hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 8 hours ago, Hal 9000 said: That video even suggests that those kids are given govenment money "suggests", and you are, oh so typically, ready to make the craziest speculation as if it has any basis in fact. The genocide goes on, playing soft and low. Quote
Argus Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Posted July 3, 2017 19 hours ago, herples said: Doesn't matter stick to the topic at hand which is the Native complaints about Canada. History of Canada involves mostly the British which I am talking about not everyone else. You're the one who brought up the bit about the British being nasty to anyone not their culture. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Posted July 3, 2017 10 hours ago, jacee said: If you have evidence of that, what are you doing about it? Trying to persuade the government to close the reserves. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Argus said: Trying to persuade the government to close the reserves. Now there's a laugh and a half! Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 8 hours ago, jacee said: "We"? I haven't seen any of that. Have you? Which FN? Or are you just making it up? Speculating? ...and this is why neither you, me nor the government does anything about it. The beat goes on. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
capricorn Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 34 minutes ago, hot enough said: Now there's a laugh and a half! For once I agree with you. Band chiefs and councils would fight closing reserves every step of the way. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, capricorn said: For once I agree with you. Band chiefs and councils would fight closing reserves every step of the way. That would make it one time you have been right. So would all sensible and compassionate Canadians, capricorn, who know that a new genocide can't possibly solve the old one. Thinking Canadians, adults, know that one takes responsibility for their actions. It's a conservative mantra, until the conservatives get caught. Quote
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, hot enough said: That would make it one time you have been right. So would all sensible and compassionate Canadians, capricorn, who know that a new genocide can't possibly solve the old one. Thinking Canadians, adults, know that one takes responsibility for their actions. It's a conservative mantra, until the conservatives get caught. What absolute twaddle. Reserves are simply more benign concentration camps. They might have seemed like a good idea 200 years ago, instead of genocide, but now they are an abomination. A racist, corrupt abomination, at that. Edited July 3, 2017 by bcsapper Quote
capricorn Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, hot enough said: That would make it one time you have been right. Of course I'm right. Band chiefs and councils know which side their bread is buttered. Why kill the golden goose just to give their people a shot at prosperity? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 10 hours ago, jacee said: Nobody said that. Well, I don't have their names and addresses, but in my 33 years of living here I have many times heard the notion that Natives are somehow different from the rest of us. More spiritual, Stewards of the Land, etc. From both individuals and organizations. It's all bollocks. They are just the same as the rest of us. They just don't get the same opportunities due to the aforementioned notion. I feel so sorry for a kid born into some 500 strong reserve on the Arctic Circle somewhere. A lifetime of looking at the world on your electronic plaything while some Elder tries to show you how to bait a bone hook. No wonder they despair. Quote
herples Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Argus said: You're the one who brought up the bit about the British being nasty to anyone not their culture. In response to the invasion of Ireland by the English, I chose British since it would include the Welsh and Scots also. Quote
Argus Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Posted July 3, 2017 Most reserves are under 1,000 people. We should start by persuading those in the most isolated places to leave by providing housing - together - for them near an urban center where they could find educational and job opportunities. One thousand people is a small housing project. For example, the one I'm in has grass and trees on three sides, and is off a main road. There are a few hundred houses here. Why not locate a native band in a similar situation as a trial run? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 27 minutes ago, capricorn said: Of course I'm right. Band chiefs and councils know which side their bread is buttered. Why kill the golden goose just to give their people a shot at prosperity? You actually are wrong, but I have noticed that you have a strong predisposition to repeating memes and following incredibly illogical ideas and movements. Quote
capricorn Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, hot enough said: a strong predisposition to repeating memes and following incredibly illogical ideas and movements. Well what do you know, there is one such member here on MLW that fits that description to a tee. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 33 minutes ago, bcsapper said: What absolute twaddle. Reserves are simply more benign concentration camps. They might have seemed like a good idea 200 years ago, instead of genocide, but now they are an abomination. A racist, corrupt abomination, at that. Twaddle and ignorance are your game, bcsapper. People who support vicious war criminals, the biggest terrorists in the world ought not to be offering advise about how to rectify genocide. Get on the federal and provincial governments to stop their forked tongues and do what has always been promised. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, hot enough said: You actually are wrong, but I have noticed that you have a strong predisposition to repeating memes and following incredibly illogical ideas and movements. No, Capricorn is right, so is Bcsapper. These reserves are presented as some sort of free spirited commune and the FN's at some point in time - generations ago, might have been that way, however, as human nature goes, money has changed all that and just as Bcsapper has said, reserves more closely resemble concentration camps. And the more people that stay, the more babies that are born, means more money for the Chiefs and band council. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, Argus said: We should start by persuading those in the most isolated places to leave by providing housing - together - for them near an urban center where they could find educational and job opportunities. You do realize there are people of all races who abhor your cities, who would not go near them with a barge pole. Who wants to live the life of a closed minded, beer swilling, TV watching, brain deadened city dweller. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, hot enough said: Twaddle and ignorance are your game, bcsapper. People who support vicious war criminals, the biggest terrorists in the world ought not to be offering advise about how to rectify genocide. Get on the federal and provincial governments to stop their forked tongues and do what has always been promised. So, nanothermite is out, the word of the month is now "genocide"? 1 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, hot enough said: Twaddle and ignorance are your game, bcsapper. People who support vicious war criminals, the biggest terrorists in the world ought not to be offering advise about how to rectify genocide. Get on the federal and provincial governments to stop their forked tongues and do what has always been promised. You use an awful lot of words to not actually say anything. Quote
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: No, Capricorn is right, so is Bcsapper. These reserves are presented as some sort of free spirited commune and the FN's at some point in time - generations ago, might have been that way, however, as human nature goes, money has changed all that and just as Bcsapper has said, reserves more closely resemble concentration camps. And the more people that stay, the more babies that are born, means more money for the Chiefs and band council. Ignorance abounds among the meme spouters. FIRST NATIONS PEOPLE LIVING ON-RESERVE http://www.ekospolitics.com/articles/AP2006.pdf Quote
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: So, nanothermite is out, the word of the month is now "genocide"? Why do you go to such lengths, Hal, to illustrate your ignorance? Nanothermite, and its use on 911, is as real as the Canadian genocide against First Nations. Look at the legal definition for dog's sakes. It could well have been written exclusively for Canada. Edited July 3, 2017 by hot enough Quote
hot enough Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 If Canada has the balls, the honesty to stand up and admit what they have done to First Nations peoples, then things will go much much better. Success Stories - Aboriginal Peoples & Communities Look and listen to these short videos featuring the success of First Nations, Inuit, Métis and Northern communities. Whether it's about education, culture or governance, they all have the same goal – improving the quality of life of Aboriginal people across Canada. See other Aboriginal success stories from across Canada. https://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1306867400833/1306867695023 Quote
herples Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Argus said: Most reserves are under 1,000 people. We should start by persuading those in the most isolated places to leave by providing housing - together - for them near an urban center where they could find educational and job opportunities. One thousand people is a small housing project. For example, the one I'm in has grass and trees on three sides, and is off a main road. There are a few hundred houses here. Why not locate a native band in a similar situation as a trial run? Or Canada amends the indian act to allow First Nations to have more control over their lives rather than it being dictated by the government. Increase funding so reserves can actually afford the proper services to help their people. Edited July 3, 2017 by herples Quote
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, hot enough said: If Canada has the balls, the honesty to stand up and admit what they have done to First Nations peoples, then things will go much much better. Success Stories - Aboriginal Peoples & Communities Look and listen to these short videos featuring the success of First Nations, Inuit, Métis and Northern communities. Whether it's about education, culture or governance, they all have the same goal – improving the quality of life of Aboriginal people across Canada. See other Aboriginal success stories from across Canada. https://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1306867400833/1306867695023 Wow, it looks like they are doing okay! Who knew? Good for Canada, anyway. What can we talk about now? Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 Just now, bcsapper said: Wow, it looks like they are doing okay! Who knew? Good for Canada, anyway. What can we talk about now? Not genocide...obviously! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
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