Venezuela??

[hot enough]

See CIA involvement in Venezuela.

Edited August 11, 2017 by hot enough

[bush_cheney2004]

It seems that fleeing Venezuelans cannot live on nano thermite conspiracy theories....

 

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The Venezuelans who came to United States during the Chavez years tended to be wealthier, often members of the elite whose businesses had been seized in expropriations or whose economic clout was perceived as a threat. In the U.S., they often obtained legal residency with investment visas, opening enterprises in South Florida, where most have settled.

Many of the Venezuelans now seeking food and other assistance in South Florida were once middle class professionals who decide they could no longer tolerate increasing misery, crime, food shortages and lack of medical care in their homeland.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida/articles/2017-04-23/more-venezuelans-struggle-in-us-as-their-country-implodes

 

[hot enough]

21 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

The Venezuelans who came to United States during the Chavez years tended to be wealthier, often members of the elite whose businesses had been seized in expropriations or whose economic clout was perceived as a threat. In the U.S., they often obtained legal residency with investment visas, opening enterprises in South Florida, where most have settled.

Those are always the kind of people who sell out their country, who align themselves with the depraved war criminals/terrorist Americans that are your warmly embraced reality? They aren't refugees, they are the evil people that have always been willing to cling to US government gangsters. 

Why do you cling to a reality that is so deeply evil? Does your mother approve of your evil?

[hot enough]

26 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

It seems that fleeing Venezuelans cannot live on nano thermite conspiracy theories....

Why are you so typically juvenile in your responses?

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Apart from the deep involvement of the US, the primary organization of the Venezuelan business elite (FEDECAMARAS), as well as all the major private television, radio and newspaper outlets have been engaged in a campaign of fear and intimidation campaign. Food producers, wholesale and retail distributors have created artificial shortages of basic food items and have provoked large scale capital flight to sow chaos in the hopes of reaping a ‘no’ vote.

This describes the standard evil behavior of the USA. Note how the US media will seize on these US artificially created shortages and use them in US relentless chock full of lies propaganda. 

John Stockwell, see below, though he is describing the fact situation for Nicaragua, the same things are done by the CIA/US government in every one of their terrorist actions against poor countries that they desire to rape and pillage. 

To destabilize Nicaragua beginning in 1981, we began funding this force of Somoza's ex-national guardsmen, calling them the contras (the counter-revolutionaries). We created this force, it did not exist until we allocated money. We've armed them, put uniforms on their backs, boots on their feet, given them camps in Honduras to live in, medical supplies, doctors, training, leadership, direction, as we've sent them in to de-stabilize Nicaragua. Under our direction they have systematically been blowing up graineries, saw mills, bridges, government offices, schools, health centers. They ambush trucks so the produce can't get to market. They raid farms and villages. The farmer has to carry a gun while he tries to plow, if he can plow at all.

If you want one example of hard proof of the CIA's involvement in this, and their approach to it, dig up `The Sabotage Manual', that they were circulating throughout Nicaragua, a comic-book type of a paper, with visual explanations of what you can do to bring a society to a halt, how you can gum up typewriters, what you can pour in a gas tank to burn up engines, what you can stuff in a sewage to stop up the sewage so it won't work, things you can do to make a society simply cease to function.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/StockwellCIA87_2.html

[bush_cheney2004]

16 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Those are always the kind of people who sell out their country,

 

Sure...this woman and her plea on U.S. cable news are so evil....

 

 

 

 

[hot enough]

9 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Sure...this woman an

I see you learned some US propaganda in your long US war criminal supporting career. What a terrible waste of a life, supporting such deep, abiding evil.

And you ignored how the US is always up to its eyeballs in terrorism. 

[bush_cheney2004]

Venezuela today.....even nano thermite cannot save them:

 

 

[hot enough]

13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Venezuela today.....even nano thermite cannot save them:

Is it imperative that US navy "officers" always act in a totally juvenile and delusional manner? 

Of course nothing can save them, they have been in the sights of the most evil entity ever created by mankind, and I use that word advisedly, the USA. 

And you are so proud to be part of it all. 

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[bush_cheney2004]

24 minutes ago, hot enough said:

..... Does your mother approve of your evil?

 

I will ask her for you...oh wait....my mother is dead.  

Hope you don't mind her silence.

[hot enough]

12 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

I will ask her for you...oh wait....my mother is dead.  

Hope you don't mind her silence.

She doesn't need to suffer that she raised a monster, a person who heartily embraces the deepest of evil.

[Goddess]

14 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

I will ask her for you...oh wait....my mother is dead.  

Hope you don't mind her silence.

 

9 minutes ago, hot enough said:

She doesn't need to suffer that she raised a monster, a person who heartily embraces the deepest of evil.

Wow.  I didn't think it was possible, but you are getting really low with the insults.

Edited August 11, 2017 by Goddess

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, hot enough said:

She doesn't need to suffer that she raised a monster, a person who heartily embraces the deepest of evil.

 

Rather than insulting my dead mother, direct your questions to Hugo Chavez's mother instead...she still lives quite well.

 

 

[hot enough]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Rather than insulting my dead mother,

I didn't insult your mother, I simply described how she doesn't have to suffer having raised a self-admitted monster. One who isn't able to face up to the evil realities he/she wholly embraces. 

[betsy]

1 hour ago, hot enough said:

She doesn't need to suffer that she raised a monster, a person who heartily embraces the deepest of evil.

 

Are you gay?   You talk like my friend...... so full of drama..........

[betsy]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

 

Wow.  I didn't think it was possible, but you are getting really low with the insults.

Indeed. 

But he cracks me up with his dramatic words..........I'm still laughing!

[hot enough]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

 

Wow.  I didn't think it was possible, but you are getting really low with the insults.

I knew it was possible for you, Goddess, to offer support for people who fully support, express great love, for people who behead innocents, slash women's breasts off, skin people alive, offer bounties for the heads and scalps of innocents, carpet bomb people, participate in war crimes, support planned US genocides, all the various and sundry evils committed by the US over its two centuries of carnage. 

How low is a person who constantly expresses the greatest of admiration for war criminals/terrorists who will plan the murders of millions of people?

Venezuela will be no different. 

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[hot enough]

13 minutes ago, betsy said:

Are you gay?   You talk like my friend...... so full of drama..........

You have as much trouble facing reality as Goddess, Betsy. The following describes US terrorism, how it always works, how it has always worked. Will you thrill to the further slaughter of innocents by the USA, just as you thrill to the past slaughter of innocents? There really isn't much greater evil than that. 

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The Opposition

With strong financial backing from the US Embassy ($8 million dollars in propaganda alone according to the Embassy memo) and the business elite and ‘free time’ by the right-wing media, the Right has organized a majority of the upper middle class students from the private universities, backed by the Catholic Church hierarchy, large swaths of the affluent middle class neighborhoods, entire sectors of the commercial, real estate and financial middle classes and apparently sectors of the military, especially officials in the National Guard. While the Right has control over the major private media, public television and radio back the constitutional reforms. While the Right has its followers among some generals and the National Guard, Chavez has the backing of the paratroops and legions of middle-rank officers and most other generals.

Ibid.

[Goddess]

10 minutes ago, betsy said:

Indeed. 

But he cracks me up with his dramatic words..........I'm still laughing!

He is quite a drama queen, LOL

[betsy]

2 minutes ago, hot enough said:

You have as much trouble facing reality as Goddess, Betsy. The following describes US terrorism, how it always works, how it has always worked. Will you thrill to the further slaughter of innocents by the USA, just as you thrill to the past slaughter of innocents? There really isn't much greater evil than that. 

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The Opposition

With strong financial backing from the US Embassy ($8 million dollars in propaganda alone according to the Embassy memo) and the business elite and ‘free time’ by the right-wing media, the Right has organized a majority of the upper middle class students from the private universities, backed by the Catholic Church hierarchy, large swaths of the affluent middle class neighborhoods, entire sectors of the commercial, real estate and financial middle classes and apparently sectors of the military, especially officials in the National Guard. While the Right has control over the major private media, public television and radio back the constitutional reforms. While the Right has its followers among some generals and the National Guard, Chavez has the backing of the paratroops and legions of middle-rank officers and most other generals.

Ibid.

 

The only innocents being slaughtered are those who are getting killed by terrorists everywhere all over the world. And, by despots..............in places that hasn't known democracy similar to the western world.

Edited August 11, 2017 by betsy

[hot enough]

13 minutes ago, betsy said:

The only innocents being slaughtered are those who are getting killed by terrorists, and despots.  And they mostly happen in places that hasn't known democracy.

That's largely correct. A million in Indonesia by the USA supported military. Three million slaughtered by the US in Vietnam, generations left with the legacy of US Agent Orange. A million in Cambodia by direct US carpet bombing, then two million by the US caused PolPot and the Khmer Rouge. A million in Laos caused by the USA. Three million in Korea, again by US saturation bombing, aimed at civilians; now that's really saving the oppressed. 

The list goes on and on, Betsy, to the tune of tens of millions by the loving caring Americans who never care how many they slaughter. The US never does democracy. It's too easy for people not to like the US raping and pillaging their lands. Democracy simply does not work for the US, just as it never worked for the UK, France, ... . 

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[hot enough]

15 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

The only innocents being slaughtered are those who are getting killed by terrorists, and despots.  And they mostly happen in places that hasn't known democracy.

You have completely ignored the fact that the US is committing terrorist acts against Venezuela, just as it has committed terrorist acts against Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, ... . 

[betsy]

18 minutes ago, hot enough said:

You have completely ignored the fact that the US is committing terrorist acts against Venezuela, just as it has committed terrorist acts against Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, ... . 

 

What do Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey....have in common?

MASS GRAVES!

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/14/libya-mass-grave_n_962395.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghan-grave-idUSISL20795520080412

 

 

 

Edited August 11, 2017 by betsy

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, betsy said:

What do Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey....have in common?

The first three have US terrorism being committed against them by the USA, a country which has a long record of committing atrocities and blaming it on others. When the US starts the terror going and funds various groups to perform these terrorist acts, this is what happens.

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One of the worst atrocities was perpetrated by the South Korean police at the small city of Tae Jun. They executed 7,000 political prisoners while Central Intelligence Agency and U.S. military officials looked on, Cumings said. To compound the crime, the Pentagon blamed the atrocity on the Communists, Cumings said. “The Joint Chiefs of Staff classified the photographs of it because they make it clear who’s doing it, and they don’t let the photographs out until 1999 when a Korean finally got them declassified.” To top that off, the historian says, “the Pentagon did a video movie called ‘Crime of Korea’ where you see shots of pits that go on for like a football field, pit after pit of dead people, and (actor) Humphrey Bogart in a voice-over says, ‘someday the Communists will pay for this, someday we’ll get the full totals and believe me we’ll get the exact, accurate totals of the people murdered here and we will make these war criminals pay.’ Now this is a complete reversal of black and white, done as a matter of [US] policy.” 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-korean-war-the-unknown-war-the-coverup-of-us-war-crimes/23742

 

[hot enough]

16 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

What do Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey....have in common?

MASS GRAVES!

 

Talk about drama, Betsy. Are you a Christian? You certainly are a stunning hypocrite!

[cannuck]

The USA is causing the grief in Venezuela??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoke with our associates who just returned from DC.  There will be no sanctions for the time being.   While Chavez stole the business of Americans (and Venezuelans) by the BILLION$$ to fund the Bolivarian Revolution, the US not only allowed PDVSA (Venezuela's state owned oil company) to continue to own and operate 100% of Citgo, ripping billions a year out of the US to pay for even more of the Bolivarian Revolution, but it continued to allow US companies to buy Venezuelan crude - that continues to fund the Bolivarian Revolution.

So, I guess I have to agree with Hot Enough, the USA is indeed behind the troubles of Vietnam - as it has largely funded Chavez and Maduro (since 95% of all Venezuela export is petro).