kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I would gladly resume military service to help President Trump send Iran a special message. Been waiting almost 40 years to do so. Please do so but do it in something that is a service to the society not wars... Your country needs you! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 In 1981, it was so bad in Iran they successfully bombed the Islamic Republic Party in Tehran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafte_Tir_bombing Nothing says love live a political bombing...Hafte Tir ! 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 The revoultion in Iran was unprecedented and nothing seen in its history. The time you have selectively chisen was at the height of the turmoil and the war with Iraq Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Another reason to like Saddam Hussein...he put a serious beat down on Iran. Iranians are still mad about that ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Another reason to like Saddam Hussein...he put a serious beat down on Iran. Iranians are still mad about that ! You mean when Rumsfeld was in bed with Saddam in 80's sellng him weapons? Sure... Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) So many nations wanted to bomb Iran...hell...even Iranians wanted to bomb Iran. Marcia...Marcia...Marcia, Iran...Iran...Iran. Edited February 11, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
drummindiver Posted February 11, 2017 Author Report Posted February 11, 2017 On 02/02/2017 at 0:10 PM, eyeball said: Hey at least the US is giving Iran a heads up this time. More than they got back in '53 when they first destabilized the region by practicing democracy. Launching missiles seems pretty tame in comparison really. I don't know. I've seen pics of those times, women walking around in skirts without being covered head to foot. And destabilize by practicing democracy? What political ideology would you have ppl practice? 1 Quote
kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 2 hours ago, drummindiver said: I don't know.... That's all there's to know.... 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) A total U.S. travel ban should have been in place for Iranians since 1979. Instead, Iranians keep trying to get into the USA (Great Satan). President Carter did ban Iranians for a spell. Edited February 11, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
drummindiver Posted February 11, 2017 Author Report Posted February 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, kactus said: That's all there's to know.... Sorry, what do you mean? I imagine women walking around in whatever they want and students having open discussion at university offends your progressive leaning? Yes, thank goodness for the revolution that ousted that hated democracy. Quote
kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Great analysis by Maher on Trump's third week in office. Brilliant!!! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-maher-donald-trump-third-week_us_589ebb68e4b0ab2d2b157e8c Quote
drummindiver Posted February 11, 2017 Author Report Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, kactus said: Great analysis by Maher on Trump's third week in office. Brilliant!!! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-maher-donald-trump-third-week_us_589ebb68e4b0ab2d2b157e8c Yet no mention of the left losing g their shit and destroying private and public property, not to also mention beating and pepper spraying people in the fight against fascism. Edited February 11, 2017 by drummindiver Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 2 hours ago, drummindiver said: I don't know. I've seen pics of those times, women walking around in skirts without being covered head to foot. And destabilize by practicing democracy? What political ideology would you have ppl practice? Don't buy into the alt-history. Iran was a pill long before Kermit Roosevelt arrived with a suitcase full of money for the remaining Iranian officers not yet aboard with the Coup. The UN's very first crisis, in fact, was Iranian made. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_crisis_of_1946 Ah yes, the USSR...a non-entity in all alt-history where America = Evil. Stalin invaded Iran in 1941 when the Shah's father started making noises about joining-in the fun that was Operation Barbarossa. Churchill end-ran Stalin and seized the oil fields. The Persian Corridor resulted. Almost every highway, railway and airport in Iran were initially constructed by the USA as part of Lend Lease. Under The Shah, Iran enjoyed a push towards modernity. That's where all the miniskirts came from. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
drummindiver Posted February 11, 2017 Author Report Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Don't buy into the alt-history. Iran was a pill long before Kermit Roosevelt arrived with a suitcase full of money for the remaining Iranian officers not yet aboard with the Coup. The UN's very first crisis, in fact, was Iranian made. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_crisis_of_1946 Ah yes, the USSR...a non-entity in all alt-history where America = Evil. Stalin invaded Iran in 1941 when the Shah's father started making noises about joining-in the fun that was Operation Barbarossa. Churchill end-ran Stalin and seized the oil fields. The Persian Corridor resulted. Almost every highway, railway and airport in Iran were initially constructed by the USA as part of Lend Lease. Under The Shah, Iran enjoyed a push towards modernity. That's where all the miniskirts came from. But you're not aligning with ppls narrative of the US as Evil Empire. Facts are hard. Ths Shah was no great shake, but he sure as hell was better than what followed. 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: ....Under The Shah, Iran enjoyed a push towards modernity. That's where all the miniskirts came from. Yep....Iran even got some F-14 Tomcats and had a surplus diesel submarine on order. I saw the modified labels/tags myself (Farsi ?) That's why any Iranian who knows better tries to get the hell out of Iran, many going to California (same as so many Armenians). 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Yep....Iran even got some F-14 Tomcats and had a surplus diesel submarine on order. I saw the modified labels/tags myself (Farsi ?) That's why any Iranian who knows better tries to get the hell out of Iran, many going to California (same as so many Armenians). Some become astronauts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anousheh_Ansari 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Some become astronauts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anousheh_Ansari Tough choice....worship the Ayatollah...or join the Great Satan's NASA. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Tough choice....worship the Ayatollah...or join the Great Satan's NASA. She got into a bit of heat from the PC crowd for wearing an Iranian flag from PRE-1979...heh. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 2 hours ago, drummindiver said: I don't know. I've seen pics of those times, women walking around in skirts without being covered head to foot. And destabilize by practicing democracy? What political ideology would you have ppl practice? Sorry, I forgot facetiousness baffles you. What people practice in their own country is their business. Washington made it America's business to see to it however that Iran was subjected to a dictatorship instead. Imagine that eh, the most powerful and Shiniest Beacon of democracy on the planet killing democracy and installing dictators instead. It's disgusting, like priests raping children. Who and why on Earth would anyone want to defend or apologize or otherwise shrug off such an abomination is beyond me. There clearly something wrong with anyone who would do that. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: What people practice in their own country is their business. Really ? Then please explain why so many Canadian sycophants for American left-wingers are so animated and upset about President Trump, regardless of Iran (a policy not of his making). Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Because Trump's a complete asshole that's why. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) Ultimately, the Coup of 1953 was about the Iranian military and their supporters not wanting to be part of the Soviet Union as the Tudeh Party was attempting. Many had spent most of WW2 in Soviet POW Gulags and had a special hate for the USSR. Mossadeq used the Tudehs to get 'democratically elected' but then even they turned on him when he didn't move fast enough...can't win if yer poor Mousey. He spent the rest of his days in luxury house arrest...which is better than a Gulag. Edited February 11, 2017 by DogOnPorch 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Because Trump's a complete asshole that's why. So it's OK to rant and rave about what happens in other countries when you decide. Iranians and Canadians can practice what they want, but not Americans. Got it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Perfectly ok to rant and rave all you like. Your moronic country clearly crossed a line in Iran though - a line that was recognized way back in Westphalia. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, eyeball said: Perfectly ok to rant and rave all you like. Your moronic country clearly crossed a line in Iran though - a line that was recognized way back in Westphalia. Meh...Iran is just another nation on a long list. Canada did the same thing to Haiti. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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