eyeball Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 29 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Arguing with folks who think WW2 started when Poland invaded Germany. Actually it started after that good olde fashioned fear of the left compelled conservatives to side with a monster. A lot of that still going on to this day. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, bcsapper said: People can do whatever they want, including adhere to whatever religion they want, as long as they do not expect any kind of change in behaviour by anyone else. I have no problem with someone hating homosexuals, for instance, as long as no-one else is affected by it. How would you feel if you were a homosexual and almost everyone in your neighborhood and on your street hated homosexuals, and the government said "You know what we need in this country, more people who hate homosexuals!" and brought in more as immigrants who hate homosexuals? Edited January 5, 2018 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: Barely proud then, have it your way. Now she sends you an "atta - boy" when she reads your posts? My enemies want to know sooooo much about me. Yet I care so little for them. Go figure. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Actually it started after that good olde fashioned fear of the left compelled conservatives to side with a monster. A lot of that still going on to this day. National Socialism was Left Wing. Just not as Left Wing as the Commies. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: National Socialism was Left Wing. Just not as Left Wing as the Commies. And you would have sided with Hitler, no surprise there. Why you give your uncle such a bad rap is a bit of a mystery. Edited January 5, 2018 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Guest Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Argus said: How would you feel if you were a homosexual and almost everyone in your neighborhood and on your street hated homosexuals, and the government said "You know what we need in this country, more people who hate homosexuals!" and brought in more as immigrants? I don't care what people hate, so long as they don't act on it. I think people ought to be able to hate whatever they want. If any of the immigrants were to act on their hatred, I'd be happy with their deportation. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: And you would have sided with Hitler, no surprise there. Why you give your uncle such a bad rap is a bit of a mystery. You're projecting again. Just because you admire Hitler doesn't mean others feel the same way as you do about your hero. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I don't care what people hate, so long as they don't act on it. I think people ought to be able to hate whatever they want. If any of the immigrants were to act on their hatred, I'd be happy with their deportation. So you'll be content to have them deported after they beat you to a pulp, and show no concern as the government brings in tens of thousands more? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I don't care what people hate, so long as they don't act on it. I think people ought to be able to hate whatever they want. If any of the immigrants were to act on their hatred, I'd be happy with their deportation. Aren't they? Has Islam suddenly become gay friendly? Are Islamic attitudes towards Jews gonna change now that Islam plans to dominate Canada? 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
9-18-1 Posted January 5, 2018 Author Report Posted January 5, 2018 We need to make an important distinction here. Criticizing an institution (be it religious or socio-political) has nothing to do with the adherents of that institution. It is actually the bigots who conflate the two. Criticizing Islam does not necessarily indicate that one is likewise criticizing Muslims as people. It is only individuals who can't tell the difference that insist they are being "insulted". Trying to equate criticizing a socio-political institution with "racism" is bigotry - no matter what mental gymnastics one attempts to employ. Now of course Muslims or Muslim apologists (neo-liberals or "pluralists") may take offense to the criticism, but that is only because they identify themselves with that institution (or apologize for those that do) and feel it is "politically incorrect", or to a more bigoted extent, "racist". This is their own complex; not the one criticizing the institution. You see this in the left all over the place nowadays, and indeed on this very thread. Islam is not a race, and there is a distinction between a religious and/or socio-political institution as an ideological construct in and of itself, and adherents of them. Quote
Guest Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Argus said: So you'll be content to have them deported after they beat you to a pulp, and show no concern as the government brings in tens of thousands more? 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Aren't they? Has Islam suddenly become gay friendly? Are Islamic attitudes towards Jews gonna change now that Islam plans to dominate Canada? Are we suggesting punishment for thought crime, here? Or did I not make myself clear? People can hate whatever, whoever they want. I don't care. In fact, I support their right to do so, even unto being against hate crime legislation. Quote
?Impact Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: The common attack of the Leftist idiot is to yell 'racist' and hope it sticks. Is that like calling everyone you disagree with a 'leftist', or an 'idiot', etc. 1 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: Are we suggesting punishment for thought crime, here? Or did I not make myself clear? People can hate whatever, whoever they want. I don't care. In fact, I support their right to do so, even unto being against hate crime legislation. Such thinking is luxury. Enjoy it while you can. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, ?Impact said: Is that like calling everyone you disagree with a 'leftist', or an 'idiot', etc. I paint what I see. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Such thinking is luxury. Enjoy it while you can. It's a luxury we all enjoy. Quote
?Impact Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, 9-18-1 said: It's a pro-Sharia shill, just like ?Impact and eyeball. I am still waiting for you to back up your lying allegation. Still can't? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: It's a luxury we all enjoy. Really? I find that speaking one's mind is getting more difficult. Not less. -------------------------------------------- That being said...this place gets busy when I appear. A good thing. Plus I'm back on top...where I belong. Such dull grey lives... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
?Impact Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, Argus said: How would you feel if you were a homosexual and almost everyone in your neighborhood and on your street hated homosexuals, and the government said "You know what we need in this country, more people who hate homosexuals!" and brought in more as immigrants who hate homosexuals? Are you coming out of the closet? 21 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: National Socialism was Left Wing. Just not as Left Wing as the Commies. National Socialism is as far right wing as it gets. Using a label to change the meaning is also extreme right wing, we saw it then and we it see it continually today. Quote
Guest Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Really? I find that speaking one's mind is getting more difficult. Not less. -------------------------------------------- That being said...this place gets busy when I appear. A good thing. Plus I'm back on top...where I belong. Such dull grey lives... I don't disagree, but I would be against such restrictions, which accounts for my opinion there. It certainly did, there's no denying that. Quote
?Impact Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Plus I'm back on top...where I belong. You know what they say about monkeys up high Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, ?Impact said: Are you coming out of the closet? National Socialism is as far right wing as it gets. Using a label to change the meaning is also extreme right wing, we saw it then and we it see it continually today. National...of the Nation Socialism...group think. Not right wing as per the French Revolution...which is where we get the terms. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, ?Impact said: You know what they say about monkeys up high Yeah...they can really nail you good and you're left with a big clean-up...while they laugh and laugh and laugh. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
?Impact Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, DogOnPorch said: National...of the Nation Socialism...group think. Not right wing as per the French Revolution...which is where we get the terms. "Using a label to change the meaning is also extreme right wing, we saw it then and we it see it continually today. " I rest my case. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I don't disagree, but I would be against such restrictions, which accounts for my opinion there. It certainly did, there's no denying that. Watch they can't help themselves...they must reply. Deranged. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, ?Impact said: "Using a label to change the meaning is also extreme right wing, we saw it then and we it see it continually today. " I rest my case. You're free to pretend Socialism = Right Wing Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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