DogOnPorch Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 Just now, Omni said: And so can any Jew, Christian, atheist, etc. Except they don't. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Except they don't. And Timothy Mcveigh was a Muslim was he? Quote
eyeball Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 2 hours ago, bcsapper said: Do you really think that, wordlwide, currently, Christianity is as bad as Islam when it comes to egregious religious practices? Not currently but that could easily change given certain circumstances. That said there is no other nation on Earth as venal and murderous as America when it come to egregious economic policies and geo-political vandalism. It's unfortunate people feel the need to fly airliners into skyscrapers to combat that but I can certainly understand why they would. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 Just now, eyeball said: That said there is no other nation on Earth as venal and murderous as America when it come to egregious economic policies and geo-political vandalism. Well, somebody had to replace Canada's favourite but failed Empire. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, Omni said: And Timothy Mcveigh was a Muslim was he? Ooooo...the 20th century. Got anything newer? I would also suggest McVeigh was mad at the government rather than expressing any latent Christian morality. I don't recall his chant...did it sound like Allahu Akbar? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Well, somebody had to replace Canada's favourite but failed Empire. You guys have better food, anyways. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Well, somebody had to replace Canada's favourite but failed Empire. Why? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: Why? Because Canada's original religious fanatics still wanted to make a buck. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: Why? In 1865, there was a big-azz Union Army wondering if it was time to finish-off the Natives or the British. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Ooooo...the 20th century. Got anything newer? I would also suggest McVeigh was mad at the government rather than expressing any latent Christian morality. I don't recall his chant...did it sound like Allahu Akbar? My point is, contrary to what the latest moral panic trope suggests, which you seem to buy, you don't have to be Muslim to blow up a hundred plus people for whatever reason was on his mind. And yes, there are lots newer. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 Just now, Omni said: My point is, contrary to what the latest moral panic trope suggests, which you seem to buy, you don't have to be Muslim to blow up a hundred plus people for whatever reason was on his mind. And yes, there are lots newer. I've been blown-up by the Irish...however, I don't hate all Irish. Just one. Since I actually know the fellow's name who attempted to kill me and my family (along with many others). And Irish society...polite that it is...elected him as a member of their parliament. Islam is different. It rewards the Jihadi with the fast-track to the Big Table in Paradise...Heaven Plus, as it were. The IRA/Provos have no such clause in their terrorism. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I've been blown-up by the Irish...however, I don't hate all Irish. Just one. Since I actually know the fellow's name who attempted to kill me and my family (along with many others). And Irish society...polite that it is...elected him as a member of their parliament. Islam is different. It rewards the Jihadi with the fast-track to the Big Table in Paradise...Heaven Plus, as it were. The IRA/Provos have no such clause in their terrorism. And again you confirm the point, terrorists do what they do for a variety of reasons. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Omni said: And again you confirm the point, terrorists do what they do for a variety of reasons. No...Islam the religion is the theme in all these recent attacks and wars. Period. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: No...Islam the religion is the theme in all these recent attacks and wars. Period. I guess, if you cherrypick everything to suit, and/or watch too much Fox news. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Omni said: I guess, if you cherrypick everything to suit, and/or watch too much Fox news. You're watching too much Fox News? Well stop. Only a defender of Islam would disagree with me. I guess Islam needs your help. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: You're watching too much Fox News? Well stop. Only a defender of Islam would disagree with me. I guess Islam needs your help. I had the good sense to stop watching Fox news after a week of having to watch it at meal times on a US military base. I see where it gets you. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 MSM sucks...perhaps you've heard. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dialamah Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 20 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: No...Islam the religion is the theme in all these recent attacks and wars. Period. Western imperialism and expansion into the Middle East has killed far more people than Islamic terrorism. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Omni said: I had the good sense to stop watching Fox news after a week of having to watch it at meal times on a US military base. I see where it gets you. Interesting....this is the second MLW member who has related an identical story and perspective. Perhaps this shapes an opinion about Islamic fanaticism and immigration to Canada. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Interesting....this is the second MLW member who has related an identical story and perspective. Perhaps this shapes an opinion about Islamic fanaticism and immigration to Canada. I think we try to get the facts straight rather than let the alt. right news screed get us jumping to conclusions. Quote
herples Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Similar to claiming that the Nazis were a White Supremacist movement. While technically true, it ignores every other aspect of Nazism...from Blitzkriegs to Bismarcks. The KKK were just as likely to hang you no matter your skin colour if you didn't agree with their particular value set. Republicans, Jews and Catholics included. Naturally, any black political movement in the South was going to be its target. But, you've seen Mississippi Burning...only one black guy in that automobile. None of this really matters other than comparing Islam and the KKK is comparing apples to oranges. Edited December 18, 2016 by herples Quote
Argus Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Posted December 18, 2016 3 hours ago, herples said: Which says more about the mindset of that person than Islam itself. The mindset of the worshipers IS the religion. That's why we don't burn witches at the stake any more, or persecute Jews. The Bible hasn't changed. WE have changed. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Posted December 18, 2016 2 hours ago, dialamah said: Isis and Boko Haram both enslave women, and no doubt other extreme sects do as well. That's all the proof they need: .006625% of the Muslim population does it, so it must be mainstream. Slavery has a long history in the Arab world, and is still practiced In Egypt today, never mind boko haram and ISiS. Both of them, btw, cite the Koran as justification for slavery. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Omni said: My point is, contrary to what the latest moral panic trope suggests, which you seem to buy, you don't have to be Muslim to blow up a hundred plus people for whatever reason was on his mind. And yes, there are lots newer. Lots? There have been well over 12,000 terrorist attacks in the name of Islam just this year alone. And quite aside from the terrorism is the substantial portion of the Muslim world which believes gays should be executed, that Jews are evil, and that any woman who shows her ankle is a whore who should at the very least be publicly flogged. These are cultural beliefs you are supposed to oppose, yet you want to import tens of thousands of people who hold them into Canada to live among us every year. And your sole justification is some variation of "Well, maybe they'll change." Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
herples Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 Just now, Argus said: The mindset of the worshipers IS the religion. That's why we don't burn witches at the stake any more, or persecute Jews. The Bible hasn't changed. WE have changed. Mindset varies from person to person so calling it the religion seems strange when it's the system of beliefs that make the religion. Quote
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