are now no longer going to be made in America which means job losses for Americans. Quote
taxme Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimwd said: Trump would’ve been better off to just continue Obama‘s policies which are responsible for unprecedented job growth . Now that he’s going to mess with the economy watch what happens. It's more like Trump is pissed off with losers like you. Just saying. Quote
Jimwd Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, taxme said: It's more like Trump is pissed off with losers like you. Just saying. Trump paid 25 million for defrauding Americans. He’s a thief and a ConMan Edited June 26, 2018 by Jimwd Quote
paxamericana Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimwd said: Trump would’ve been better off to just continue Obama‘s policies which are responsible for unprecedented job growth . Now that he’s going to mess with the economy watch what happens. I disagree, I think bring up these trade practices out in the open for public debate is the best way to get policy maker moving. They testified that the real reason for steel tarriff is because of china. China has been selling them to Canada and other countries to re brand as non Chinese steel then selling it to the US for cheap. This isn't mentioning the stolen data they have to produce cheap high quality american steel. As pointed out by Obama. Quote
Jimwd Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, paxrom said: I disagree, I think bring up these trade practices out in the open for public debate is the best way to get policy maker moving. They testified that the real reason for steel tarriff is because of china. China has been selling them to Canada and other countries to re brand as non Chinese steel then selling it to the US for cheap. This isn't mentioning the stolen data they have to produce cheap high quality american steel. As pointed out by Obama. No one is disputing whether or not trade issues should be reviewed , Especially those with China. This is about deceit, betrayal, and insulting allies. Quote
taxme Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimwd said: You haven’t told the other side of the story. Everyone knows the story apparently except you. Those motorcycles that used to be made in America that were sold in Europe are now no longer going to be made in America which means job losses for Americans. Harley Davidson is not going to quit America altogether. Such bull chit if you believe that. The Hell's Angels will be quite upset if they did leave America altogether. Maybe anarchist Maxine Waters can get the HA to harass the owners and employees of HD in restaurants and gas stations to not leave. That might do the trick. LOL. But we can all see what tariffs are good for? They are good for nothing. It's just another way of screwing and taxing we the people even more who have to pay for their stupid and wasteful involvement into something the government should never be involved in at all. Government will always be the problem and never the solution. But then again, you love big government, don't you, Omni? So, when are you going to finally admit that you are Omni? You are not fooling me. I knot stuped. Your constant and obvious attacks on me and Trump are a definite giveaway and have been duly noted. LOL. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 You are still lauding Trump, even though he never met a tariff he didn't like ? I don't understand. Are you able to admit Trump is doing something you don't agree with ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
taxme Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 15 minutes ago, Jimwd said: Trump paid 25 million for defrauding Americans. He’s a thief and a ConMan Well, we all should know by now that if there ever was anyone better at defrauding and making great con artists were the Clinton's. There are plenty of stories going around on the internet about those two liars and cheats and thieves and about how they have screwed America and the American people for decades now. During the debates Trump called Hillary a liar and a very crooked woman who made her millions by lying and cheating. If Trump were so bad as you say he was than WHY didn't Hillary point this out in the debate between the two of them? I guess the reason for that was that she is a lair and a crook and could not defend what Trump called her and preferred to just keep her mouth shut. I bet that at least once in your crummy life you played the thief and a con artist? In some way we all have done it. So, what is with your useless point anyway? Quote
Jimwd Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, taxme said: Harley Davidson is not going to quit America altogether. Such bull chit if you believe that. The Hell's Angels will be quite upset if they did leave America altogether. Maybe anarchist Maxine Waters can get the HA to harass the owners and employees of HD in restaurants and gas stations to not leave. That might do the trick. LOL. But we can all see what tariffs are good for? They are good for nothing. It's just another way of screwing and taxing we the people even more who have to pay for their stupid and wasteful involvement into something the government should never be involved in at all. Government will always be the problem and never the solution. But then again, you love big government, don't you, Omni? So, when are you going to finally admit that you are Omni? You are not fooling me. I knot stuped. Your constant and obvious attacks on me and Trump are a definite giveaway and have been duly noted. LOL. Never stated Harley was leaving America. Simply stated the motorcycles that were made in America to sell to Europe are no longer going to be made in America. The people that were building them are out of a job. the Tariffs are retaliation for trump’s tariffs, payback Edited June 26, 2018 by Jimwd Quote
taxme Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: You are still lauding Trump, even though he never met a tariff he didn't like ? I don't understand. Are you able to admit Trump is doing something you don't agree with ? Hello. I already told you as to where I stand on tariffs. What did you not get? Trump is being forced to play the tariff game that were in place long before Trump ever became President. It is time to abolish tariffs altogether and let the free market and businesses roll as it should w/o government interference. So, what do you think about tariffs? Do you think that they work for we the people or are tariffs all bad for we the people? Just asking. Quote
taxme Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jimwd said: Never stated Harley was leaving America. Simply stated the motorcycles that were made in America to sell to Europe are no longer going to be made in America. The people that were building them are out of a job. the Tariffs are retaliation for trump’s tariffs, payback Well, you certainly tried to make it appear as though Harley were planning on leaving America. Indeed, maybe some jobs will be the lost at HD but in the private sector this happens all the time where people lose their jobs because of some companies having to downsize due to economic reasons. But then again maybe HD won't lay off anybody. Hey, you never know. In this case tariffs may be one of the reasons for job losses at HD. It's not Trump's fault. Trump has just been left with this tariff mess and as Trump has been saying tariffs have been responsible for ripping off Americans for decades now because of unfair high tariff practices by other countries. It is Trump retaliating now and it is now payback time for the rest of the world to have to pay up and pay more. Does applying a 270% tariff on dairy products coming into Canada from America make any sense to you that is if you have any sense left. Chuckle. But I thought that the topic here was all about Sarah Huckabee? How did this topic get derailed? Was it you or me? Edited June 26, 2018 by taxme Quote
taxme Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 49 minutes ago, Jimwd said: No one is disputing whether or not trade issues should be reviewed , Especially those with China. This is about deceit, betrayal, and insulting allies. Ya, and it's all Trump's fault again, eh? Get real. Quote
Jimwd Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, taxme said: Hello. I already told you as to where I stand on tariffs. What did you not get? Trump is being forced to play the tariff game that were in place long before Trump ever became President. It is time to abolish tariffs altogether and let the free market and businesses roll as it should w/o government interference. So, what do you think about tariffs? Do you think that they work for we the people or are tariffs all bad for we the people? Just asking. Trump started the tariff game and Europe is responding. get it yet? Quote
turningrite Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Jimwd said: Trump started the tariff game and Europe is responding. get it yet? Trump's engaging in a phony tariff war with the EU and Canada, although it's not clear to me that he fully understands the situation. Jobs will be lost in the U.S. as firms move to serve EU markets, in particular, with EU-produced products. Canada may not have this kind of market leverage but it appears most Americans don't see Canada as part of the bigger trade problem in any case. Sure, Canada shelters some sectors, including through supply management, but the U.S. also provides enormous subsidies to some sectors in its economy, including agriculture and aerospace. There are no virgins in the trade game, even where friends are considered. The elephant in the room, of course, is China, but I think Trump is approaching that country in an unproductive fashion. The more important issue is the WTO system, which grants China developing economy status and privileges. Trump should be working with other Western countries to reach an agreement with China. Instead, he's huffing and puffing and p***ing everybody off. He likes the image of being the playground bully, but this comes with consequences. Leaders in China and Russia are probably laughing about the impact of his antics on America's traditional alliances. Edited June 26, 2018 by turningrite 1 Quote
taxme Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jimwd said: Trump started the tariff game and Europe is responding. get it yet? On the contrary, ti was past Presidents who started it all, not Trump, silly little boy. Trump has been left with the mess that this tariff game has left him. Sure Canada and Europe will respond because it is now payback time from Trump. Trump knows that America has been getting screwed left and right for decades now with trade deals that were not so great for America and Trump just wants to put an end to that. Gte it now? I can't blame Trump. Trump is thinking about America, not Canada or Europe. Trump just says he wants fair trade deals and not rip off trade deals. For that I cannot blame him. But you want to blame Trump for all the world's problems because it is plain and simple that you hate Trump and will try and blame everything on what Trump says or does. You left wing liberal losers are such a bunch of crybabies. When you see a real leader in action you get all upset and want to whine and cry like the crybabies that you are. Why? Did Trump kick your well deserved left wing liberal butt or something. LOL. Trump is kicking the liberal/democrat establishments ass and he is enjoying every minute of it and so am I. So sad for you. Quote
taxme Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, turningrite said: Trump's engaging in a phony tariff war with the EU and Canada, although it's not clear to me that he fully understands the situation. Jobs will be lost in the U.S. as firms move to serve EU markets, in particular, with EU-produced products. Canada may not have this kind of market leverage but it appears most Americans don't see Canada as part of the bigger trade problem in any case. Sure, Canada shelters some sectors, including through supply management, but the U.S. also provides enormous subsidies to some sectors in its economy, including agriculture and aerospace. There are no virgins in the trade game, even where friends are considered. The elephant in the room, of course, is China, but I think Trump is approaching that country in an unproductive fashion. The more important issue is the WTO system, which grants China developing economy status and privileges. Trump should be working with other Western countries to reach an agreement with China. Instead, he's huffing and puffing and p***ing everybody off. He likes the image of being the playground bully, but this comes with consequences. Trump is pissing off the establishment and that will be their problem now, and not Trump's. Trump says let's play the trade and tariff game fair because Trump believes that the rest of the world has not been playing fair ball with America. Why can't anybody get that thru their thick skulls here? Is Trudeau and Freeland not doing the same thing also and trying to look out for Canada? Maybe what is needed is to dump all tariffs altogether and let's start all over again with the public being included in the talks. After all we the people are the ones that have to pay for all this bull chit that is going on with trade and tariffs. My opinion. Quote
Jimwd Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, taxme said: Trump is pissing off the establishment and that will be their problem now, and not Trump's. Trump says let's play the trade and tariff game fair because Trump believes that the rest of the world has not been playing fair ball with America. Why can't anybody get that thru their thick skulls here? Is Trudeau and Freeland not doing the same thing also and trying to look out for Canada? Maybe what is needed is to dump all tariffs altogether and let's start all over again with the public being included in the talks. After all we the people are the ones that have to pay for all this bull chit that is going on with trade and tariffs. My opinion. Trump doesn’t understand trade which is why he’s failing and alienating allies. Quote
turningrite Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, taxme said: Why can't anybody get that thru their thick skulls here? If you want your argument to be taken seriously, maybe you should consider using more temperate language. Views on the trade debate, as well as on Trump's temperament and approach, vary widely. 1 Quote
BubberMiley Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, taxme said: Well, you certainly tried to make it appear as though Harley were planning on leaving America. So did Trump in his tweets this morning. You should respond to them and explain to him how everything will be okay. 1 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 26 minutes ago, turningrite said: ..... Leaders in China and Russia are probably laughing about the impact of his antics on America's traditional alliances. But America's "traditional alliances" have also come at great cost and some negative consequences. Trump wants to be the change agent, destroyer of the status quo. I remember the "Nixon Shock" of 1971, taking away convertibility of U.S. dollars to gold and undermining Bretton Woods (West Germany had already been playing games with their Deutsche Mark). The policy change "shocked" international order, and today's floating currency exchange rates were the result, a mostly positive thing. President Trump is not the first POTUS to do such things, and he will not be the last. Trump is just another U.S. president. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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