Netanyahu: Outraged by Expressions of Racism

[Rue]

7 hours ago, Altai said:

LoL I am dying of laughter after I read a comment below a youtube recipe video. Someones who comment says "why do you seem such agressive, you do not seem like cooking a meal but you look like cooking a Jew" 

 Ahahahahahahaha  Godddd I cant stop laughing.

Well now its a good thing we have Altai on this thread contributing salient insight as to the issues.

[Rue]

8 hours ago, kactus said:

How about jpg, DOP, Bush and Bonam. I think of a few more personalities to give you a chance Hamesh...

Sorry your English got a bit garbled on that one. Feel free to respond in Arabic or Farsi.

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[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

Sorry your English got a bit garbled on that one. Feel free to respond in Arabic or Farsi.

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It used to be rather odious to support the Palestinian Cause due to its connection to Hitler and the Holocaust. And of course...International Terrorism.

As we see with kactus, this isn't an issue.

Edited September 18, 2017 by DogOnPorch

[Rue]

8 hours ago, kactus said:

1-For a second don't get paranoia...It took you bloody long time to realise other members are not me. What a pathetic suggestion. Are you jpg, Bonam, DOP or Bush_Cheyney? 

 

2-Drivel nonsense. I do accept the rights of Israel to exist in its own territory for the hundredth time. I do not accept the ideology that you support which is taking more lands from palestinians illegally. Which bit of this is not clear to you? 

 

4-Read the title of the OP agains it's a racism in Israel towards North African immigrants. The very fact that you do not want to accept this shows you are a supporter of racism. I know you love that megalomaniac Bibi. Doesn't mean that whoever calls him a racist is anti semite as you suggested....

 

5-Again you are deflecting....Read the title of the OP

 

6-You have a very convoluted way of expressing yourself or changing words others say to suit you. I said there is nothing special about anti semitism....Jews are not special or chosen people. There is no difference between them and others. Some of them think they are superior to other races and goyims. I said if someone insults a Canadian then we should call them anti canadian just to prove the point that it doesn't have any significance when the likes of you come on this forum screaming anti semitism... Capiche? Move on....

 

7-I said it once and say it again there is nothing special about your people the jews. If you show hatred towards palestinians or others then you better be damn ready to accept criticism. Stop crying like a baby.

 

8-You are an israeli cheerleader. Same way you accuse everyone on this forum that does not support your views as terrorist...You reap what you saw.

 

9-Zionism is racism. It's like a double edged sword that is doing disservice to jews in Israel and elsewhere. A very sick ideology to promote racism. And yes Bib's policies are racist and bigoted...

 

10-wtf has that got to do with anything. That is blinding obvious. We are talking about land grabbing and stealing more from occupied territory.

 

11-BS again...I said all arabs do not look the same and are not like a bunch of herds as Argus suggested. Buy I guess in your racist mind it doesn't matter who arabs are there are more of them. All you care is for the jews...

 

 

14-This has been discussed to death and answer already given. Obviously not an answer the racist mindset can accept. Frankly it's just ridiculous for me even to respond to this or try to justify.

 

15-It is not an accusation rue. You have demonstrated that here time and time again that you are a cheerleader for Bibi...

 

16-You don't. You remain mute to the injustices committed against palestinians and only come on this forum if someone criticises Israeli policies. How can that be a fair view on the conflict.

 

17-I don't need a tag team and I don't need you to lecture me what or how I should say things when it concerns Israel. 

 

18-Provide me just one single post where I have defended Sharia law. You are a compulsive liar!

 

19-You have a problem with Altai calling you a Kaffir go and raise it with her. Not my problem.

 

20-Subjective to your opinion.

 

21-What has this got to do with the sick policies of stealing lands from palestinians. It is their land too ya know. No you probably think they are fictitious people.

 

23-I am against the expansionist policies of Israel as I am against Sharia law. Both are sick. You can spew and twist words however you like. It won't change my stance...

 

25-Horses for courses. I don't approve of anything so barbaric as the saudis and the way they are killing other muslims as I do not approve of stealing lands and say hey it's ok the whole middle east is a mess why can we not carry on grabbing more lands from palestinians.

 

26-How do you know? I have even opened threads here on this very forum condemning the actions of terrorist muslims against the western countries. Do you realise how ridiculous your statement is????

 

27-On both sides...But the reality is the conflict is over land....

 

28-The fact is that doesn't still give Israel the right to take homes from palestinians. Why is that so hard for you to understand!?

 

29-Again you are making unsubstantiated accusations against me without back up....Don't lie rue. It's not nice...

 

30--Not at all. It's just that unlike you or Argus I don't have the habit of lumping all arabs or muslims as a bunch of herds that all look like each other....

32-If you cannot get it into your thick head that there are genetic differences in an Azeri and an arab or pakistani it shows your lack of understanding on the subject matter. But I am not here to give you a lecture about something so obvious that you don't want to hear....

 

33-Go and play with your toys old man. You're sad...

 

34-Carry on making more ridiculous arguments like this and that shovel will end up somewhere else...

I numbered your comments to expedite responding to them.

 

In regards to 1- go back and read my response. I gave an extensive list of the Jewish superheroes I am aligned with.

In regards to 2-since you have stated  and I quote;  "I accept the right of Israel to exist in its own territory." 100 times, I guess this is my 101st reply stating you are a dishonest coward for making that statement. You will not come on this forum and state you accept Israel 's right to exist AS A JEWISH state in its own territory. You play semantics deliberately refusing to say you recognize the right of Israel to be Jewish. You engage in the semantic game Mr. Abbas now states where in one breath he says he will recognize Israel and then next breath states but only on the condition it first becomes majority Muslim.  Everytime you repeat it and omit reference to trecognizing Israel as a Jewish state you show you are full of shit playing semantics.

In regards to 4- in fact I did directly respond to the OP thread which in fact did not state what you said. The actual OP accused Netanyahu of being a racist. Then it was deflected not by me but anti Israel pissantes to then claim all Israelis are racist against Palestinians. Then they turned it into a general attack on Israel's existence as a Jewish state. I was not the one to deflect the thread. Your decision to single me out as deflecting from the thread and ignore all your anti Israel pissantes including you most of all deflecting from this thread using it as a pretext to call all Zionists racist, etc., speaks for itself and this is why you have no credibility. You not only forget what the op is, but you deny your role and the role of your Israeli puissant colleagues in engaging in the Israel pissing contest. I simply respond to the pissing and send your piss back where it originated from. You piss on Israel I will send it back in your face.

In regards to 5, no I do not deflect, I respond to a deflection.

In regards to 6,  you recycle the Jewish canard that the concept of Jews being called the chosen people means we think we are superior to others. You then try couch it by using the word "some" before you say Jews. You do so because at the pith and substance of your argument is that Zionism is racism because Zionist Jews believe they are superior to Arabs. Zionism has nothing to do with race or religion. It has to do with the concept od defining Jews as a political collective equal not superior to any Muslim or Christian states. So you can make all the veiled reference to "some Jews" think they are superior and then use that as a pretense to piss on Israel but the fact is you don't engage in the same criticism of Muslim countries or terrorist cells who have superiority beliefs, and you do not come on this forum and say Islam by defining non believers as Kafir is a necessarily bigoted religion and it is this belief that non Muslims are kafir that cause is what is behind them refusing to consider Israel a Jewish state, because then Jews could own land, and have a legal state equal to Muslim states which is a direct challenge to the concept of Jews not being able to be equal and have a state or own land.

In regards to 7, I will state it again-you slur me and Jews as thinking we are superior, you then being the anti semite you are select us out and accuse us all  of hating Palestinians. This time you didn't couch your reference with "some" Jews or even "some" Israels you used the reference THE JEWS. That shows you attack all Jews. You single all Jews out and smeer us as hating Palestinians. You don't criticize Christians or people of any other religion of hating Palestinians just Jews, or as you stated THE Jews. That makes you a snively anti semitic bigot. You don't select out the Muslims of all the Middle East nations that discriminate against Palestinians, only THE Jews.

In regards to 8, if I am an Israeli cheerleader because I defend Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state you bet. If I am an Israelio cheerleader because I challenge you using the pretext of discussing Israel to smeer THE Jews in one breath of all having the same belief, you bet. As doe your allegation I call people who disagree with me terrorists, uh no not at all. In fact JPG and I had a protacted dispute on this forum about him generalizing in a negative way about all Muslims. I never accused him fo being a terrorist. I've had the same argument with DOP, never called him a terrorist. I've called out Taxme as a neo Nazi, never called him a terrorist. I've called many people out on this forum, can't recall acusing anyone of being a terrorist. It wouldn't surprise me at all tough if Hudson Jones, Ghost, Eye, you,. Marcus, Altai, are sym;pathetic with and support Palestinian terrorists.

In regards to 9, Zionism is not racism but you are an anti semitic bigot for chanting this statement. Zionism does not define Jews as a race and never has. It defines Jews as a political collective. You call it racist before you believe it defines Jews as a race. The concept that Jews are a race is a Nazi anti semitic canard brought to the Palestinian nationalist movementby the Mullah of Jerusalem an avowed Nazi. The fact you repeat his script says a lot. Nothing in Zionism defines a Jew or anyone else by race or for that matter by religion. You are an anti-Semite. You define Jews as a race. We are not a race. We are semites no different from Arabs. You define us as race, because the anti Zionist crap you repeat is based on defining Jews as thinking we are a superior race. Its called Nazi inversion. You accuse us of the very thing Nazis did to justify the holocaust knowing it insults Jews and calls us the same thing as Nazis when it is the Palestinian national movement that allied with the Nazis and ex Nazis who moved to Egypt, Syria and Iraq and ran their governments and failed to wipe out Jews a second time in the Middle Easy. You engage in this bull shit false canard precisely because you deflect from the actual thread and when you saw the word racism, jumped on it to repeat the same pathetic Zionism is racism canard.

In regards to 10

In regards to 11, 21, 23, 27, 28  you again deflect the topic of the thread  and and try engage me and all Jews n reference to stealing homes from Palestinians. In your selective analysis you ignore the actual fact that Muslims moving to the West Bank in fact took more land away from any Palestinians than any Israelis have to this day and this is precisely why Arafat blew up the land titles office-to hide this fact. To this day Muslims descended from Arabs who came to Palestine no differently than Jews and who illegally took the land from the existing Palestinian Muslims are ignored by you. You pretend they too are Palestinian. You apply a standard that when a non Muslims stole or physically took land from Muslim Palestinians this now qualifies them as being Palestinians but any Jew who was thrown out of Arab league nations and forced to flee to Israel and the Jews who always lived in Palestine and the Jews who fled the holocaust who came to Palestine-only they are thieves. This is why you are full of shit and have no credibility. You have no idea who Palestinians are. You buy into a script given to you by Arabs who in fact came to Palestine no different than Jews, the difference being Jews bought the land-Palestinians engaged in selling  same parcel of land to dozens of Palestinians at the same time. I have stated settlements on the West Bank if there is to be a genuine peace have to be dismantled and Jews agree to leave the West Bank. What you will not discuss is Abbas has stated he will forcefully expel or kill 500,000 Jews in the Hebron area who have lived there for over 4,000 years anddo not recognize the state of Israel.  He has also stated he won't accept a second Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza. He has said openly over and over no different than Hamas, until Israel pre 1967 is turned into a Muslim state by allowing any Arab who claims his blood line is Palestinian (with no test) to "return" to Israel when they have never lived there and be given land ownership immediately. So I have stated anti Israelis like you are full of shit. You pretend the only obstacle to peace  is settlements. No its people like you who come on this forum and lie and couch their words and don't have the integrity to state they don't believe in a Jewish state of Israel and instead play semantics and deflect from their true agenda which is to argue a Jew is inferior to a Muslim and can't own land let alone have a state.

In regards to 14 I have never come on this forum and ever suggested there are races let alone some or one superior to others which would constitute racism. You on the other hand call Zionism the concept of defining Jews as a political national collective as referring to us believing we are a superior race which makes you an anti semite. Your discrimination against believing Jews have the same right to a Jewish state no different than Muslim states  makes you an anti semite.

In regards to 15, I am a well known Kadima-Labour supporter. I always have supported Tzipi Levni but I have defended certain Israeli policies you do not understand and use as a pretext to call Netanyahu personal names. I agree with some but not all of his policies. I unlike you spend a considerable time reading Israeli state policies. They are complex and someone like Netanyahu must manage a coalition which necessarily does not allow him  to be as partisan as you make him out to me. To last as long as he has, he had to learn to take completely different political parties and have them work together-you haven't a clue what he stands for-to you he is the leader of Israel, therefore someone for you to hate.

In regards to 23,  your use of the phrase "expansionist policies" is a code word for the anti Israeli myth that Jews want to take over the world and Israelis want to control all the Middle East and seize it. In fact it is the Koran and the constitutions  of Hamas, Hezbollah, and the PA, not to mention over 300 other terrorist Palestinian cells that call for taking not just the West Bank and Gaza but all of Israel as the first step in creating a Palestinian sharia law state, which eventually is to amalgamate with all other sharia law Muslim states to run the entire world through a Muslim council. Interesting how you call Israel expansionist when its very enemies openly talk of their Muslim war to liberate the world from infidel and in that process wiping out all kafir.

In regards to 25, thanks for sharing you hate Saudis. That is helpful to the peace process and having people believe you are respectful and loving. By the way for someone who is so concerned about stolen land, where were you when 900,000 Jews, of which 750,000  were forced to flee to Israel with nothing, from Arab countries in retaliation for Israel being created> Where were you when these Arab governments stole anything these Jews had? Where are you now expressing in a comprehensive peace settlement this has to be addressed no different than these alleged injustices to Palestinians? Why the silence? Where were you when Arab League nations imprisoned millions of Palestinians in camps saying, they would use them as pawns, until they get Israel back and in that process of imprisoning them stole all their property..where were you when Nasser created the Gaza strip as an open air jail to imprison Palestinians and set his army in and striopped them of their belingings? Where were you when Syria's army, Lebanon's Army, then Hamas and Hezbollah did the same to Palestinians. Where were you when the Palestinian Auuthority stole billions in foreign aid and still does leaving its people to depend on the Israelis to feed them? What selective world do you live in because I will tell you thins, you have never been to the West Bank or Gaza or Jordan or Israel. You haven't a clue who stole from who. You instead spew scripts left over from Nazis who moved to the Middle East after WW2 and then the KGB. You don't even have a clue where the script you spew comes from/

In regards to 26, you are full of it. In one breath you claim you don't support terrorism, then in the next breath repeat the Hamas-PA script verbatim.

In regards to 29, let me state it again, I provide all the words from you I challenge. I think the words I show you to have stated evidence are an anti Israeli, anti-Jewish people bigot trying to justify and purify your hatred by claiming its simply you defending Palestinians. You could care less who Palestinians are. you have never been to the West Bank, You use them as a pawn, a pretense, an excuse. You exploit them worse than any Zionist you call names.

In regards to 30 and 32 I have with specific words exposed you as a manipulative, dishnest bigot trying to deflecy by accusing others of the very bigotry you spew. You came on this thread and tried to accuse Argus of lumping all Arabs in a herd because he rightfully pointed out there is no distinguishable physical characteristics in the Middle East and Islam in the Middle East is not democratic, its imposed in Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc., by Mullahs enforcing archaic codes of behaviour. If you want to deny the Muslim world of the Middle East is a series of out of control mobs killing each other knock yourself out Paint it is utopia with civilized people unique in expression and belief and where individuality is cherished and nourished. Only save that shit, for some guilt ridden liberal.

You came on this forum and in your knee jerk reaction to try activate accusations of intolerance against him and incite liberal guilt you showed what a racist and bigot you are and you repeat it yet again in your latest response.

The genertic differences you refer to do NOT and have never made the people you claim have these genetic differences look different. These are invisible differences to the human eye. More importantly you keep dwelling on these genetic differences as being politically significant. That then makes you a pathetic racist trying to use genetic difference to argue political, national  and religious differences.

I not you argued from the get go the genetic differences between Azeri, Jewish, Arab, Kurd, Persian do not make them look different and any differences were political or religious or even caused by difference in clothing,. You flipped and flopped quoting articles that supported by contention these genetic differences are irrelevant-they don't define Jews or Palestinians or Muslims as races. They don't make us look different. Look at your words. Of course we look like each other. Who the phack do you think we are> If we do not look like each other, then we necessarly must look different. You keep calling Argus the racist for saying we look the same to him. You are the racist. Its you who sees the differences and when I ask why do we "look different" explain the physical characteristics that make us look different you refused to answer knowing any answer would necessarily engage in racist stereotypes.

So call me all the names you wan Kactus but I have read your script. Its identical to the script Marcus and Hudson Jones use. You engage in the same canards, he same anti semitic references couched as being anti Israeli and the same bull shit claims you speak for Palestinians when you never met one but man they are convenient aren't they.

As for your comments that you don't defend sharia law you sure as hell do. The very reason you don't dare state you agree in a Jewish state of Israel is because you believe in sharia law and it prohibits you from saying that.

You remain silent and refuse to condone Altai's use of the word khafir on this board knowing to do so you would be an unloyal Muslim to your cause.

You deny that? Go on deny it. Go on. Sit on your ass when you see someone engaging in Mulsim extremist beliefs and remain silent and then in the next breath say you don't support their beliefs.

Who you playing with Kactus? You think I give a flying phack what you are afraid to state on this board?

When you have the balls to state to me to my face, you don't believe in a Jewish state of Israel because of your Muslim religious beliefs, then I might take you with some seriousness. But you don't. You hide our religion, your hide your true agenda. You spit out your nudge nudge wink wink coded words, Zionism is racism, Arabs don't look like Jews,  THE Jews hate Palestinians-who the phack do you fool? Oh but hey you hate Saudi Arabia. That was brave. You come on this board and spit at Saudi Arabia which has nothing to do with this thread and you were the same whiny individual who told me I raised Iran in these communications back and forth with you because I am obsessed with hating Iran.

Tell me, tell the board why you hate Saudi Arabia. Tell them why. Tell them what your political beliefs are and why you support Iran and not Saudi Arabia. Tell them why you would support Assad an Alawite who are less than 2% of the country instead of the 80% of Sunnis who live in Syria. Go on. I aint stopping you. Tell me why you support Iran and share Turkish animosity against Kurds?

You have me confused with someone liberal and guilt ridden. Save your pathetic role playing as he defender of Palestinians for someone else.  

 

 

 

 

 

[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

 

In regards to 8, if I am an Israeli cheerleader because I defend Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state you bet. If I am an Israelio cheerleader because I challenge you using the pretext of discussing Israel to smeer THE Jews in one breath of all having the same belief, you bet. As doe your allegation I call people who disagree with me terrorists, uh no not at all. In fact JPG and I had a protacted dispute on this forum about him generalizing in a negative way about all Muslims. I never accused him fo being a terrorist. I've had the same argument with DOP, never called him a terrorist. I've called out Taxme as a neo Nazi, never called him a terrorist. I've called many people out on this forum, can't recall acusing anyone of being a terrorist. It wouldn't surprise me at all tough if Hudson Jones, Ghost, Eye, you,. Marcus, Altai, are sym;pathetic with and support Palestinian terrorists.

 

 

I don't generalize "all Muslims". Nobody can.

I do, however, have only the Quran/Hadiths to go by re: their religion's ultimate motives.

"Fight them until religion, all of it, is for Allah."*

That's swell that most Muslims leave the actual hand-to-hand fighting to the Jihadis. But generally, I'd prefer to avoid letting a cult that wants me submissive or dead, into my peaceful society (too late). But long-range thinking isn't a virtue with humans....

*(that includes YOU, you dirty Atheists)

 

 

[kactus]

 

5 hours ago, Rue said:

Don't practice medicine. Prostates have nothing to do with the digestive system.  It explains a lot  about you though.

I never said it has anything to do with it. As usual you are playing with wirds as you have done throughout your entire posts....,

[kactus]

5 hours ago, Rue said:

Sorry your English got a bit garbled on that one. Feel free to respond in Arabic or Farsi.

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You think your broken long essays are perfect english? Feel free to respond in hebrew if it helps.

[kactus]

10 hours ago, Rue said:

I numbered your comments to expedite responding to them.

 

In regards to 1- go back and read my response. I gave an extensive list of the Jewish superheroes I am aligned with.

In regards to 2-since you have stated  and I quote;  "I accept the right of Israel to exist in its own territory." 100 times, I guess this is my 101st reply stating you are a dishonest coward for making that statement. You will not come on this forum and state you accept Israel 's right to exist AS A JEWISH state in its own territory. You play semantics deliberately refusing to say you recognize the right of Israel to be Jewish. You engage in the semantic game Mr. Abbas now states where in one breath he says he will recognize Israel and then next breath states but only on the condition it first becomes majority Muslim.  Everytime you repeat it and omit reference to trecognizing Israel as a Jewish state you show you are full of shit playing semantics.

In regards to 4- in fact I did directly respond to the OP thread which in fact did not state what you said. The actual OP accused Netanyahu of being a racist. Then it was deflected not by me but anti Israel pissantes to then claim all Israelis are racist against Palestinians. Then they turned it into a general attack on Israel's existence as a Jewish state. I was not the one to deflect the thread. Your decision to single me out as deflecting from the thread and ignore all your anti Israel pissantes including you most of all deflecting from this thread using it as a pretext to call all Zionists racist, etc., speaks for itself and this is why you have no credibility. You not only forget what the op is, but you deny your role and the role of your Israeli puissant colleagues in engaging in the Israel pissing contest. I simply respond to the pissing and send your piss back where it originated from. You piss on Israel I will send it back in your face.

In regards to 5, no I do not deflect, I respond to a deflection.

In regards to 6,  you recycle the Jewish canard that the concept of Jews being called the chosen people means we think we are superior to others. You then try couch it by using the word "some" before you say Jews. You do so because at the pith and substance of your argument is that Zionism is racism because Zionist Jews believe they are superior to Arabs. Zionism has nothing to do with race or religion. It has to do with the concept od defining Jews as a political collective equal not superior to any Muslim or Christian states. So you can make all the veiled reference to "some Jews" think they are superior and then use that as a pretense to piss on Israel but the fact is you don't engage in the same criticism of Muslim countries or terrorist cells who have superiority beliefs, and you do not come on this forum and say Islam by defining non believers as Kafir is a necessarily bigoted religion and it is this belief that non Muslims are kafir that cause is what is behind them refusing to consider Israel a Jewish state, because then Jews could own land, and have a legal state equal to Muslim states which is a direct challenge to the concept of Jews not being able to be equal and have a state or own land.

In regards to 7, I will state it again-you slur me and Jews as thinking we are superior, you then being the anti semite you are select us out and accuse us all  of hating Palestinians. This time you didn't couch your reference with "some" Jews or even "some" Israels you used the reference THE JEWS. That shows you attack all Jews. You single all Jews out and smeer us as hating Palestinians. You don't criticize Christians or people of any other religion of hating Palestinians just Jews, or as you stated THE Jews. That makes you a snively anti semitic bigot. You don't select out the Muslims of all the Middle East nations that discriminate against Palestinians, only THE Jews.

In regards to 8, if I am an Israeli cheerleader because I defend Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state you bet. If I am an Israelio cheerleader because I challenge you using the pretext of discussing Israel to smeer THE Jews in one breath of all having the same belief, you bet. As doe your allegation I call people who disagree with me terrorists, uh no not at all. In fact JPG and I had a protacted dispute on this forum about him generalizing in a negative way about all Muslims. I never accused him fo being a terrorist. I've had the same argument with DOP, never called him a terrorist. I've called out Taxme as a neo Nazi, never called him a terrorist. I've called many people out on this forum, can't recall acusing anyone of being a terrorist. It wouldn't surprise me at all tough if Hudson Jones, Ghost, Eye, you,. Marcus, Altai, are sym;pathetic with and support Palestinian terrorists.

In regards to 9, Zionism is not racism but you are an anti semitic bigot for chanting this statement. Zionism does not define Jews as a race and never has. It defines Jews as a political collective. You call it racist before you believe it defines Jews as a race. The concept that Jews are a race is a Nazi anti semitic canard brought to the Palestinian nationalist movementby the Mullah of Jerusalem an avowed Nazi. The fact you repeat his script says a lot. Nothing in Zionism defines a Jew or anyone else by race or for that matter by religion. You are an anti-Semite. You define Jews as a race. We are not a race. We are semites no different from Arabs. You define us as race, because the anti Zionist crap you repeat is based on defining Jews as thinking we are a superior race. Its called Nazi inversion. You accuse us of the very thing Nazis did to justify the holocaust knowing it insults Jews and calls us the same thing as Nazis when it is the Palestinian national movement that allied with the Nazis and ex Nazis who moved to Egypt, Syria and Iraq and ran their governments and failed to wipe out Jews a second time in the Middle Easy. You engage in this bull shit false canard precisely because you deflect from the actual thread and when you saw the word racism, jumped on it to repeat the same pathetic Zionism is racism canard.

In regards to 10

In regards to 11, 21, 23, 27, 28  you again deflect the topic of the thread  and and try engage me and all Jews n reference to stealing homes from Palestinians. In your selective analysis you ignore the actual fact that Muslims moving to the West Bank in fact took more land away from any Palestinians than any Israelis have to this day and this is precisely why Arafat blew up the land titles office-to hide this fact. To this day Muslims descended from Arabs who came to Palestine no differently than Jews and who illegally took the land from the existing Palestinian Muslims are ignored by you. You pretend they too are Palestinian. You apply a standard that when a non Muslims stole or physically took land from Muslim Palestinians this now qualifies them as being Palestinians but any Jew who was thrown out of Arab league nations and forced to flee to Israel and the Jews who always lived in Palestine and the Jews who fled the holocaust who came to Palestine-only they are thieves. This is why you are full of shit and have no credibility. You have no idea who Palestinians are. You buy into a script given to you by Arabs who in fact came to Palestine no different than Jews, the difference being Jews bought the land-Palestinians engaged in selling  same parcel of land to dozens of Palestinians at the same time. I have stated settlements on the West Bank if there is to be a genuine peace have to be dismantled and Jews agree to leave the West Bank. What you will not discuss is Abbas has stated he will forcefully expel or kill 500,000 Jews in the Hebron area who have lived there for over 4,000 years anddo not recognize the state of Israel.  He has also stated he won't accept a second Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza. He has said openly over and over no different than Hamas, until Israel pre 1967 is turned into a Muslim state by allowing any Arab who claims his blood line is Palestinian (with no test) to "return" to Israel when they have never lived there and be given land ownership immediately. So I have stated anti Israelis like you are full of shit. You pretend the only obstacle to peace  is settlements. No its people like you who come on this forum and lie and couch their words and don't have the integrity to state they don't believe in a Jewish state of Israel and instead play semantics and deflect from their true agenda which is to argue a Jew is inferior to a Muslim and can't own land let alone have a state.

In regards to 14 I have never come on this forum and ever suggested there are races let alone some or one superior to others which would constitute racism. You on the other hand call Zionism the concept of defining Jews as a political national collective as referring to us believing we are a superior race which makes you an anti semite. Your discrimination against believing Jews have the same right to a Jewish state no different than Muslim states  makes you an anti semite.

In regards to 15, I am a well known Kadima-Labour supporter. I always have supported Tzipi Levni but I have defended certain Israeli policies you do not understand and use as a pretext to call Netanyahu personal names. I agree with some but not all of his policies. I unlike you spend a considerable time reading Israeli state policies. They are complex and someone like Netanyahu must manage a coalition which necessarily does not allow him  to be as partisan as you make him out to me. To last as long as he has, he had to learn to take completely different political parties and have them work together-you haven't a clue what he stands for-to you he is the leader of Israel, therefore someone for you to hate.

In regards to 23,  your use of the phrase "expansionist policies" is a code word for the anti Israeli myth that Jews want to take over the world and Israelis want to control all the Middle East and seize it. In fact it is the Koran and the constitutions  of Hamas, Hezbollah, and the PA, not to mention over 300 other terrorist Palestinian cells that call for taking not just the West Bank and Gaza but all of Israel as the first step in creating a Palestinian sharia law state, which eventually is to amalgamate with all other sharia law Muslim states to run the entire world through a Muslim council. Interesting how you call Israel expansionist when its very enemies openly talk of their Muslim war to liberate the world from infidel and in that process wiping out all kafir.

In regards to 25, thanks for sharing you hate Saudis. That is helpful to the peace process and having people believe you are respectful and loving. By the way for someone who is so concerned about stolen land, where were you when 900,000 Jews, of which 750,000  were forced to flee to Israel with nothing, from Arab countries in retaliation for Israel being created> Where were you when these Arab governments stole anything these Jews had? Where are you now expressing in a comprehensive peace settlement this has to be addressed no different than these alleged injustices to Palestinians? Why the silence? Where were you when Arab League nations imprisoned millions of Palestinians in camps saying, they would use them as pawns, until they get Israel back and in that process of imprisoning them stole all their property..where were you when Nasser created the Gaza strip as an open air jail to imprison Palestinians and set his army in and striopped them of their belingings? Where were you when Syria's army, Lebanon's Army, then Hamas and Hezbollah did the same to Palestinians. Where were you when the Palestinian Auuthority stole billions in foreign aid and still does leaving its people to depend on the Israelis to feed them? What selective world do you live in because I will tell you thins, you have never been to the West Bank or Gaza or Jordan or Israel. You haven't a clue who stole from who. You instead spew scripts left over from Nazis who moved to the Middle East after WW2 and then the KGB. You don't even have a clue where the script you spew comes from/

In regards to 26, you are full of it. In one breath you claim you don't support terrorism, then in the next breath repeat the Hamas-PA script verbatim.

In regards to 29, let me state it again, I provide all the words from you I challenge. I think the words I show you to have stated evidence are an anti Israeli, anti-Jewish people bigot trying to justify and purify your hatred by claiming its simply you defending Palestinians. You could care less who Palestinians are. you have never been to the West Bank, You use them as a pawn, a pretense, an excuse. You exploit them worse than any Zionist you call names.

In regards to 30 and 32 I have with specific words exposed you as a manipulative, dishnest bigot trying to deflecy by accusing others of the very bigotry you spew. You came on this thread and tried to accuse Argus of lumping all Arabs in a herd because he rightfully pointed out there is no distinguishable physical characteristics in the Middle East and Islam in the Middle East is not democratic, its imposed in Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc., by Mullahs enforcing archaic codes of behaviour. If you want to deny the Muslim world of the Middle East is a series of out of control mobs killing each other knock yourself out Paint it is utopia with civilized people unique in expression and belief and where individuality is cherished and nourished. Only save that shit, for some guilt ridden liberal.

You came on this forum and in your knee jerk reaction to try activate accusations of intolerance against him and incite liberal guilt you showed what a racist and bigot you are and you repeat it yet again in your latest response.

The genertic differences you refer to do NOT and have never made the people you claim have these genetic differences look different. These are invisible differences to the human eye. More importantly you keep dwelling on these genetic differences as being politically significant. That then makes you a pathetic racist trying to use genetic difference to argue political, national  and religious differences.

I not you argued from the get go the genetic differences between Azeri, Jewish, Arab, Kurd, Persian do not make them look different and any differences were political or religious or even caused by difference in clothing,. You flipped and flopped quoting articles that supported by contention these genetic differences are irrelevant-they don't define Jews or Palestinians or Muslims as races. They don't make us look different. Look at your words. Of course we look like each other. Who the phack do you think we are> If we do not look like each other, then we necessarly must look different. You keep calling Argus the racist for saying we look the same to him. You are the racist. Its you who sees the differences and when I ask why do we "look different" explain the physical characteristics that make us look different you refused to answer knowing any answer would necessarily engage in racist stereotypes.

So call me all the names you wan Kactus but I have read your script. Its identical to the script Marcus and Hudson Jones use. You engage in the same canards, he same anti semitic references couched as being anti Israeli and the same bull shit claims you speak for Palestinians when you never met one but man they are convenient aren't they.

As for your comments that you don't defend sharia law you sure as hell do. The very reason you don't dare state you agree in a Jewish state of Israel is because you believe in sharia law and it prohibits you from saying that.

You remain silent and refuse to condone Altai's use of the word khafir on this board knowing to do so you would be an unloyal Muslim to your cause.

You deny that? Go on deny it. Go on. Sit on your ass when you see someone engaging in Mulsim extremist beliefs and remain silent and then in the next breath say you don't support their beliefs.

Who you playing with Kactus? You think I give a flying phack what you are afraid to state on this board?

When you have the balls to state to me to my face, you don't believe in a Jewish state of Israel because of your Muslim religious beliefs, then I might take you with some seriousness. But you don't. You hide our religion, your hide your true agenda. You spit out your nudge nudge wink wink coded words, Zionism is racism, Arabs don't look like Jews,  THE Jews hate Palestinians-who the phack do you fool? Oh but hey you hate Saudi Arabia. That was brave. You come on this board and spit at Saudi Arabia which has nothing to do with this thread and you were the same whiny individual who told me I raised Iran in these communications back and forth with you because I am obsessed with hating Iran.

Tell me, tell the board why you hate Saudi Arabia. Tell them why. Tell them what your political beliefs are and why you support Iran and not Saudi Arabia. Tell them why you would support Assad an Alawite who are less than 2% of the country instead of the 80% of Sunnis who live in Syria. Go on. I aint stopping you. Tell me why you support Iran and share Turkish animosity against Kurds?

You have me confused with someone liberal and guilt ridden. Save your pathetic role playing as he defender of Palestinians for someone else.  

 

 

 

 

 

Save your bs anti semitism canards for graveyard...For so long as you come on this forum to neglect the rights of certain people for the sake of expanding on the jewish state you better be damn ready to get a response from me. It is exactly the kind of mindset like yours that explains why there would never be peace in that region. Always playing the victim card...

I am not going to bother with the rest of your long winded essay anymore as I have gone through great details to explain and you have deliberately taken my words out of context and changed what I have said to suit your argument....It's like you write these long essays instead of a short and concise commentary to preach to anyone who reads it how morally justified you are and we are the bad guys. Grow up! It's past getting lame....

Edited September 18, 2017 by kactus

[Rue]

8 hours ago, kactus said:

Save your bs anti semitism canards for graveyard...For so long as you come on this forum to neglect the rights of certain people for the sake of expanding on the jewish state you better be damn ready to get a response from me. It is exactly the kind of mindset like yours that explains why there would never be peace in that region. Always playing the victim card...

I am not going to bother with the rest of your long winded essay anymore as I have gone through great details to explain and you have deliberately taken my words out of context and changed what I have said to suit your argument....It's like you write these long essays instead of a short and concise commentary to preach to anyone who reads it how morally justified you are and we are the bad guys. Grow up! It's past getting lame....

Calling you an anti semite and a liar, does not make me a victim. Do not delude yourself into thinking you or the hatred you stand for can victimize anyone let alone Jews.

Your words are a joke. They are at this point cowardly. I have not taken your words out of context. I have given you opportunity after opportunity to come on this forum

and state:

1-you recognize a Jewish state of Israel;

2-why Arabs, Azeris, Jews, etc., look different.

You ran. You ran from me. You play pathetic semantic games where you refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish state or prove your allegation Jews look different then Arabs.

When caught and challenged you ran and you still do.

As long as you come on this board and lie, mislead, misrepresent, I will challenge your hatred.

Your words every last anti Jewish one are on this board and I have quoted them and challenged them because you smeer all THE Jews in your comments.

You come on this forum denying you are an anti semite, and then in the next breath slur THE Jews. That makes you what you are, a bigot who denies what he says. You don't have the balls to admit what you are trying to cloak yourself and justify your hatred of Jews by saying you hate Saudi Arabia. What a friggin joke.

Let me make clear how full of shit you are. You don't represent Palestinians you are an anti-Semite whose upbringing in Iran makesd you hate not just Jews but Sunni Muslims and Kurds as is evident in your responses to me. Deny it. Run from it. Hide what you are. Your very responses play the role of victim for being challenged for being a bigot.

What you can't stand is I won't stay silent to your bigotry against Jews and let you victimize me or Kurds or Saudis  anyone else you think makes you sound more credible when stereotyping them.

For me you are nothing more than a jihadi warrior sofa boy and you really do need to put me on your banished list. As for your comment "we are the bad guys". There is no we. No matter how plural you make yourself you are not we. You are one bigot who speaks for himself. That's the difference between us. You smeer all Jews as thinking the same, I don't blame or assume any Iranian thinks like you except extremist Shiite bigoted ones. You are not a we. Stop inflating youself. You are just like me another putz on a forum  exchanging your subjective views as to why you hate Jews, Zionists and Israel.

Yer a dime a dozen in this word.

By the way telling me I call "we " "the bad guys" is about as moronic as it gets. Bad guys? This isn't some pathetic fantasy you have with "good and bad guys" its about extremist terrorism being financed by Iran that terrorizes both Palestinians and Israelis equally.

[Rue]

9 hours ago, kactus said:

You think your broken long essays are perfect english? Feel free to respond in hebrew if it helps.

Its not an essay. Its responses to your comments. In your case I respond in Yiddish. Only one word is needed-PUTZ. Well maybe two, shmeel. Ok 3, shmo. O.k. 4,  shlump.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[kactus]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

Its not an essay. Its responses to your comments. In your case I respond in Yiddish. Only one word is needed-PUTZ. Well maybe two, shmeel. Ok 3, shmo. O.k. 4,  shlump.

You can stick it up your ar$e

1 hour ago, Rue said:

 

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[DogOnPorch]

29 minutes ago, kactus said:

You can stick it up your ar$e

Victory Rue.

[kactus]

2 hours ago, Rue said:

Calling you an anti semite and a liar, does not make me a victim. Do not delude yourself into thinking you or the hatred you stand for can victimize anyone let alone Jews.

Your words are a joke. They are at this point cowardly. I have not taken your words out of context. I have given you opportunity after opportunity to come on this forum

and state:

1-you recognize a Jewish state of Israel;

2-why Arabs, Azeris, Jews, etc., look different.

You ran. You ran from me. You play pathetic semantic games where you refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish state or prove your allegation Jews look different then Arabs.

When caught and challenged you ran and you still do.

As long as you come on this board and lie, mislead, misrepresent, I will challenge your hatred.

Your words every last anti Jewish one are on this board and I have quoted them and challenged them because you smeer all THE Jews in your comments.

You come on this forum denying you are an anti semite, and then in the next breath slur THE Jews. That makes you what you are, a bigot who denies what he says. You don't have the balls to admit what you are trying to cloak yourself and justify your hatred of Jews by saying you hate Saudi Arabia. What a friggin joke.

Let me make clear how full of shit you are. You don't represent Palestinians you are an anti-Semite whose upbringing in Iran makesd you hate not just Jews but Sunni Muslims and Kurds as is evident in your responses to me. Deny it. Run from it. Hide what you are. Your very responses play the role of victim for being challenged for being a bigot.

What you can't stand is I won't stay silent to your bigotry against Jews and let you victimize me or Kurds or Saudis  anyone else you think makes you sound more credible when stereotyping them.

For me you are nothing more than a jihadi warrior sofa boy and you really do need to put me on your banished list. As for your comment "we are the bad guys". There is no we. No matter how plural you make yourself you are not we. You are one bigot who speaks for himself. That's the difference between us. You smeer all Jews as thinking the same, I don't blame or assume any Iranian thinks like you except extremist Shiite bigoted ones. You are not a we. Stop inflating youself. You are just like me another putz on a forum  exchanging your subjective views as to why you hate Jews, Zionists and Israel.

Yer a dime a dozen in this word.

By the way telling me I call "we " "the bad guys" is about as moronic as it gets. Bad guys? This isn't some pathetic fantasy you have with "good and bad guys" its about extremist terrorism being financed by Iran that terrorizes both Palestinians and Israelis equally.

Duly noted...You will have the 'appropriate' response in course....

[Hudson Jones]

On 9/16/2017 at 12:09 AM, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Of course I can, even if you don't like such an inconvenient truth.

Why are you being ridiculous?

There is no truth behind what you're saying.

Let's go through the comparisons (Before you jump into your time travel machine, to try to compare Canada from centuries ago: This is about Canada's treatment of the natives vs Israel's treatment of Palestinians - TODAY and under our current rules and regulations):

Which country has control over the movement of the people, through airspace control, checkpoints, border control?
Canada: No
Israel: Yes

Which country detains children indefinitely and tortures them?
Canada: No
Israel: Yes

Which country regularly bombs the 'other people' and kills them and destroys their infrastructure?
Canada: No
Israel: Yes

Which country forcefully confiscates property and resources and shuts the group from receiving any?
Canada: No
Israel: Yes

Which country has created zones, specifically for one group, not allowing the other group from entering it or using it?
Canada: No
Israel: Yes

 

[bush_cheney2004]

6 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said:

Why are you being ridiculous?

There is no truth behind what you're saying.

 

Thank you for confirming just how much worse Canada has been in the past and now (scope and scale).

Israel has occupied territories....Canada has permanent reserve ghettos.

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[Hudson Jones]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Thank you for confirming just how much worse Canada has been in the past and now (scope and scale).

Israel has occupied territories....Canada has permanent reserve ghettos.

Eh?

I just showed you that you cannot draw a parallel and that you are being ridiculous when you try to.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Hudson Jones said:

Eh?

I just showed you that you cannot draw a parallel and that you are being ridiculous when you try to.

 

All you have done is highlight Canada's "human rights" crimes...then and now.

Israel is the size of Vancouver Island.    Do I have to do the math for you ?

[Hudson Jones]

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

All you have done is highlight Canada's "human rights" crimes...then and now.

Israel is the size of Vancouver Island.    Do I have to do the math for you ?

What are you talking about?

I even colourized it and made it pretty for you, so it's easier to understand.

I listed what Israel has done and what Canada has not.

 

[kactus]

9 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said:

What are you talking about?

I even colourized it and made it pretty for you, so it's easier to understand.

I listed what Israel has done and what Canada has not.

 

Common stop this anti semitism. Why do you broadcast truth. It is not for public domain and people not familiar with the conflict to know. Don't you know any criticism against Israel is like criticism of US of A? Canada is a scapegoat...

Edited September 18, 2017 by kactus

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Hudson Jones said:

What are you talking about?

 

I am talking about the past and present Canadian crimes that you want to ignore compared to Israel.

Canada's domestic crimes against "aboriginals" and other "visible minorities" is so normalized, even the racist labels are accepted as appropriate.

Canada's military crosses vast oceans to attack locals far away, and then the Canadian corporations move to pillage resources for fun and profit (e.g. mining, oil services).

[kactus]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

I am talking about the past and present Canadian crimes that you want to ignore compared to Israel.

Canada's domestic crimes against "aboriginals" and other "visible minorities" is so normalized, even the racist labels are accepted as appropriate.

Canada's military crosses vast oceans to attack locals far away, and then the Canadian corporations move to pillage resources for fun and profit (e.g. mining, oil services).

If canadians don't their militarily stronger neighbor to the south will certainly take care of that as the history has shown.

Edited September 18, 2017 by kactus

[bush_cheney2004]

Meanwhile, Canada continues its long history of anti-Semitism:

 

Quote

Anti-Semitism is on the rise in the country, a Jewish advocacy group said Tuesday, calling it a "made in Canada" phenomenon.

B'nai Brith Canada, which has been tracking anti-Semitic incidents for 35 years, said 1,728 anti-Semitic incidents were reported across the country last year — a 26 per cent increase from 2015 and the highest number the group has ever recorded.

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/anti-semitic-incidents-in-canada-highest-on-record-last-year-bnai-brith/article34929696/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&

 

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, kactus said:

If canadians don't do their militarily stronger neighbour in the south will certainly take care of that as the history has shown.

 

Agreed...Canada's past and present war crimes around the world are normalized and accepted by critics of Israel.

[kactus]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Agreed...Canada's past and present war crimes around the world are normalized and accepted by critics of Israel.

That's because time has moved on but apparently not in Israel and how they treat the semite arab cousins.

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, kactus said:

That's because time has moved on but apparently not in Israel and how they treat the semite arab cousins.

 

Time has not moved on for "aboriginals" or "visible minorities" in Canada....or people far across the ocean.

Israel acts for nation state interest(s) just like Canada, but Canada smugly pretends to be virtuous and innocent of its many "war crimes".

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