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Posted
7 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

Do you honestly think North America was gonna remain unsettled?  If it wasn't the British, it woulda been the Spanish, French, Vikings, Russians, Mexicans...whoever.  It was always gonna happen.

Amazing the phony excuses people will make up to try to justify genocide. 

Had Hitler not done the Holocaust, someone else would have. 

Posted
11 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Rubbish. If I was a native kid with an Ithing slowly finding out what the world is like from some mosquito ridden hell hole I have no hope of escaping I might consider offing myself too.

But you keep them there if it makes you feel good. Bloody disgusting, I find it. 

Hell holes created by the government of Canada with the aid of "citizens" like you.

Posted

First Nations people are 200 years away from being cavemen - sorry to say.  The Europeans were always gonna take over - that's the way of the world.

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


Posted
2 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Hell holes created by the government of Canada with the aid of "citizens" like you.

So?  Why do you want them to remain there just to satisfy your silly liberal sensitivities?

Posted
9 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

First Nations people are 200 years away from being cavemen - sorry to say.  The Europeans were always gonna take over - that's the way of the world.

Still excusing genocide.

That's where death camp guards come from. 

Posted
Just now, hot enough said:

Still excusing genocide.

That's where death camp guards come from. 

I'm not excusing anything, i'm pointing to a natural progression in mankind.  The only thing unnatural is this idea that a society can cling to a past that was gone years ago.

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


Posted
Just now, hot enough said:

What a terribly ignorant assumption to make.

Yeah, you already said I was ignorant. Are you trying to pad your post count?

Posted
8 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

I'm not excusing anything, i'm pointing to a natural progression in mankind.  The only thing unnatural is this idea that a society can cling to a past that was gone years ago.

You are excusing a crime against humanity, for which politicians and Canadians should be held accountable.

Posted
Just now, hot enough said:

You are excusing a crime against humanity, for which politicians and Canadians should be held accountable.

Wouldn't they be dead now?  Should Merkel be held accountable for WWII?

Posted
9 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Yeah, you already said I was ignorant. Are you trying to pad your post count?

We agree then. Two separate incidents. The second was a terribly ignorant assumption for you to have drawn. 

Posted
1 minute ago, hot enough said:

You are excusing a crime against humanity, for which politicians and Canadians should be held accountable.

OK, so whats your solution?

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


Posted

The ones who should be held accountable are those stick to the ridiculous notion that natives should forced to remain in the 19th century, trapping martins and spearing seals.  Let them in, FFS!

Posted
1 minute ago, hot enough said:

Again, your ignorance shows.

There's another of those stunningly ignorant assumptions.

I have to say, it's a hell of an argument. Have you been watching the Oxford Debating Society?

Posted

Let me explain the current "genocide"; manipulating a group of people with money and false cultural expectations to live on a reserve 100-1000 miles from nowhere in butt fack nowhere Manitoba (or wherever the latest crisis may be), that has no education, no work, no sports (or entertainment), bad water, no food, riddled with drugs, alcohol, murder, rape, incest, suicide, FASD, poverty and teenage pregnancy.  All the while the chiefs and elders take all the money earmarked for the whole band.

That's the genocide that for some reason, liberals want to protect.

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


Posted (edited)

They are being failed alright. Sniffing glue to escape the horror of their lives. But they can't be allowed to move in next to me. They might be contaminated!

Bollocks to your accusations of ignorance. 

Edited by bcsapper
Posted
14 minutes ago, hot enough said:

The ignorance is stunning!

FULL STORY: Failing Canada’s First Nations Children

 

 

I don't know if this video makes the argument that you think it does.  Then again, you just keep saying "genocide" and calling people ignorant without putting forth a solution...or even an idea.

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


Posted
1 hour ago, Hal 9000 said:

Let me explain the current "genocide"; manipulating a group of people with money and false cultural expectations to live on a reserve 100-1000 miles from nowhere in butt fack nowhere Manitoba (or wherever the latest crisis may be), that has no education, no work, no sports (or entertainment), bad water, no food, riddled with drugs, alcohol, murder, rape, incest, suicide, FASD, poverty and teenage pregnancy.  All the while the chiefs and elders take all the money earmarked for the whole band.

That's the genocide that for some reason, liberals want to protect.

If you have evidence of that, what are you doing about it?

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, jacee said:

If you have evidence of that, what are you doing about it?

 

Well, the evidence is right there, all around us, it's in the preceeding video, it's in all the reserves - if you've ever been to one, it's obvious in the school system and in the foster system.  There is RCMP evidence that that over 70% of missing and murdered women and killed by other FN's and that over 65% are killed by people known or related to them. The evidence is all there, the problem is the dishonesty and politics that cover it up - or at least try to.

What am I doing?  Well, it's pretty tough to do anything when liberals refuse to acknowledge the problems, let alone actually address them.  I bet you're closer to calling me racist than use this info for some thought.  The minute somebody mentions shutting down reserves, the chiefs rally against the idea, why?  Because they are the primary abusers, they are getting all the money and for the most part they are king and the rest are serfs...Serfs!  They're not giving that up without a fight.  If I were in politics though, I'd sacrifice my political career and put an end to reserves.  Give every FN's person a buyout $100K...200K...whatever it took and begin assimilating them into the 21st century.  

 

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


Posted
1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

The ones who should be held accountable are those stick to the ridiculous notion that natives should forced to remain in the 19th century, trapping martins and spearing seals.  Let them in, FFS!

Nobody said that.

 

Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

Well, the evidence is right there, all around us, it's in the preceeding video, it's in all the reserves - if you've ever been to one, it's obvious in the school system and in the foster system.  There is RCMP evidence that that over 70% of missing and murdered women and killed by other FN's and that over 65% are killed by people known or related to them. The evidence is all there, the problem is the dishonesty and politics that cover it up - or at least try to.

What am I doing?  Well, it's pretty tough to do anything when liberals refuse to acknowledge the problems, let alone actually address them.  I bet you're closer to calling me racist than use this info for some thought.  The minute somebody mentions shutting down reserves, the chiefs rally against the idea, why?  Because they are the primary abusers, they are getting all the money and for the most part they are king and the rest are serfs...Serfs!  They're not giving that up without a fight.  If I were in politics though, I'd sacrifice my political career and put an end to reserves.  Give every FN's person a buyout $100K...200K...whatever it took and begin assimilating them into the 21st century.  

 

You are making serious allegations of fraud/theft against some?most?all? chiefs.

I asked what evidence you have of that?

And what are you doing about reporting it to appropriate authorities?

If you can't answer those questions, you should not be slandering people.

Edited by jacee
Posted
14 minutes ago, jacee said:

You are making serious allegations of fraud/theft against some?most?all? chiefs.

I asked what evidence you have of that?

 

How often do you hear about a reserve getting $millions for infrastructure or for home improvements only to go back 1,2 or however many years later to see that absolutely nothing has been done?  How many times have we seen the fight for Chiefs to manage their own bands money only to see it squandered with absolutely no paper trail?  That video even suggests that those kids are given govenment money, yet somehow have none and are living poor, where did that money go?  Easy, the band requests the money and it goes to the chiefs...or someone else - again no paper trail, no questions asked, so we give them more money and the pattern continues.  

Evidence?  Well the biggest piece of evidence is "where did the money go"?  Evidence can only be found if someone is looking, and no one dare look.  Just like the "missing women" investigation.  We may not know the exact person(s), but it's pretty obvious where to start looking.  

As for myself, I 'm not a police officer, I don't need to find a smoking gun.  The white man is guilty of nothing more than being complicit.

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Hal 9000 said:

How often do you hear about a reserve getting $millions for infrastructure or for home improvements only to go back 1,2 or however many years later to see that absolutely nothing has been done?  How many times have we seen the fight for Chiefs to manage their own bands money only to see it squandered with absolutely no paper trail?  That video even suggests that those kids are given govenment money, yet somehow have none and are living poor, where did that money go?  Easy, the band requests the money and it goes to the chiefs...or someone else - again no paper trail, no questions asked, so we give them more money and the pattern continues.  

Evidence?  Well the biggest piece of evidence is "where did the money go"?  Evidence can only be found if someone is looking, and no one dare look.  Just like the "missing women" investigation.  We may not know the exact person(s), but it's pretty obvious where to start looking.  

As for myself, I 'm not a police officer, I don't need to find a smoking gun.  The white man is guilty of nothing more than being complicit.

"We"?

I haven't seen any of that.

Have you?

Which FN?

Or are you just making it up?

Speculating?

Edited by jacee
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