betsy Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) He's impulsively spouting off again...... Quote 'Shameful and embarrassing': Justin Trudeau gets slammed for his remarks praising Fidel Castro Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, whose family's ties with the late Cuban leader Fidel Castro go back decades, mourned the loss of a "remarkable leader" on Saturday, sparking a flurry of criticism and humor at his favorable tone. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, who is also of Cuban descent, agreed with Rubio, calling Trudeau’s remarks "disgraceful." In a series of tweets, Cruz suggested that Trudeau and President Barack Obama — whose own statement avoided directly criticizing Castro, although steered clear of praise — "take a min (sic) to look into the eyes of victims of communism" before "slobbering adulation on tyrants." http://uk.businessinsider.com/justin-trudeau-slammed-for-praising-fidel-castro-2016-11 Quote Rubio Tougher On Obama And Trudeau Than They Were On Castro “History will record and judge the enormous impact of this singular figure on the people and world around him,” was the closest Obama came to criticizing the oppressive tyrant. Trudeau’s statement, meanwhile, went even further — actually praising Castro and noting the friendship between Castro and Trudeau’s father. Rubio later incredulously tweeted out a link to Trudeau’s statement, asking if it was a parody. “Is this a real statement or a parody?” Rubio said. “Because if this is a real statement from the [Prime Minister] of Canada it is shameful & embarrassing.” Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/26/rubio-tougher-on-obama-and-trudeau-than-they-were-on-castro/#ixzz4RAbVBfPr So his family is friends with Fidel Castro. PM Trudeau must be able to set aside personal feelings when he's representing Canada. Rubio and Cruz are both Republicans. Whether he recognizes this or not, this has something to do with diplomatic relations - especially when you're going to deal with a new US administration! Besides, they do have a point in criticizing him! Also, the way Trudeau is still being linked with Obama, isn't going to help at all. Edited November 27, 2016 by betsy Quote
kimmy Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 Who cares what Cruz and Rubio think? They should spend less time worrying about Justin Trudeau's twitter and more time worrying about whether they're on El Trumpo's "enemies list." -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
Derek 2.0 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 46 minutes ago, kimmy said: Who cares what Cruz and Rubio think? They should spend less time worrying about Justin Trudeau's twitter and more time worrying about whether they're on El Trumpo's "enemies list." -k Based on Trump's response to Castro's death, Cruz and Rubio should be fine.........Trudeau and the Canadian economy should be the ones worrying. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 I have to laugh at some of Andrew Coyne's tweets: Quote “While a controversial figure, even detractors recognize Pol Pot encouraged renewed contact between city and countryside.” Quote “While a controversial figure, General Tojo brought America into World War II and ultimately helped shorten the war.” TSN's Mike Hogan: Quote Today we mourn the loss of Norman Bates, a family man who was truly defined by his devotion to his mother. And the list goes on.......I know Trudeau is a narcissistic attention hog, but he's doing it wrong Quote
msj Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 You are correct, this is not the first time, nor the last, that a CDN politician has said something stupid after the demise of a foreign leader. And here we have Harper's statement about the death of the King of Saudi Arabia in 2015: http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=924869 Ottawa, Ontario - 22 January 2015 Prime Minister Stephen Harper today issued the following statement on the death of King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia: “On behalf of all Canadians, Laureen and I offer our sincere condolences to the family of King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz and the people of Saudi Arabia. “King Abdullah was recognized as a strong proponent of peace in the Middle East. He also undertook a range of important economic, social, education, health, and infrastructure initiatives in his country. “I had the pleasure of meeting King Abdullah in Toronto when Canada hosted the G-20 and found him to be passionate about his country, development and the global economy. “We join the people of Saudi Arabia in mourning his passing.” Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Derek 2.0 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 1 minute ago, msj said: You are correct, this is not the first time, nor the last, that a CDN politician has said something stupid after the demise of a foreign leader. There is no comparison.......read the first line: Quote “It is with deep sorrow that I learned today of the death of Cuba’s longest serving President. “Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his people for almost half a century. A legendary revolutionary and orator, Mr. Castro made significant improvements to the education and healthcare of his island nation. Castro......served his people for half a century? Its not like they had any say in the matter Quote
msj Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 Then there is Senator Leo Housakos who tweeted this : .@tedcruz Sadly, our @CanadianPM has no respect for our democratic way of life and basic human rights and freedom. https://twitter.com/senatorhousakos/status/802626758918995968 Yes, our PM has no respect for basic human rights and freedom because he posted an "eulogy" about Castro. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Derek 2.0 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, msj said: Yes, our PM has no respect for basic human rights and freedom because he posted an "eulogy" about Castro. I'm sure a great many Cubans, those that have had family members murdered or imprisoned for political reasons, would tend to agree. Quote
msj Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 Just now, Derek 2.0 said: There is no comparison.......read the first line: We Canadians joined with Saudis in the passing of their King? Really? Well, okay, I'm sure Harper mourned the old King but Laureen? Nah, I'm sure she's smarter than that. And Saudi's? What choice did they have with their old king? And their current one? Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
msj Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 Just now, Derek 2.0 said: I'm sure a great many Cubans, those that have had family members murdered or imprisoned for political reasons, would tend to agree. As I'm sure anyone from Saudi Arabia would feel about Harper's mouning for their King who was responsible for some deaths too (and who knows, maybe knew more about 9/11 than he let on. ) Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Derek 2.0 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, msj said: We Canadians joined with Saudis in the passing of their King? Really? Well, okay, I'm sure Harper mourned the old King but Laureen? Nah, I'm sure she's smarter than that. And Saudi's? What choice did they have with their old king? And their current one? What's wrong with the Saudis? Trudeau, like Harper, felt comfortable in allowing one of the largest sale of arms in Canadian history to protect the Royal family........alas, Harper isn't our Prime Minister, nor the topic of the thread Edited November 27, 2016 by Derek 2.0 Quote
The_Squid Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Derek 2.0 said: What's wrong with the Saudis? Trudeau, like Harper, felt comfortable in allowing one of the largest sale of arms to protect the Royal family........alas, Harper isn't our Prime Minister, nor the topic of the thread It just shows the deep hypocrisy of people like you who didn't blink an eye about Harper singing the praises of the Saudi dictator..... but Trudeau..... Quote
msj Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) The media, and elected officials, have been slow to take to social media until 2016 so I'm not surprised at all by the difference. The hypocrisy on display within this thread also is of no surprise..... Edited November 27, 2016 by msj Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
msj Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 12 minutes ago, Derek 2.0 said: What's wrong with the Saudis? Trudeau, like Harper, felt comfortable in allowing one of the largest sale of arms in Canadian history to protect the Royal family........alas, Harper isn't our Prime Minister, nor the topic of the thread The topic of the thread is stupid things stated by a sitting PM. Harper has stated things, officially, in the past on par with what Trudeau has stated and you put on your partisan blinkers. Sort of like this: Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Derek 2.0 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 1 minute ago, msj said: The media has been slow to take to social media until 2016 so I'm not surprised at all by the difference. The hypocrisy on display within this thread also is of no surprise..... Apples to oranges.........Harper is no longer the leader of the GoC.......and as I said, wasn't made a laughing stock around the world Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 Just now, msj said: The topic of the thread is stupid things stated by a sitting PM. No, stupid things said by this PM.......reread the OP again perhaps. Quote
msj Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 Well, he should be because his statement is as foolish as Trudeau's. And your partisan hypocrisy continues to shine in this thread. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
msj Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Derek 2.0 said: No, stupid things said by this PM.......reread the OP again perhaps. Which compares earily in a similar fashion to stupid things said by the previous guy but you would rather have us forget that Harper "mourned" the loss of an unelected King in a totalitarian land called Saudi Arabia at the beginning of 2015. Take off the partisan blinkers. Edited November 27, 2016 by msj Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Derek 2.0 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, msj said: Take off the partisan blinkers. Says the guy trying to change the channel and disrupt the topic Quote
msj Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) Because pointing out facts that make others feel uncomfortable is "changing the channel." Maybe take a look at my interests over here <------------------------------------------------------------- Edited November 27, 2016 by msj Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
taxme Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 8 hours ago, betsy said: He's impulsively spouting off again...... http://uk.businessinsider.com/justin-trudeau-slammed-for-praising-fidel-castro-2016-11 Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/26/rubio-tougher-on-obama-and-trudeau-than-they-were-on-castro/#ixzz4RAbVBfPr So his family is friends with Fidel Castro. PM Trudeau must be able to set aside personal feelings when he's representing Canada. Rubio and Cruz are both Republicans. Whether he recognizes this or not, this has something to do with diplomatic relations - especially when you're going to deal with a new US administration! Besides, they do have a point in criticizing him! Also, the way Trudeau is still being linked with Obama, isn't going to help at all. Fidel Castro was famous for his death squads, secret prisons, torture rooms, and government tyranny. A fine dictator to look up too, eh? And our PM praises this murderer. And this is the PM that our children are suppose to look up too. It's no wonder that Canada is in deep trouble with liberals like him running the show. And why the left wing lame stream fake and phony liberal media think he was some great guy for his people is beyond me. His people were nothing more than slaves. Castro dined, while they whined. Finally this guy has been removed from earth. He is probably now having dinner with his communist buddies Mao and Stalin and Pol Pot. Quote
betsy Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, kimmy said: Who cares what Cruz and Rubio think? They should spend less time worrying about Justin Trudeau's twitter and more time worrying about whether they're on El Trumpo's "enemies list." -k It wasn't just twitter. Trudeau gave a speech, representing Canada. We know how Trump feels about the Castros. He was incensed over what he felt were insults to the USA when Obama landed on Cuba, and no high representatives were there to greet him on the tarmac. Cruz and Rubio are both Latinos. ANTI-CASTRO! If I'm not mistaken, they've won their seats. They'll have their say. Take it from there. Edited November 27, 2016 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, Derek 2.0 said: I have to laugh at some of Andrew Coyne's tweets: TSN's Mike Hogan: And the list goes on.......I know Trudeau is a narcissistic attention hog, but he's doing it wrong Hahahaha. I could understand China and Russia heaping praises on their dead comrade, after all they're all of the same mould. Mind you, Trudeau had admired China too - he's into communism and socialism. Big time. Edited November 27, 2016 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, msj said: Then there is Senator Leo Housakos who tweeted this : .@tedcruz Sadly, our @CanadianPM has no respect for our democratic way of life and basic human rights and freedom. https://twitter.com/senatorhousakos/status/802626758918995968 Yes, our PM has no respect for basic human rights and freedom because he posted an "eulogy" about Castro. No, I wouldn't say he has no respect for basic human right. I'd say he's indeed immature.....and he sorely lacks diplomacy! He should be muzzled by his handlers. Never mind the drama! This isn't a drama play. Edited November 27, 2016 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, The_Squid said: It just shows the deep hypocrisy of people like you who didn't blink an eye about Harper singing the praises of the Saudi dictator..... but Trudeau..... Let's compare dictators. Well.....how many dictators does the Liberal government (past and present), kisses a** kowtow to? Count them in the UN! What PM had ever said this of China? Quote Justin Trudeau's 'foolish' China remarks spark anger 'It seems to be that he's not well-informed,' Asian-Canadian says of Liberal leader Members of the Asian-Canadian community are demanding an apology from Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau, following his comments on Thursday expressing admiration for China's "basic dictatorship." A round table of people from China, Taiwan, Tibet and Korea — all of whom say they suffered at the hands of China's dictatorship — said they were insulted by Trudeau's remarks, made on Thursday at a women's event. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/justin-trudeau-s-foolish-china-remarks-spark-anger-1.2421351 If you hadn't noticed.....we're becoming a laughing stock! Edited November 27, 2016 by betsy Quote
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