Iran needs some democracy

[marcus]

6 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Well I can't comment about Sri Lanka as I know nothing. I had to google search to find out where it is lol!!!!!. The majority rule is a majority rule. Anyone disobeying it is a rebel (or if that someone resort to violent action that person is a terrorist).

The Nazis came to power through a democratic process. Were their actions justified against the minority?

[CITIZEN_2015]

18 hours ago, marcus said:

The Nazis came to power through a democratic process. Were their actions justified against the minority?

No but thet started murdering people for no reason. If the minorities had taken arms against the majority and randomly killing the majority then yes it was legitimate that they would be arrested and put on trial and punish according to the law of the land not randomly picked upon for being a minority and put to death. 

Edited April 22, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015

[CITIZEN_2015]

Mummified ramains of the father of Modern Iran may have been found.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/24/mummified-body-shah-iran-may-have-found-tehran-construction/

This may cause further issues for the regime as Reza Shah the Great is highly respected by many Iranians especially the youth as per recent anti-regime demonstrations when the masses were chanting his name and blessing his soul for what he did standing up to reactionary religious bodies in power today. The crowds in various towns and cities were also calling for the return of his grandson, Prince Reza Pahlavi as the new King of Persia.

A well known mass murderer Ayatolah led a mob to demolish his mausoleum soon after the rebellion coup in 1979 succeeded.

He is one of the few past Kings given the title "Great" by the nation and in his short 16 years of rule he changed Iran from a backward totally destroyed (under Ghajar dynasty) weak country to a modern, advanced, forward nation and the one who gave liberty and equality to women and fought against the evil clergy who represented backward anti-Persian but Arab culture and whose mission of the latter was to destroy Iran (Persia) as they proved later. If he is allowed to be burried in a known location then very likely his mausoleum will be by far more popular and respected than many of those religious figures burried in Iran as the former would be likely visited by many millions every year. Hence why some regime insiders deny the mummy is that of Reza Shah the great as one wrote earlier that Reza Shah was so powerful that they are even scared of his dead body.

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-iran-reza-shah-20180425-story.html

 

Edited April 26, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015

[CITIZEN_2015]

IDF sent its love to Iranians!!!!!!

While Netanyahu is making big lies about Iran's nuclear activities since 2015 and encourages the US to leave the JCPA agreement (which btw the US never lived up to its side of agreement) and even pushing the US to take military action against weaker defenseless innocent Iran nation for all the wrong reasons (wrong reasons because nuclear activities is the RIGHT of Iran as a sovereign nation. The US itself has an arsenal of nuclear weapons but Iran does not have the right to have even one. Hypocricy at its best. The reason though should be Iran regime human rights violations) , Israeli cadets (IDF) are singing a popular Persian Love song well known and sang by people of Iran for many years and it went viral by Iranians. The people of Iran and Israel are much closer than you think. Ever since the liberation of Jews by Persian liberation army centuries ago from Egyption slavery and latest being the close relationship between Iran and Israel before the deceiving coup in 1979. It is the governments who are stupid and hateful but the majority of people have no issues and feel the historic links and wish to be close and friends.. Yeah the video went viral in Iran and in the past many Iranians also have expressed support for Israelis.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/video-of-idf-soldiers-singing-persian-love-song-goes-viral-in-iran/

Btw, so much for the intelligence part!!! Their faces are all known now!!!!!!

 

Edited May 4, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015

[CITIZEN_2015]

Civil strikes started..................

Civil strikes is the most effective and most bloodless way of toppling the regime and this is also advocated by the Crown Prince (Reza Pahlavi) who is a democrat and against violence and fears for the lives of his nation and it appears that it has started.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/labor-strikes-and-worker-protests-erupt-across-iran-this-is-slavery-1525626832

Street demonstrations would be a very bloody alternative as started last December/January as the regime will not hesitate to machine gun the peaceful crowd for its survival. The civil strikes is the most peaceful and bloodless as they cannot shoot people for not going to work. However, for it to work it has to spread to all other workers too all over the country. On another note with the very likely re-imposition of sanctions by the US on May 12 the economic situation will only get worse and labor conditions will worsen and the poor (the majority) more squeezed and poorer and national currency already worthless and inflation skyrocketted. Considering that the recent anti-regime mass demonstrations came from the poor who used to be regime supporters, this is not good news for the regime.............

Edited May 6, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015

[GostHacked]

So the nuclear deal is off and the drums for war against Iran have started.   I knew it would be a matter of when, not if, that the invasion of Iran would take place.

[CITIZEN_2015]

3 hours ago, GostHacked said:

So the nuclear deal is off and the drums for war against Iran have started.   I knew it would be a matter of when, not if, that the invasion of Iran would take place.

What is resumption of sanctions got to do with invasion of Iran????!!!!!!! Absolutely nothing. However, resumption of sanctions will have adverse economic impact on Iran and unfortunately not only on Iran regime.

Trump pulled the US out of JCPA.

While Iran economy is in a tailspin and national currency has become worthless and going down further and isolated street demonstrations against the regime continues in towns and cities and brave lion hearted Iranian women taking off their forced hijabs in opposition to regime and worker strikes spreading and inflation and unemployment rising even higher and bankrupcies increasing and regime-made drought spreading all over the country and Iran revolutionary guards under attack in Syria, to add insult to injury President Trump pulls United States out of JCPA and imposed very strict sanctions against Iran regime while praising the people of Iran taken as prisoners in their own homeland and praising the country itself as an ancient civilization, he clearly differentiated between the two entities, Iran and its regime (should be a lesson to many posters here). He may be able to achieve his goals without firing a single bullet? That remains to be seen.

Edited May 9, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015

[GostHacked]

Citizen_2015, the reason they pulled out is because with them being part of it, they are restricted in what they can do to Iran when violations happen. Now the USA can just simply do whatever they want to Iran. The USA has been itchin to get into Iran for the past 20 + years.  Within 5 years, they will.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Not sure I understand what you are saying but Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan.  It is three times the area and more yjan twice the population and the size of the army and covered by mountains and militarily hard to conquer. Though logic always says that a rogue state must be stopped before it becomes a superpower (i.e. Nazi Germany) at any cost but the reality is that USA is a democracy (unlike Iran) and one man cannot decide on war and peace and the president needs congressional approval for a war and American public is not ready for another bloody war. America wants a regime change in Iran and they may achieve it by harsh sanctions if Europe is forced to take part too but America does not want or can not afford another war anytime soon.

Edited May 9, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015

[GostHacked]

14 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Not sure I understand what you are saying but Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan.  It is three times the area and more yjan twice the population and the size of the army and covered by mountains and militarily hard to conquer. Though logic always says that a rogue state must be stopped before it becomes a superpower (i.e. Nazi Germany) at any cost but the reality is that USA is a democracy (unlike Iran) and one man cannot decide on war and peace and the president needs congressional approval for a war and American public is not ready for another bloody war. America wants a regime change in Iran and they may achieve it by harsh sanctions if Europe is forced to take part too but America does not want or can not afford another war anytime soon.

Well it may be done like Iraq. One war, then a load of sanctions, which will drive their economy and population down, crippling them which will allow the US to go in a second time some years later. Maybe Israel will get involved again with a few custom made viruses to target specific facilities.

The US can afford the war (but you are right, they cannot afford it on their own) because the Saudi's (According to John Kerry's testimony at one hearing) is that if the US goes alone, the Saudi's will foot the bill for the war.

[GostHacked]

Israel has thrown it's hat into the ring and started attacking Iranian facilities in Syria.  Let's not forget this when Iran attacks Israel and then Israel complains about it.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/middleeast/israel-rockets-syria/index.html

[CITIZEN_2015]

6 hours ago, GostHacked said:

Israel has thrown it's hat into the ring and started attacking Iranian facilities in Syria.  Let's not forget this when Iran attacks Israel and then Israel complains about it.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/middleeast/israel-rockets-syria/index.html

What are Iranian facilities doing in Syria? Why Iran regime is spending billions of dollars of people's money to protect a mass muderer when its own economy is in tailspin and many thousands of workers have not been paid and millions don't have water and air so badly populated and many millions live below poverty and out of work while prices for everthing especially  essentials like food is skyrocketting? Btw, they are not Iranian facilities they are revolutionary guards facilites. Same bunch who were shooting at peaceful demonstrators in many Iranian towns and cities a few months ago. Lets not forget this when Israel attacks.

Edited May 10, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015

[GostHacked]

29 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

What are Iranian facilities doing in Syria? Why Iran regime is spending billions of dollars of people's money to protect a mass muderer when its own economy is in tailspin and many thousands of workers have not been paid and millions don't have water and air so badly populated and many millions live below poverty and out of work while prices for everthing especially  essentials like food is skyrocketting? Btw, they are not Iranian facilities they are revolutionary guards facilites. Same bunch who were shooting at peaceful demonstrators in many Iranian towns and cities a few months ago. Lets not forget this when Israel attacks.

Iran is in Syria just as Russia is.. they are allies.  I would not expect anything less.  But Syria's civil war was started by external forces, so no matter how much people hate Assad,  7 years later he is still in charge, but now the country is obliterated by forces on all sides.  Was it worth it?

And Israel has been itchin to get into Iran as well. Potential false flag coming up.

Edited May 10, 2018 by GostHacked

[eyeball]

22 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Potential false flag coming up.

It'll be hard to see thru all the fog.

[GostHacked]

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It'll be hard to see thru all the fog.

And there will be a lot of that. Confusing contradicting statements, allegations without any proof. Lots of political rhetoric. Attempts at scaring our populations into supporting the war.  IT's been the same play from the same playbook in every M.E nation invaded since 2002.

[CITIZEN_2015]

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

Iran is in Syria just as Russia is.. they are allies.  I would not expect anything less.  But Syria's civil war was started by external forces, so no matter how much people hate Assad,  7 years later he is still in charge, but now the country is obliterated by forces on all sides.  Was it worth it?

And Israel has been itchin to get into Iran as well. Potential false flag coming up.

Very false analysis and comments.

So two wrongs doing it right? Damn russians have been colonizing half the world last century including eastern Europe and former Soviet states. So Syria is another example.  Syria"s civil war started because the people of syria were fed up with Assad's regime inherited from his father and wanted him OUT. Not external forces. And yes he is stilll in charge because billions of dollars stolen from poor Iranian people by its regime was used to prop up his muderous regime. And Syria was obliterated just because of that a muderer did not wish to give up power. And anyone supporting the Syrian side is equally guilty and has a share in spilled blood of Syrian people and poverty and spilled blood of Iranian people on his or her hands and conscious.

Edited May 10, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015

[eyeball]

 

 

1 minute ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Very false analysis and comments.

So two wrongs doing it right? Damn russians have been colonizing half the world last century including eastern Europe and former Soviet states.

There it is... Godwin's law really needs to be amended.

Now queue the Mufti in 3...2...1... 

[CITIZEN_2015]

8 hours ago, GostHacked said:

Well it may be done like Iraq. One war, then a load of sanctions, which will drive their economy and population down, crippling them ........

he US to go in a second time some years later. Maybe Israel will get involved again with a few custom made viruses to target specific facilities.

The US can afford the war (but you are right, they cannot afford it on their own) because the Saudi's (According to John Kerry's testimony at one hearing) is that if the US goes alone, the Saudi's will foot the bill for the war.

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

And there will be a lot of that. Confusing contradicting statements, allegations without any proof. Lots of political rhetoric. Attempts at scaring our populations into supporting the war.  IT's been the same play from the same playbook in every M.E nation invaded since 2002.

Were you looking in a mirror when you posted above? because It is YOU who is saying there will be a US war with Iran. I am saying it is unlikely giving geopolitical and public opinions reasons. Read your own posts!!!!!!!!!!

 

Edited May 10, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015

[GostHacked]

29 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Very false analysis and comments.

So two wrongs doing it right? Damn russians have been colonizing half the world last century including eastern Europe and former Soviet states. So Syria is another example.  Syria"s civil war started because the people of syria were fed up with Assad's regime inherited from his father and wanted him OUT. Not external forces. And yes he is stilll in charge because billions of dollars stolen from poor Iranian people by its regime was used to prop up his muderous regime. And Syria was obliterated just because of that a muderer did not wish to give up power. And anyone supporting the Syrian side is equally guilty and has a share in spilled blood of Syrian people and poverty and spilled blood of Iranian people on his or her hands and conscious.

How is it false?  And Russia may just be taking back the break off states. However Russia is surrounded by US/allied bases and Russia simply does not have the projection like the US and it's allies.

Syria's 'civil war' was never started internally. That I have documented here time and time again via several threads. There is just no contest about that. Anyone who believes it was a genuine civil war needs their head checked.  Let's not forget the Free Syrian Army that was given a base of operations in Turkey and trained and supplied by the USA.

Interesting that a response to a chemical attack in Syria demands hundreds of cruise missiles being launched into Syria from allied forces.  And yet there was no wait time to confirm that the chemical attack was by Syrian forces.  EVERY time so far the results confirming Syria using chemical attacks have been inconclusive. So if you want to talk about obliteration, those Tomahawk missiles will do way more damage than anything Assad can push out.

I am not saying Syria is innocent and even Putin notes that Assad is no freakin saint. However they are allies, and they will protect each other. That's how these things work.

So based on the track record of the US and allies in the M.E  (Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and others) and the rhetoric and lies that got us into each conflict lends more proof to my stance.

So this is getting to a pre-WWIII scenario.  Only going to take one more thing and then that shit is really gonna fly through that fan.

[CITIZEN_2015]

I won't response to all those allegations on Syria because this thread is about Iran. And I said what I said that Iranian people's money is stolen from them in many billions while they are facing poverty and hardship (while living in a very rich country in terms of both natural and human resources) to protect a mass muderer and other terrorist groups without any benefit to their national interests, only to satisfy regime ideology and fill up their own pockets and foreign bank accounts.

Edited May 10, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015

[eyeball]

18 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I won't response to all those allegations on Syria because this thread is about Iran. 

Yes and as we know Iran HAD democracy but then something happened.  Do you recall?

As for Syria...same shit...same fan...same Russians...same ignorant fears....

Same fog.

 

Edited May 10, 2018 by eyeball

[GostHacked]

15 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I won't response to all those allegations on Syria because this thread is about Iran. And I said what I said that Iranian people's money is stolen from them in many billions while they are facing poverty and hardship (while living in a very rich country in terms of both natural and human resources) to protect a mass muderer and other terrorist groups without any benefit to their national interests, only to satisfy regime ideology and fill up their own pockets and foreign bank accounts.

It's the same playbook as Syria and other recently invaded nations.  It will play out very similar.

[CITIZEN_2015]

22 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

It's the same playbook as Syria and other recently invaded nations.  It will play out very similar.

Iran is not the same as Syria or Iraq. It is iran regime and its supporters who are trying to scare the people of Iran by putting the fear of Iraq and Syria and ISIS in their hearts to prevent them from revolving and so that they keep stealing their money and lives. Iran is a non-Arab and very united country whose minorities share the same history, culture and traditions for over 25 centuries. The people of Azari defended Iran with their blood when the Turks invaded. The poeple of Kurdistan (the kurdish minority) and Khuzestan (including Arab minorities) defended against Iraqi invasion. Iran is much more educated then both Syria and Iraq. Politics runnung high among Iranians for centuries while both Iraq and Syria were colonized last century Iranians kept their independence and were NEVER colonized. Iran will not become another Syria or Iraq because Iran is much more advanced than both Iraq and Syria and an ancient civilization.

Edited May 10, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015

[bush_cheney2004]

Nothing special about Iran...Canada has bombed Iraq and Syria...Canada can also bomb Iran.

[CITIZEN_2015]

18 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Nothing special about Iran...Canada has bombed Iraq and Syria...Canada can also bomb Iran.

Ahh read the posts first before making idiotic comments.

The debate is whether Iran will become like Syria or disintegrate if the people wish to change the regime and revolve or like Iraq in the unlikely scenario that it is militarily invaded. No one said it can not be bombed like it has covered its skies with a protective ironic ceiling or something!!!!!. 

Edited May 10, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015