hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Wow, it looks like they are doing okay! Who knew? Good for Canada, anyway. What can we talk about now? herples suggested a few things. Having a largely lying, ignorant populace, that operates on memes, dishonesty and clear avoidance of their promises, what hope is there? You can't expect greedy, grasping purveyors of genocide to fix the problem they have caused. Quote
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, hot enough said: herples suggested a few things. Having a largely lying, ignorant populace, that operates on memes, dishonesty and clear avoidance of their promises, what hope is there? You can't expect greedy, grasping purveyors of genocide to fix the problem they have caused. I would certainly be for abolishing the Indian Act, never mind amending it, and giving them total control over their lives, not just more control. I would also provide a moving allowance for anyone who wanted to get off the reserve and actually get on with their lives. I would encourage the total assimilation of all FN into Canadian Society as a whole and seek to abolish the Conce Reserves within a couple of generations. I would encourage them to stop being a circus act for doe eyed liberals. Edited July 3, 2017 by bcsapper Quote
herples Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I would certainly be for abolishing the Indian Act, never mind amending it, and giving them total control over their lives, not just more control. I would also provide a moving allowance for anyone who wanted to get off the reserve and actually get on with their lives. I would encourage the total assimilation of all FN into Canadian Society as a whole and seek to abolish the Conce Reserves within a couple of generations. I would encourage them to stop being a circus act for doe eyed liberals. The problem with abolishing the Indian act is that it would remove government responsibility and special recognition of First Nations. It would be the same as the White Paper Trudeau sr. and Chretien presented. It would be better to amend the Indian act to give first nations more control over their own services such as education and health. Quote
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 25 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I would certainly be for abolishing the Indian Act, As I said, You can't expect greedy, grasping purveyors of genocide to fix the problem they have caused. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 28 minutes ago, herples said: Or Canada amends the indian act to allow First Nations to have more control over their lives rather than it being dictated by the government. Increase funding so reserves can actually afford the proper services to help their people. How much more? $1million per reserve...2 maybe 3, what number would make your conscience feel better? The band chiefs and council don't use the money they get (and don't keep records) as is now. When chiefs and councils say "more control", what they mean is more money and less accountability. This just gets us all back to square one...rinse and repeat. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, herples said: The problem with abolishing the Indian act is that it would remove government responsibility and special recognition of First Nations. It would be the same as the White Paper Trudeau sr. and Chretien presented. It would be better to amend the Indian act to give first nations more control over their own services such as education and health. I don't agree. Such would help to maintain their position as separate. I am for complete assimilation. They should have access to and use the same education and health services as I use. Quote
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, hot enough said: As I said, You can't expect greedy, grasping purveyors of genocide to fix the problem they have caused. I can hope, hot enough. I can hope. Edited July 3, 2017 by bcsapper Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 Just now, bcsapper said: I can hope, hot enough, I can hope. Do the "aboriginals" have a "White Canadians Act" ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hal 9000 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, herples said: The problem with abolishing the Indian act is that it would remove government responsibility and special recognition of First Nations. It would be the same as the White Paper Trudeau sr. and Chretien presented. It would be better to amend the Indian act to give first nations more control over their own services such as education and health. What I took away from the video supplied by HE, is that these kids are woefully ill-prepared to live in society, let alone keep up with the academics they are faced with. These kids are being sent from a an extremely dysfunctional society and expected to keep up....no chance, it's just a setup for more failure. More money can't/won't change that. Health....C'mon, there is no way that they can be given proper - or even adequate health care living on a fly away reserve - that isn't possible. And, don't even bother with the mental health, substance abuse and councelling - it's just not possible. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, bcsapper said: They should have access to and use the same education and health services as I use. Then why aren't you petitioning the government to supply those same education and health services to them where they live, where they choose and want to live. First Nations health and education is perpetually underfunded. Quote
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: What I took away from the video supplied by HE, is that these kids are woefully ill-prepared to live in society, let alone keep up with the academics they are faced with. These kids are being sent from a an extremely dysfunctional society and expected to keep up....no chance, it's just a setup for more failure. More money can't/won't change that. Health....C'mon, there is no way that they can be given proper - or even adequate health care living on a fly away reserve - that isn't possible. And, don't even bother with the mental health, substance abuse and councelling - it's just not possible. Not at all surprising. Coming to a racist society, young teens far away from their friends and relatives/families. Let's do the study. Send the Hal 9000 families to live in the same genocide, separate the kids from the adults and see how you turn out. Quote
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 24 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I can hope, hot enough. I can hope. Hope has done sweet phuck all since the genocide started. Quote
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 17 minutes ago, hot enough said: Hope has done sweet phuck all since the genocide started. Still, I can hope that one day the native people of Canada will be allowed to join the rest of us as fully functional members of Canadian society instead of being forced to live in a substance induced stupor for the benefit of misguided liberals and corrupt leaders. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 17 minutes ago, hot enough said: Not at all surprising. Coming to a racist society, young teens far away from their friends and relatives/families. Let's do the study. Send the Hal 9000 families to live in the same genocide, separate the kids from the adults and see how you turn out. If the parents lived in a proper society, the problem that you're demonstrating would be solved. But, you unwittingly make the point, Yes, I'm sure if I moved to a reserve and had a few children, they'd likely end up poorly educated, with poor health and unable to integrate into society too. That speaks to the sickness and dysfunction of the reserve society. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 25 minutes ago, hot enough said: Then why aren't you petitioning the government to supply those same education and health services to them where they live, where they choose and want to live. First Nations health and education is perpetually underfunded. Because it would make no difference to glue sniffing suicide candidates. I'd rather move them to somewhere decent first. They don't choose to live there. What a patronising, racist attitude to have. Quote
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: If the parents lived in a proper society, the problem that you're demonstrating would be solved. But, you unwittingly make the point, Yes, I'm sure if I moved to a reserve and had a few children, they'd likely end up poorly educated, with poor health and unable to integrate into society too. That speaks to the sickness and dysfunction of the reserve society. No, that speaks to the multi-generational Canadian genocide. You act like Canadian urban society is some heaven on earth. I wasn't talking about you moving to a reserve. I was talking about the Hal9000s becoming the victims of a test genocide. Just to see how well you all fare. Quote
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Because it would make no difference to glue sniffing suicide candidates. I'd rather move them to somewhere decent first. They don't choose to live there. What a patronising, racist attitude to have. They most certainly do choose to live there. Another ignorant statement. Quote Conditions on Reserve Views about quality of life are relatively positive. Nearly six in ten rate their current quality of life1 as good; and these results are fairly stable since 2005. Most First Nations people living on-reserve also feel that their quality of life is better or equal to that of other Canadians. Looking ahead, First Nations people living on-reserve are also highly optimistic about the potential for their quality of life to improve; as over six in ten reported that they believe their quality of life will get better in the next 12 months. When asked about the more positive aspects of inhabiting a First Nations reserve, family and friends, Aboriginal-culture/language and community/treaty rights are cited at the top of the list. This is followed closely by living in a small community which allows for ease in getting around, the rural aspect of being close to nature and the reserve being tax free as positive aspects. Although respondents rated their general quality of life fairly highly, the picture painted of the conditions on-reserve is far less positive. The only exception is the positive assessment of the emotional support from family and friends (which is rated highly by two-thirds). The lowest ratings were provided for the amount of housing available and the amount and quality of jobs in and around First Nations with fewer than one in five residents providing a positive rating of these. Across fourteen aspects of communities rated (e.g., linked to education, health, drinking water, public facilities, opportunities to participate in language and culture), six are rated negatively more often than positively by respondents. http://www.ekospolitics.com/articles/AP2006.pdf Quote
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 Just now, hot enough said: They most certainly do choose to live there. Another ignorant statement. No, they don't. You can shove your survey. It's another example of the patronising, racist liberal attitude to FN, who should be a certain way and they damn well will be a certain way! The suicides speak otherwise. Quote
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, bcsapper said: No, they don't. You can shove your survey. It's another example of the patronising, racist liberal attitude to FN, who should be a certain way and they damn well will be a certain way! The suicides speak otherwise. More ignorance. They are free to come and go as they please. It's when they get to the cities that they encounter the racism, mostly from folks of a conservative bent. Something that has been amply illustrated by the discussions that go on all across Canuckland. The suicides speak to just how racist Canada is. Had Canada, as a people just owned up to their genocide, instead of the dismal song and dance routine that was the T&R hearings, if Canadians showed that they had some compassion, if Canadians stepped up and said fund them as you have promised, there would be a lot fewer suicides. Note that suicides are a fairly common thing for teens that haven't been subjected to 150 years of genocide. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 19 minutes ago, hot enough said: No, that speaks to the multi-generational Canadian genocide. You act like Canadian urban society is some heaven on earth. I wasn't talking about you moving to a reserve. I was talking about the Hal9000s becoming the victims of a test genocide. Just to see how well you all fare. Can you explain how this "test genocide" would look? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
taxme Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 15 hours ago, hot enough said: Yup, "keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer". A person has to be a complete fool to pretend that anyone but white men, in a macro sense, have preyed on dark skinned people. The US and Canada both had policies of genocide in place to deal with Aboriginals. Hitler was so enamored by the US system that he modeled his Jewish Final Solution on the US genocide. There is a real genocide going on today in all the Caucasian western countries in the world. All those countries are flooding themselves with non-Caucasians by the hundreds of thousands, and if this trendis allowed to continue, a white genocide will happen. Canada brings in approx. 85% of it's new immigrants from mainly non-Caucasian countries every year, and this has been going on ever since papa trudeau changed our immigration policy back in the 80's in favor of more nonwhites to enter Canada. Plus with thousands that are coming here illegally from America, Caucasians are in deep trouble. China has a policy of trying to eliminate Tibetans. Blacks in Haiti pretty much massacred all the whites that lived there. Blacks in South Africa and Rhodesia have been murdering whites for decades now ever since apartheid was abolished. Hitler had no policy on any final Jewish solution at all. That was all just zionist bull crap. Quote
Argus Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, herples said: Or Canada amends the indian act to allow First Nations to have more control over their lives rather than it being dictated by the government. Increase funding so reserves can actually afford the proper services to help their people. The idea is not to give them more welfare. The idea is to wean them off welfare. Most of these isolated reserves will never and can never be anything like economically self-sustaining. There is no work there for the people because the reserves, unlike towns and cities, did not spring up naturally in response to some need for people nearby (ie, farming communities, mining communities, lumber communities, communities along river transport corridors, fishing communities, etc.) Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
taxme Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 15 hours ago, hot enough said: Amazing the phony excuses people will make up to try to justify genocide. Had Hitler not done the Holocaust, someone else would have. Exactly what kind of holocaust are you talking about? What was Hitler trying to do? Quote
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 15 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Can you explain how this "test genocide" would look? Oh for phucks sakes, Hal! Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, hot enough said: Oh for phucks sakes, Hal! Serious question, what is "test genocide" to you? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
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