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[August1991]

This is absolutely hilarious.

Icelandic Website Takes an Interest Americans and Canadians

[Stoker]

I didn't see the Ann Coulter interview (since my cable provider does not yet carry Fox), but I did see Tucker Carlson "smackdown" Parrish.......it was quite funny

Even though I'm a Coulter fan, I have to admit that my initial reaction to her staments on Canada was one of anger, I chalk it up to my (socialist) public school education and the constent bombardment of false Canadian nationalism in my youth, on reflection though after playing her statments a second time, and taking them in with a subjective mind, I have to admit, she does have a point

[Newfie Canadian]

With all due respect Stoker, Coulter is the shining example of American conservative arrogance and ignorance that is turning a big chunk of the world against the US.

I think it's her that should be grateful that Canada is her neighbour instead of some Middle Eastern or Asian countries. If they did have those neighbours, I doubt they (conservative Americans like Coulter) would be so arrogant.

[Boondoggle]

Even though I'm a Coulter fan, I have to admit that my initial reaction to her staments on Canada was one of anger, I chalk it up to my (socialist) public school education and the constent bombardment of false Canadian nationalism in my youth, on reflection though after playing her statments a second time, and taking them in with a subjective mind, I have to admit, she does have a point.

You show your true -- American Wannabe -- colours.

Canada is the worlds biggest producer of uranium, has advanced technology, and builds its own nuclear reactors. If it wanted to, it could easily have nuclear weapons that could be built entirely in Canada, but chooses not to. The US wouldn't be able to "crush" a nuclear armed Canada as Coulter suggests.

Further, it took decades for the US to produce better fighter jets than the Avro Arrow, and if Canada had of continued its own program, it'd probably be ahead of the US today.

Also keep in mind that Canada's debt is about $500 billion vs. the US debt which is about to hit $8 trillion -- about 40% financed by other countries. Money is real power. They wouldn't have all their war toys without money to pay for them, and if other countries decided to dump US investments they'd be screwed.

Also, they have a hard time occupying small developing countries. Good luck trying to occupy one of the largest countries in the world.

However, Canada is a peaceful country, and acting like a bully is a job for the American right-wingers. Newfie Canadian is absolutely right in saying that they're lucky to have Canada as a neighbor. If they had a neighbor that was hostile with WMD or commiting terrorist attacks against them they'd be wishing they had a neighbor like Canada.

Look at all the tension around the world over the Iraq war. Can you imagine how the world would react if they attacked Canada? You think Britain would be part of a coalition to attack a Commonwealth country?

Ann Coulter has a permanent case of PMS. She bashed those that speak french and said she likes the english speaking Canadians. I'm an english speaking Canadian that respects the french far more than I respect her. She also bitched about Canada's position on Iraq and Vietnam, but left out WWI, WWII (Canada was involved from the start while it took the US a couple years and an attack to get involved), Korea, the Cold War, the Gulf War, Kosovo, Afghanistan, and almost every UN peacekeeping mission. While Canada was neutral for Vietnam, it did produce Napalm and Agent Orange for the US, which wasn't one of the finer moments in Canadian history.

[Stoker]

With all due respect Stoker, Coulter is the shining example of American conservative arrogance and ignorance that is turning a big chunk of the world against the US.

What affords her that arrogance and ignorance?

I think it's her that should be grateful that Canada is her neighbour instead of some Middle Eastern or Asian countries. If they did have those neighbours, I doubt they (conservative Americans like Coulter) would be so arrogant.

And we are not lucky that America is not some Middle Eastern or Asian country? With that said, of the two countries, who could likely deal with a "Middle Eastern or Asian country"?

You show your true -- American Wannabe -- colours

How does the quote go? Liberals don't have the monpoly on being Canadian.......

Canada is the worlds biggest producer of uranium, has advanced technology, and builds its own nuclear reactors. If it wanted to, it could easily have nuclear weapons that could be built entirely in Canada, but chooses not to. The US wouldn't be able to "crush" a nuclear armed Canada as Coulter suggests.

Yeah, but we don't have nuclear weapons......so your point is moot.

Further, it took decades for the US to produce better fighter jets than the Avro Arrow, and if Canada had of continued its own program, it'd probably be ahead of the US today.

Yeah, but we didn't mass produce the Arrow, so you point is moot.

Also keep in mind that Canada's debt is about $500 billion vs. the US debt which is about to hit $8 trillion -- about 40% financed by other countries. Money is real power. They wouldn't have all their war toys without money to pay for them, and if other countries decided to dump US investments they'd be screwed.

So you're saying that we could win a econmic war with the United States? Also, what do think our economy/social programs would look like, if we had to pay for our own defence?

Also, they have a hard time occupying small developing countries. Good luck trying to occupy one of the largest countries in the world.

Thats open to debate, whats the Iraqi death toll compared to the American? Besides, does the average Canadian have access to AK-47s, RPGs and plastic explosives?

However, Canada is a peaceful country, and acting like a bully is a job for the American right-wingers. Newfie Canadian is absolutely right in saying that they're lucky to have Canada as a neighbor. If they had a neighbor that was hostile with WMD or commiting terrorist attacks against them they'd be wishing they had a neighbor like Canada.

{see} my second point.

Look at all the tension around the world over the Iraq war. Can you imagine how the world would react if they attacked Canada? You think Britain would be part of a coalition to attack a Commonwealth country?

That doesn't mater, do you think there would be a coalition to oppose it?

Now both of you obviously have not yet got over the intail shock of being slapped in the face with the cold, dark truth. We need America, more than they need us.

[Black Dog]

I didn't see the Ann Coulter interview (since my cable provider does not yet carry Fox), but I did see Tucker Carlson "smackdown" Parrish.......it was quite funny.

Even though I'm a Coulter fan, I have to admit that my initial reaction to her staments on Canada was one of anger, I chalk it up to my (socialist) public school education and the constent bombardment of false Canadian nationalism in my youth, on reflection though after playing her statments a second time, and taking them in with a subjective mind, I have to admit, she does have a point

I have a hradtime believeing that bow-tied prick could "smack down" anyone.

What's more, anyone who actually things Ann Coulter is capable of having a point (other than the one on the top of her belached head) is delusional. Coulter's a clown, a carnival barker, not a serious thinker or journalist.

What affords her that arrogance and ignorance?

Her rich, white, priviledged elite upbringing?

[kimmy]

You show your true -- American Wannabe -- colours.

Canada is the worlds biggest producer of uranium, has advanced technology, and builds its own nuclear reactors. If it wanted to, it could easily have nuclear weapons that could be built entirely in Canada, but chooses not to. The US wouldn't be able to "crush" a nuclear armed Canada as Coulter suggests.

That's true. However, it's unlikely that the United States would have ever permitted Canada to develop the means to threaten them militarily.

Further, it took decades for the US to produce better fighter jets than the Avro Arrow, and if Canada had of continued its own program, it'd probably be ahead of the US today.

Now, this is just sheer nationalist bravado.

If you're interested in seeing what the American aviation industry was capable at the time, take a moment to bask in the majesty and beauty of the XB-70 Valkyrie!

-here: http://www.labiker.org/xb70.html

To put it in perspective, imagine a plane larger than most commercial jets, carrying a load of bombs as heavy as a B-52, and with a cruising speed faster than any jet-fighter in service today. That's the Valkyrie, and it was in the air, over 40 years ago.

Designed by the North American Aviation company in response to a military specification, the Valkyrie was like the Avro Arrow in the sense that it was way ahead of its time, but cancelled before it became operational. The Valkyrie still produced breakthroughs in aerodynamic research and manufacturing techniques that left a legacy. In fact, the surviving prototype was used as a testbed by NASA for years after the Valkyrie was cancelled by the military.

I think it's fiction to claim Canada's aviation industry was somehow far in advance of it's American counterpart; I also think many would dispute that it took the US 20 years to build a jet fighter equal to the Arrow. For instance, the F14 and F15, which are still among the world's best, were in the air just over a decade after the Arrow's test-flights.

Also it is worth pointing out that like the Avro Arrow, the US aviation industry also suffered cancellations as leadership envisioned the "missile age" replacing the "jet age" in the near future. One might claim the Avro Arrow would have been the world's best jet fighter if it hadn't been cancelled; one could equally claim that the North American F-108 Rapier would have supplanted the Arrow just a few years after: http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f108.html

Ann Coulter has a permanent case of PMS.

Ann Coulter is funny. Not in the way she thinks she's funny, though.

-kimmy

{reads about planes. }

[Newfie Canadian]

Now both of you obviously have not yet got over the intail shock of being slapped in the face with the cold, dark truth.

Nothing she said in those clips or anything I have ever heard from her has slapped me anywhere, let alone done the damage you're implying. And some of what she said hardly qualifies as anything other than complete garbage.

If you believe some of the stuff she says I got a great cod farm in the middle of Wood Buffalo to sell you.

We need America, more than they need us.

I am neither naive nor stupid enough to believe that we don't need the US in our current state of affairs and practices, nor have I implied or stated such.

I do believe that the relationship is more symbiotic than parasitic (on our part) than some Americans and many conservative commentators (I dare not say journalists) would have people believe.

What affords her that arrogance and ignorance?

A closed minded belief that all things conservative, not necessarily American, are the way things should be around the world, brought on by what Black Dog said (not to imply that all white, rich, privileged, elitists are arrogant. )

And we are not lucky that America is not some Middle Eastern or Asian country? With that said, of the two countries, who could likely deal with a "Middle Eastern or Asian country"?

Sure. Who here has said or implied , that Canada isn't lucky to have a democratic powerhouse next door?

But tell me, doesn't it ruffle your Canadian feathers just a little when this loud mouth twit says we should be lucky they allow us to be their neighbours?

[Stoker]

I have a hradtime believeing that bow-tied prick could "smack down" anyone.

He did to Parrish, what John Stewart did to him.

What's more, anyone who actually things Ann Coulter is capable of having a point (other than the one on the top of her belached head) is delusional. Coulter's a clown, a carnival barker, not a serious thinker or journalist.

Why is that? I assume that her opinion carries more then yours or mine for that mater.

Her rich, white, priviledged elite upbringing?

Would you consider a poor American (or Canadian) priviledged when compared to a poor Haitian? If so, why?

Nothing she said in those clips or anything I have ever heard from her has slapped me anywhere, let alone done the damage you're implying. And some of what she said hardly qualifies as anything other than complete garbage.

If you believe some of the stuff she says I got a great cod farm in the middle of Wood Buffalo to sell you.

and

I am neither naive nor stupid enough to believe that we don't need the US in our current state of affairs and practices, nor have I implied or stated such.

I do believe that the relationship is more symbiotic than parasitic (on our part) than some Americans and many conservative commentators (I dare not say journalists) would have people believe.

So the opinion of the Coulters and the Carlsons that Canada needs the United States more than they need us is garbage?

As for our relationship, I guess it requires one to define the "line" that seperates symbiotic from parasitic.......

But tell me, doesn't it ruffle your Canadian feathers just a little when this loud mouth twit says we should be lucky they allow us to be their neighbours?

At first, yes (as I said in my post above) but on further reflection no. If Canada was a equal or closer to an equal, then yes, I'd be pissed, but since our realtionship is one of a "symbiotic" or "parasitic" nature, I understand that she's right. Do I like that she's right, of course not, but i don't see how we can change it, so I choose to except it.

[Newfie Canadian]

So the opinion of the Coulters and the Carlsons that Canada needs the United States more than they need us is garbage?

The way they say it, yes.

To listen to the likes of Coulter, Carlson, O'Reilly and Gibson, Canada could not exist only for the US.

I think that's wrong and terribly simplistic.

And despite the enormous economyand military of the US, the US needs friendly neighbours, which it has in Canada.

As I said, Canada needs the US. The US needs Canada, as a supplier of certain commodities (water, electricity, etc).

The US relies on the help of Canada to secure it's borders, and Canada depends on the US.

The relationship is not Canada leeching off of the US like a parasite, it's more symbiotic in that each country gives and takes.

Seeing as how I'm ranting against Coulter et al, isn't it funny how they always bring up our military, but never mention the good that they do? Time after time they bring it up. Never have I heard them mention the great work done in Afghanistan or Haiti. I bet O'Reilly has his shorts in a knot over the announcement of JTF2 getting a Presidential citation. I've never heard Coulter saying how Canadian snipers were awaarded or considered for Bronze Stars in Afghanistan.

I wonder what she'll have to say about the SCOC decision today? Should be good for a laugh.

[Big Blue Machine]

Ann Coulter is a nutcase. Total idiot. I can't listen to her for 10 seconds without turning the TV off.

[caesar]

Now both of you obviously have not yet got over the intail shock of being slapped in the face with the cold, dark truth. We need America, more than they need us.

Only in your little closed American wannabee mind.

We have the resources; they have already squandered theirs. We have world and self respect; they have already squandered theirs.

Our national debt is shrinking; theirs is growing out of control.

[Shakeyhands]

I say Annes dick is bigger than that wuss Tuckers... What say you Right Wing Whackos?

I truely wish all of the Right Wing ( Albertans? ) on this site would pick up and leave. You can almost pick out where people on this forum are from.

Luckily, we Canadians (and I am very proud to be one) are so superior to the Americans, in every way mind.. that I find all opinions to the contrary moot!

MOOT MOOT MOOT!!

GO IRAQ!!!!

[I miss Reagan]

Fantastic! I loved every second of it. The best was watching Parrish bumbling all flustered with anger at Carlson mocking her. I'm glad Americans are finally realizing the extent of the enemy that exists to the north excepting as Coulter admitted us rightists in the west who are not so bigoted.

Luckily, we Canadians (and I am very proud to be one) are so superior to the Americans, in every way mind.. that I find all opinions to the contrary moot!

This comment perfectly displays the complete arrogance and hypocrisy of Canadians. I love it!

[kimmy]

I truely wish all of the Right Wing ( Albertans? )  on this site would pick up and leave.  You can almost pick out where people on this forum are from.

paraphrased, "Opinions that I don't agree with make me uncomfortable! Please leave! "

-kimmy

[I miss Reagan]

I truely wish all of the Right Wing ( Albertans? )  on this site would pick up and leave.  You can almost pick out where people on this forum are from.

paraphrased, "Opinions that I don't agree with make me uncomfortable! Please leave! "

-kimmy

Better yet it reflects a deeper, intolerant socialist idiology so pervasive on this forum. How they'd love to be rid of us Albertans. But then they wouldn't have any wealth creators to tax. And who would they have to hate?

Balance in government is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. I even wanted more liberals to win in the last provincial election (and some separtists )

[Stoker]

Better yet it reflects a deeper, intolerant socialist idiology so pervasive on this forum. How they'd love to be rid of us Albertans. But then they wouldn't have any wealth creators to tax. And who would they have to hate?

Balance in government is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. I even wanted more liberals to win in the last provincial election (and some separtists  )

That is a decent point, I really can't think of a "right-wing" poster that has told a left-winger to leave, I know many have called names and questioned their sanity, but I can't think of the "go away" responce used by the "right"........

Might have happend, just don't remember it

[Newfie Canadian]

I'm glad Americans are finally realizing the extent of the enemy that exists to the north

That's gotta be the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.

Thanks IMR.

us rightists in the west who are not so bigoted.

Except apparently, when it concerns people of the left or fellow countrymen.

I truely wish all of the Right Wing ( Albertans? ) on this site would pick up and leave.

Unnecessary and uncalled for.

so superior to the Americans, in every way

Hubris?

I love some of the stereotyping going on here.

Westerners are this; Atlantic Canadians are that; Québecers are something else; the left is the devil; the right is the devil; and Americans are whatever.

I think it just goes to show the one thing that everyone, no matter who they are, can have in common: pettiness.

Is that a stereotype?

[August1991]

Better yet it reflects a deeper, intolerant socialist idiology so pervasive on this forum.

I haven't found such a bias on this forum.

But this thread has raised a good question: who is more intolerant, the Left or the Right?

At first glance, I don't see why intolerance would be correlated more with one viewpoint or another.

I really can't think of a "right-wing" poster that has told a left-winger to leave,

But I tend to agree with you, Stoker.

[theloniusfleabag]

Dear kimmy,

However, it's unlikely that the United States would have ever permitted Canada to develop the means to threaten them militarily.

Very unlikely. In fact, the US has openly stated that NO nation shall be allowed to come close to them, militarily.

As to the US military valuing the deaths of 85,000 Rwandans to the risking of the life of 1 American soldier, I wonder how Canadians rate?

[kimmy]

I don't exactly get what you're saying, Fleabag. Under what kind of situation would US soldiers be at risk in Canada?

If you're talking about a US invasion, I don't think they'd be detered by deaths of some soldiers or of some Canadians. If the US felt threatened enough to invade us, I think it would be because they meant business, not because they thought they could do it with few casualties.

You mentioned the 80,000:1 figure before, and I believe you said it was in the context of assessing how much humanitarian benefit they would expect before risking American lives. Earlier when you mentioned this, I asked whether you had any particular figure in mind for Canadian involvement, and I don't recall getting an answer. If you were in charge, and your advisors told you an operation would likely cost 10 Canadian soldiers their lives, how many foreigners would you have to save to decide it was worth it? If you could save 10 Sudanese civilians by sacrificing 10 Canadian soldiers, would you do it? (if one of our leaders thought so, I'd be sure to kick him in the groin hard enough to remove him from the gene pool.) What about 50 Sudanese? What about 100? 1000?

-kimmy

[Shakeyhands]

debated wether to respond or not and decided why not...

My pick up and leave comment was not meant to mean from the forum, but rather from the Province (wether it be Alberta or Quebec) or where ever else it is that you are unhappy with, and I tend to think for the mostpart, that it, the problem you have, is the Progressive (re Liberal) idiology that permeates the rest of this great land.

Like a great man once said... Love it or Leave it.

[Black Dog]

I truely wish all of the Right Wing ( Albertans? ) on this site would pick up and leave. You can almost pick out where people on this forum are from.

A-hem!

I beg to differ.

[theloniusfleabag]

Dear kimmy,

I don't exactly get what you're saying, Fleabag. Under what kind of situation would US soldiers be at risk in Canada?

The question is hypothetical of course, but perhaps we could say 50 Canadians imperilled in some African country. Suppose they were to be killed because they were Canadians, and suppose the US had the nearest forces. Or suppose Canadians went haywire, and the Francophones decided to kill every Anglophone(and were succeeding).

Earlier when you mentioned this, I asked whether you had any particular figure in mind for Canadian involvement, and I don't recall getting an answer.

My apologies, I don't recall reading your specific question. I do not think I could put a numbers ratio to such an event,(and I believe it would be crass to do so) it would really depend on the circumstance. For example, if the Nazi Party re-took Germany, and began to restoke the furnaces of Auschwitz, I think Canada should risk soldiers before the first Jew hit the gas chamber, let alone set a 'number ratio' of 85,000 to 1. I don't even think a 1-1 ratio is too much to ask if one is battling genocide. But again circumstances must dictate, for there must be "good and reasonable hopes of victory, however long and hard the road may be". (quote courtesy of Winston Churchill)

[I miss Reagan]

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I'm glad Americans are finally realizing the extent of the enemy that exists to the north

That's gotta be the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.

Thanks IMR. 

Well the Americans don't pay much attention to us up here, but perhaps it's about time Canada suffers the consequences for it's open anti-Americanism.

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Better yet it reflects a deeper, intolerant socialist idiology so pervasive on this forum. 

I haven't found such a bias on this forum.

But this thread has raised a good question: who is more intolerant, the Left or the Right?

At first glance, I don't see why intolerance would be correlated more with one viewpoint or another.

Perhaps you're right, it may just be similar to what we see on a national scale. Mainly a left of center population with a small percentage of loud mouthed NDP's constantly trying to steal the spotlight. Fairly successful strategy for them though, as the saying goes, the squeeky wheel gets the grease.

As for intolerance, it's usually trait attributed to the right for things like our opposition to certain immigration policies, gay marriage etc., fairly or unfairly. The left often claims tolerence and open minded thinking. Yet the left in Canada seem to be tolerant of nationalities with exception of Americans and religions except Chistianity and Judaism. In fact they extremely prejudicial towards these groups of people.