Compensating Khadr

Hydraboss · July 19, 2017

1. So this criminal makes IEDs to use against Canadians and Americans.

2. Then this criminal gets caught fighting for the wrong side and gets sent to Gitmo.

3. Then this criminal's "rights" are violated and he gets a $10mil payout.

4. Next.......Canada needs to take back the money as it is "proceeds of crime" - see point #1.

Omni · July 19, 2017

4 minutes ago, capricorn said:

managed to repatriate Khadr in 2012.

Managed to? that's a complete deflection. Harper fought it every step of the way. It happened on his watch only because the SCC said so.

Edited July 19, 2017 by Omni

eyeball · July 19, 2017

19 minutes ago, capricorn said:

Hey, Van Winkle, you must have been in a deep sleep when these events were taking place.

Some remedial history lessons are in order Rip.

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From August 2003 to December 2014, NATO led the UN-mandated International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), which conducted security operations and helped build up the Afghan security forces.

ISAF is NATO’s longest and most challenging mission to date: at its height, the force was more than 130,000 strong with troops from 51 NATO and partner nations.

Yes the UN is the convenient go to place to justify our actions...until the same UN points out to us our actions are in violation of a child-soldiers rights. Then the UN is just another rabid nest of terrorist apologizing sympathisers.

I'd say you're long overdue for a remedial course in basic ethics.

Omni · July 19, 2017

8 minutes ago, Hydraboss said:

1. So this criminal makes IEDs to use against Canadians and Americans.

2. Then this criminal gets caught fighting for the wrong side and gets sent to Gitmo.

3. Then this criminal's "rights" are violated and he gets a $10mil payout.

4. Next.......Canada needs to take back the money as it is "proceeds of crime" - see point #1.

Too bad we violated his rights so wouldn't have had to pay. See point #3.

hot enough · July 19, 2017

23 minutes ago, Omni said:

Harper fought it every step of the way

What prison is he in now?

bush_cheney2004 · July 19, 2017

5 minutes ago, Omni said:

Too bad we violated his rights so wouldn't have had to pay. See point #3.

Canada has violated the rights of many other Canadians too....like "aboriginals" in residential schools....even killed thousands....but none received $10.5 million dollars in individual settlements. Why do terrorists get such a big pay day ?

capricorn · July 19, 2017

16 minutes ago, Omni said:

Managed to? that's a complete deflection. Harper fought it every step of the way. It happened on his watch only because the SCC said so.

Not factual.

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Khadr repatriation overturned by top court

The Supreme Court of Canada has overturned lower-court orders that the federal government must try to repatriate Toronto-born Omar Khadr from the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay.

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However, it concluded that ordering the government to ask the U.S. for Khadr's repatriation to stop the continuing violation of his rights would interfere with the government's jurisdiction over foreign relations. Therefore, it chose not to issue the order, even though it had the authority to do so

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/khadr-repatriation-overturned-by-top-court-1.893059

Omni · July 19, 2017

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Canada has violated the rights of many other Canadians too....like "aboriginals" in residential schools....even killed thousands....but none received $10.5 million dollars in individual settlements. Why do terrorists get such a big pay day ?

Don't talk to me about violating the rights of aboriginals. As an American you are already an expert.

bush_cheney2004 · July 19, 2017

Just now, Omni said:

Don't talk to me about violating the rights of aboriginals. As an American you are already an expert.

Are First Nations' rights and lives worth less than those of terrorists' in Canada, or is this just a Trudeau thing ?

Why does Trudeau hold terrorists in such high regard ?

Omni · July 19, 2017

5 minutes ago, capricorn said:

Not factual.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/khadr-repatriation-overturned-by-top-court-1.893059

Read your own post.

However, the top court agreed Canadian officials violated Khadr's human rights, and that he continues to be threatened by the effect of those violations.

In a unanimous decision released Friday, the court declared that Canadian officials breached Khadr's right to life, liberty and security of the person under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Omni · July 19, 2017

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Are First Nations' rights and lives worth less than those of terrorists' in Canada, or is this just a Trudeau thing ?

Why does Trudeau hold terrorists in such high regard ?

Why did your namesake hold illegal prisons and kangaroo courts in such high regard?

bush_cheney2004 · July 19, 2017

Just now, Omni said:

Why did your namesake hold illegal prisons and kangaroo courts in such high regard?

Because using Canadian standards, 'Gitmo was a lot better than residential schools for "aboriginals".

capricorn · July 19, 2017

3 minutes ago, Omni said:

Read your own post.

However, the top court agreed Canadian officials violated Khadr's human rights, and that he continues to be threatened by the effect of those violations.

In a unanimous decision released Friday, the court declared that Canadian officials breached Khadr's right to life, liberty and security of the person under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

You erred when you said the Supreme Court ordered Harper to repatriate Khadr. In fact, the court ruled in the opposite. Suck it up.

Omni · July 19, 2017

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Because using Canadian standards, 'Gitmo was a lot better than residential schools for "aboriginals".

You were at Gitmo then I guess eh?

bush_cheney2004 · July 19, 2017

Just now, Omni said:

You were at Gitmo then I guess eh?

Not yet, but then I am not a terrorist like Omar Khadr.

Omni · July 19, 2017

5 minutes ago, capricorn said:

You erred when you said the Supreme Court ordered Harper to repatriate Khadr. In fact, the court ruled in the opposite. Suck it up.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harper-unapologetic-about-governments-efforts-to-keep-khadr-in-prison/article24334556/

The Conservative government fought hard to keep Mr. Khadr behind bars, first refusing to advocate for his repatriation and later appealing a lower court decision to grant him bail. Earlier this month, the government argued that Mr. Khadr’s release would damage Canada’s relationship with the United States because he was sent back to complete his prison term.

Omni · July 19, 2017

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Not yet, but then I am not a terrorist like Omar Khadr.

So you really don't know what you're talking about.

bush_cheney2004 · July 19, 2017

5 minutes ago, Omni said:

So you really don't know what you're talking about.

Sure I do...by any objective measure, Canada has provided a Khadr settlement that is at least two orders of magnitude greater than average residential schools settlements, even for "aboriginals" who DIED.

WTF ? Are the rights of one terrorist and war criminal worth far more than those of "aboriginals" (who did nothing wrong) in Canada?

Wait...I already know the answer to that question.

Edited July 19, 2017 by bush_cheney2004

Omni · July 19, 2017

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Wait...I already know the answer to that question.

Well then take your little answer to your little question and move on and stop trying to conflate issues.

hot enough · July 19, 2017

8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Sure I do...by any objective measure, Canada has provided a Khadr settlement that is at least two orders of magnitude greater than average residential schools settlements, even for "aboriginals" who DIED.

Oh boy, another Miss Empathy raises her head. What were the settlements for Native Americans who were subjected to two plus centuries of genocide by you sweet, loving Yanks?

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WTF ? Are the rights of one terrorist and war criminal worth far more than those of "aboriginals" in Canada?

We have to measure that against the myriad war criminals/terrorists that collect US pensions, collect millions on the US speaking circuit - Americans love to rub elbows with their war criminals, baby killers, terrorists, rapists, ... .

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Wait...I already know the answer to that question.

That would be a first!

capricorn · July 19, 2017

5 minutes ago, Omni said:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harper-unapologetic-about-governments-efforts-to-keep-khadr-in-prison/article24334556/

The Conservative government fought hard to keep blah blah

And you accuse me of deflecting. :lol: You can't turn the tables. You made a flagrant mistake now you wear it.

hot enough · July 19, 2017

20 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Not yet, but then I am not a terrorist like Omar Khadr.

You've never answered whether you took part in any of the successive war crimes, terrorist actions of the USA since WWII. You support terrorists, war criminals, rapists, baby killers, ... in as enthusiastic a fashion as a Nazi death camp guard, so that makes you a terrorist.

bush_cheney2004 · July 19, 2017

4 minutes ago, Omni said:

Well then take your little answer to your little question and move on and stop trying to conflate issues.

No way...just another angle to demonstrate just how much of a moron your PM and "kangaroo courts" are.

For these Bozos, the rights of a war criminal terrorist are worth far more than the rights (and lives) of "aboriginals" who committed no crimes at all.

In Canada...how do you say...."bad optics" !

Edited July 19, 2017 by bush_cheney2004

capricorn · July 19, 2017

1 minute ago, hot enough said:

You've never answered whether you took part in any of the successive war crimes, terrorist actions of the USA since WWII. You support terrorists, war criminals, rapists, baby killers, ... in as enthusiastic a fashion as a Nazi death camp guard, so that makes you a terrorist.

Do you know just one person who is not a war criminal, rapist, baby killer or terrorist, other than you that is.

Omni · July 19, 2017

2 minutes ago, capricorn said:

And you accuse me of deflecting

10 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

No way...just another angle to demonstrate just how much of a moron your PM and "kangaroo courts" are.

For these Bozos, the rights of a war criminal terrorist are worth far more than the rights (and lives) of "aboriginals" who committed no crimes at all.

In Canada...how do you say...."bad optics" !

Your namesake opened and ran an illegal prison and an illegal "court" for many years, and now you are simply trying to deflect. But guess what, it ain't working.