bush_cheney2004 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Boges said: Dude it's pop culture. The second link I provided was from the UK. And I don't think this ad is actually helping Pepsi. Nevertheless, an American soft drink manufacturer is getting lots of publicity, good or bad....free! Literally....American pop culture ! Edited April 5, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Nevertheless, an American soft drink manufacturer is getting lots of publicity, good or bad....free! American pop culture ! It's LOL how you always take credit on this site for everything done in the US. I'm surprised your not taking credit that my favourites sports team is a Football team in South Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Boges said: Such as? Quote You sell carbonated sugar water! No one has a cooler of Pepsi at a Protest! Kendall Jenner has probably never had a Pepsi in her life. AND! if you're trying, for whatever reason, to appeal to the professional protestor crowd don't have your main character give the imposing policeman a Pepsi. This ad manages to annoy everyone. How many people get fired over this? Quote How about the common knowledge that celebrities often peddle things they don't ever intend on using. There you go again, Duuuude! Commie duuude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Just now, hot enough said: There you go again, Duuuude! Commie duuude! Please clarify how those are right wing talking points? You have an obvious Trump supporting American poster preaching free market here, essentially agreeing with your opinion. So I'm not sure this debate fits in the Red Team Blue Team narrative you're constantly looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Boges said: I wonder why they didn't use a Black model to give the cop a Pepsi. They didn't want to send conservatives into apoplexy. They didn't want to get conservatives' panties in a bigger twist than they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Boges said: It's LOL how you always take credit on this site for everything done in the US. I'm surprised your not taking credit that my favourites sports team is a Football team in South Florida. Dude, Canadians famously gorge themselves on American culture. Numerous Canadian authors have bemoaned as much long before my mocking posts. Oh dear...what will PepsiCo do...stand by their advertising strategy for young people compared to boomer dinosaurs that drink Coca-Cola, or relent under the withering attacks from social media brainiacs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Dude, Canadians famously gorge themselves on American culture. Numerous Canadian authors have bemoaned as much long before my mocking posts. Oh dear...what will PepsiCo do...stand by their advertising strategy for young people compared to boomer dinosaurs that drink Coca-Cola, or relent under the withering attacks from social media brainiacs ? You really think any young person really identifies with Soda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Canadians famously gorge themselves on American culture. Yeah right, American "culture" - football, baseball, brain dead car racing, crass nonsensical movies, war and war crimes propaganda, various and sundry filth, sort of like gorging on the culture of Sodom and Gomorrah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Just now, Boges said: You really think any young person really identifies with Soda? I'm sure some do...PepsiCo has spent millions presuming as much. Pepsi and Mountain Dew are marketed to a younger demographic...even in ....Canada. Soft drink sales are down, so advertising to the rescue ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Boges said: You really think any young person really identifies with Soda? ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I'm sure some do...PepsiCo has spent millions presuming as much. Pepsi and Mountain Dew are marketed to a younger demographic...even in ....Canada. Soft drink sales are down, so advertising to the rescue ! The irony of the other brands is no one really knows who owns what. So it really isn't about Pepsi v Coke regarding advertising. Ever order a Sprite at a restaurant and they ask if it's OK to have a 7-Up because they don't carry Sprite because of who sponsors their Soda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, hot enough said: ?????? One of your more thoughtful posts here. Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Boges said: The irony of the other brands is no one really knows who owns what. So it really isn't about Pepsi v Coke regarding advertising. Ever order a Sprite at a restaurant and they ask if it's OK to have a 7-Up because they don't carry Sprite because of who sponsors their Soda. No....old people like me are very familiar with which products are available from each bottling company. Cola...cherry cola...lemon lime...orange...etc. all have associated companies reinforced by...advertising. Edited April 5, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: No....old people like me are very familiar with which products are available from each bottling company. Cola...cherry cola...lemon line...orange...etc. all have associated companies reinforced by...advertising. And you're not being marketed to here. Who owns Fanta? Cuz I always order Fanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Just now, Boges said: And you're not being marketed to here. Who owns Fanta? Cuz I always order Fanta. Fanta is Coca-Cola...very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Crap, so I'm on team Coke. I'm sooooo Old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 LoL new Pepsi CEO was said "We will repeir image of Pepsi which is lost because of wrong ad policies." Pepsi should take some advertisement lessons from Coca Cola's Turkish Ceo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Boges said: Crap, so I'm on team Coke. I'm sooooo Old! That's right...if you are "old"...you are likely Team Coke. Diet Coke is much better than crappy Diet Pepsi. ...and Pepsi is too damn sweet for old people like me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, hot enough said: And Boges and DoP are offended. Telling isn't it? Just because you're always offended doesn't mean I am. Pepsi can make any commercial it likes. Coca Cola still apparently reads No Mohammad No Mecca if you hold your chin the correct way...as offended Muslims do...always the victim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 36 minutes ago, Boges said: Such as? How about the common knowledge that celebrities often peddle things they don't ever intend on using for the money. It's only especially galling when they peddle it with some sort of murky message about civil disobedience. I wonder why they didn't use a Black model to give the cop a Pepsi. Ah, I get it. You're offended because you disapprove of protesting and this ad does not reaffirm your disapproval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: That's right...if you are "old"...you are likely Team Coke. Diet Coke is much better than crappy Diet Pepsi. ...and Pepsi is too damn sweet for old people like me. Say Pepsi please...for those that think young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Ah, I get it. You're offended because you disapprove of protesting and this ad does not reaffirm your disapproval. Again I'm not offended. Pepsi can do what it wants. I won't boycott or write an outraged social media post. Just putting forward commentary about bad marketing. Or at least debating if it is or not. And if you search other people's commentary about this ad, the disapproval isn't coming from the Right. I guess because I come from the right side of the political spectrum, all my opinions come from that team. Which is hilariously simplistic. Sort of like this ad. Edited April 5, 2017 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Boges said: Again I'm not offended. Pepsi can do what it wants. I won't boycott or write a bad letter. You're not offended but you felt compelled to create a thread about how "tone deaf" the ad is, so I guess it must have triggered some reaction in you that is similar to offence. That reaction, I deduce, is derived from the fact that it depicts protesters without explicitly stating they do not condone such behaviour? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: You're not offended but you felt compelled to create a thread about how "tone deaf" the ad is, so I guess it must have triggered some reaction in you that is similar to offence. That reaction, I deduce, is derived from the fact that it depicts protesters without explicitly stating they do not condone such behaviour? Well it's in the news. I heard about it on 2 of the radio shows I listen to. It's not like I saw the ad on TV and felt compelled to start a thread. I saw the commentary about it and felt compelled to start a thread because I thought it was debatable. My opinion is that a big company trying to capitalize on something like civil disobedience is misguided. Not outrageous, just dumb. And completely transparent what they're trying to do. You even have the photographer with a Hijab who's outraged at something but is comforted by a millionaire model giving a cop a soda. Edited April 5, 2017 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Boges said: ...My opinion is that a big company trying to capitalize on something like civil disobedience is misguided. Not outrageous, just dumb. And completely transparent what they're trying to do. You even have the photographer with a Hijab who's outraged at something but is comforted by a millionaire model giving a cop a soda. That's fine, but many other advertisers were praised for going "social" for Super Bowl ads after Trump became president. Coca-Cola has one of the greatest television ads ever made based on giving someone a Coke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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