Immigration of religious fanatics

[?Impact]

2 hours ago, Argus said:

Canada and the US have a better record of taking in refugees than most of the rest of the world.

Certainly Canada and the US have a good track record of taking in permanent refugees and helping them integrate into a new environment. We should not however dismiss the many countries on the front lines that are dealing with hundreds of thousands or millions of refugees on an urgent basis, but don't have the resources or bandwidth to address the long term consequences.

[Argus]

Just now, ?Impact said:

Certainly Canada and the US have a good track record of taking in permanent refugees and helping them integrate into a new environment. We should not however dismiss the many countries on the front lines that are dealing with hundreds of thousands or millions of refugees on an urgent basis, but don't have the resources or bandwidth to address the long term consequences.

The difference is they, for the most part, don't have much choice. There are damned few countries which are comfortably far from the action which volunteer to take in tens of thousands of poverty stricken refugees every single year.

[Canadianjim]

4 minutes ago, Argus said:

It was a deeply dishonest question. Germans today are extremely Liberal and moderate. Maybe you should answer why you're focused on a people who did horrible thing seventy years ago instead of people doing horrible things now.

I agree. wonderful people."""Germans today are extremely Liberal and moderate""""My spouse is German. Born and raised. We spend 4 months a year every year in Germany. I know Germany better than you could imagine and they are first ones to recognize that you are in the wrong. Which is why exactly why they have taken in so many Syrian refugees ,,,over 1 million.. They know better than anyone how slandering a group leads to atrocities/. Are you aware  that the way the nazis portrayed Jews in the propaganda was how how you portray all Muslims? They spread  all kinds of dis information like you do.That allowed them to go to the next step which was concentration camps and extermination. We have seen this before.

[WestCoastRunner]

12 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

I agree. wonderful people."""Germans today are extremely Liberal and moderate""""My spouse is German. Born and raised. We spend 4 months a year every year in Germany. I know Germany better than you could imagine and they are first ones to recognize that you are in the wrong. Which is why exactly why they have taken in so many Syrian refugees ,,,over 1 million.. They know better than anyone how slandering a group leads to atrocities/. Are you aware  that the way the nazis portrayed Jews in the propaganda was how how you portray all Muslims? They spread  all kinds of dis information like you do.That allowed them to go to the next step which was concentration camps and extermination. We have seen this before.

Thank you for your posts. An incredible number of comments have been posted here to incite hatred towards Muslims. And you discuss how easy it is to see how propaganda and hate is spread. 

 

[Canadianjim]

2 minutes ago, WestCoastRunner said:

Thank you for your posts. An incredible number of comments have been posted here to incite hatred towards Muslims. And you discuss how easy it is to see how propaganda and hate is spread. 

 

I am glad you see through the propaganda and hate as well. We are  Canadians. We are smarter than that.

[Argus]

21 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

I agree. wonderful people."""Germans today are extremely Liberal and moderate""""My spouse is German. Born and raised. We spend 4 months a year every year in Germany. I know Germany better than you could imagine and they are first ones to recognize that you are in the wrong. Which is why exactly why they have taken in so many Syrian refugees ,,,over 1 million..

Which is why German girls are being molested, raped and murdered and bombs are blowing up and terrorism is on the rise. And much more of this and Merkel will be gone and you will see the right rising in Germany as it is doing in France and other countries. Merkel and those around her are stupidly naive.

21 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

They know better than anyone how slandering a group leads to atrocities/. Are you aware  that the way the nazis portrayed Jews in the propaganda was how how you portray all Muslims?

You have  yet to even make a modest effort at showing I have portrayed Muslims inaccurately. I think that's because you know you can't.

[Argus]

4 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

I am glad you see through the propaganda and hate as well. We are  Canadians. We are smarter than that.

There is no evidence either one of you is a Canadian.

[WestCoastRunner]

28 minutes ago, Argus said:

The difference is they, for the most part, don't have much choice. There are damned few countries which are comfortably far from the action which volunteer to take in tens of thousands of poverty stricken refugees every single year.

And shame on the rest of the world including Canada. We can do much much more. 

[WestCoastRunner]

5 minutes ago, Argus said:

There is no evidence either one of you is a Canadian.

LOL!!!!

[WestCoastRunner]

7 minutes ago, Argus said:

Which is why German girls are being molested, raped and murdered and bombs are blowing up and terrorism is on the rise. And much more of this and Merkel will be gone and you will see the right rising in Germany as it is doing in France and other countries. Merkel and those around her are stupidly naive.

You have  yet to even make a modest effort at showing I have portrayed Muslims inaccurately. I think that's because you know you can't.

How have Muslims living in Canada hurt us? 

[Canadianjim]

1 minute ago, WestCoastRunner said:

LOL!!!!

I learned a long time ago that what anyone else thinks of me is none of my business.

[Argus]

3 minutes ago, WestCoastRunner said:

And shame on the rest of the world including Canada. We can do much much more. 

You may volunteer to surrender your pension and sell your possessions to help them. Nothing is stopping you.

But no, when you say 'we could do so much more" you mean "You other people should pay more money to help these foreigners while I sit fat and warm and comfortable with my government pension."

 

[Argus]

1 minute ago, WestCoastRunner said:

How have Muslims living in Canada hurt us? 

Since people like you fight so fiercely to prevent any kind of statistics from being kept on the race or ethnicity of criminals that is not known. I know that in my city most of the shootings and killings involve immigrants and refugees, most of them Muslims.

[WestCoastRunner]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

You may volunteer to surrender your pension and sell your possessions to help them. Nothing is stopping you.

But no, when you say 'we could do so much more" you mean "You other people should pay more money to help these foreigners while I sit fat and warm and comfortable with my government pension."

 

Government pension?  I wish!!!!!

[Canadianjim]

8 minutes ago, Argus said:

Which is why German girls are being molested, raped and murdered and bombs are blowing up and terrorism is on the rise. And much more of this and Merkel will be gone and you will see the right rising in Germany as it is doing in France and other countries. Merkel and those around her are stupidly naive.

You have  yet to even make a modest effort at showing I have portrayed Muslims inaccurately. I think that's because you know you can't.

 

8 minutes ago, Argus said:

Which is why German girls are being molested, raped and murdered and bombs are blowing up and terrorism is on the rise. And much more of this and Merkel will be gone and you will see the right rising in Germany as it is doing in France and other countries. Merkel and those around her are stupidly naive.

You have  yet to even make a modest effort at showing I have portrayed Muslims inaccurately. I think that's because you know you can't.

""You have  yet to even make a modest effort at showing I have portrayed Muslims inaccurately. I think that's because you know you can't."

 

I don't need to. You are one making the claim that all Muslims are jihadists  or religious fanatics. It's not up to me to prove a negative. You need to make your case why every single Muslim thinks exactly the same way. So far all i see is hate rhetoric and questions based on false premises.

Now if you have evidence , I am sure everyone would like to see it. I'll wait.

[Argus]

Just now, Canadianjim said:

I don't need to. You are one making the claim that all Muslims are jihadists  or religious fanatics. It's not up to me to prove a negative. You need to make your case why every single Muslim thinks exactly the same way.

So if one single Muslim does not hate Jews that invalidates the need to examine the values of potential immigrants to Canada? Well, I know one thing about you - you're not a Jew.

I have never used the term 'all' to describe anything. And I have already posted opinion surveys taken of Muslims in the middle east with regard to their opinions on Jews and gays. Their opinions on women are, of course, well known.

[Canadianjim]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

So if one single Muslim does not hate Jews that invalidates the need to examine the values of potential immigrants to Canada? Well, I know one thing about you - you're not a Jew.

I have never used the term 'all' to describe anything. And I have already posted opinion surveys taken of Muslims in the middle east with regard to their opinions on Jews and gays. Their opinions on women are, of course, well known.

You mean like the opinion that Iranians want to exterminate the Jews that we have been hearing for decades?

[?Impact]

5 minutes ago, Argus said:

"You other people should pay more money to help these foreigners while I sit fat and warm and comfortable with my government pension."

Government pension only applies to a small percentage of Canadians, as obviously you are not trying to imply CPP with your fat, warm, and comfortable characterization.

[eyeball]

27 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

As-Salaam-Alaikumou  You are more off side than many extreme fanatics. Thinking 9/11 was justified is the most contemptable comment to disgrace this forum.  

No, the most contemptible comment was where you accused me of supporting pedophiles.

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You keep blaming the US.  Their choice. Hell,   they want to come here and change it into the hell they came from.

No they want us to stop supporting dictators and interfering in their region.  Bin Laden explained all this to America before 9/11. 

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You are a bigot of  the highest order. America is your boogy man. Also a hypocrite. Condemn a priest but not the Muslim for the same crime.

I compared America to a perverted priest and condemned both their crimes.  As for Muslims and condemnation, remember when our troops were in Afghanistan and they became aware of Muslims we where aligned with raping little kids? Apparently our troops could actually hear the kids screaming and we ordered them to do nothing - to not interfere - is the irony of that in the context of this discussion at all apparent to you or are you oblivious to it?

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Back to the blame game. 

You know they don't want this, right?  Have you read Sayyid Qutb's Milestones? That's your NWO.

It's not a game. Of course nobody likes this. And no that's not my NWO at all.

[Canadianjim]

3 minutes ago, Argus said:

So if one single Muslim does not hate Jews that invalidates the need to examine the values of potential immigrants to Canada? Well, I know one thing about you - you're not a Jew.

I have never used the term 'all' to describe anything. And I have already posted opinion surveys taken of Muslims in the middle east with regard to their opinions on Jews and gays. Their opinions on women are, of course, well known.

Then we agree. You can't paint all Muslims the same. No problem. 

[Canadianjim]

11 minutes ago, Argus said:

So if one single Muslim does not hate Jews that invalidates the need to examine the values of potential immigrants to Canada? Well, I know one thing about you - you're not a Jew.

I have never used the term 'all' to describe anything. And I have already posted opinion surveys taken of Muslims in the middle east with regard to their opinions on Jews and gays. Their opinions on women are, of course, well known.

By the way what are the Muslim opinions that well know about women ? Because i have seen muslims societies where women can't leave the home and are veiled. I have also seen muslims societies where women are doctors and don't wear a veil . So what are you referring to when you say well known? 

[Argus]

13 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

You mean like the opinion that Iranians want to exterminate the Jews that we have been hearing for decades?

From the Iranians...

[Argus]

14 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Government pension only applies to a small percentage of Canadians, as obviously you are not trying to imply CPP with your fat, warm, and comfortable characterization.

You are also free to spend as much money as you desire on helping foreigners overseas...

[Canadianjim]

3 minutes ago, Argus said:

From the Iranians...

Then you will interested in looking at all the synagogues in Iran.. starting with Tehran. I am certain an  educated fella like you is quite aware there is a large Jewish population in Iran. I will post many more more cities for you when you finish with these ones.

Tehran[edit]

Abdullah Zadeh Synagogue (Tehran)

Abrishami Synagogue (Tehran)

Aziz Khan Synagogue (Tehran)

Bagh Saba Synagogue (Tehran)

Danial Synagogue (Tehran)

Darvazeh Dolat Synagogue (Tehran)

Ettefagh Synagogue (Tehran)

Ettehad Synagogue (Tehran)

Ezra Yaghoub Synagogue (Tehran)

Fakhrabad Synagogue (Tehran)

Gisha Synagogue (Tehran)

Gorgan Synagogue (Tehran)

Haim Synagogue (Tehran)

Hakim Asher Synagogue (Tehran)

HaRambam Synagogue (Rambam Synagogue) (Tehran)

Fakhrabad Synagogue (Tehran)

Kohan Synagogue (Tehran)

Kourosh Synagogue (Tehran)

Khorasaniha Synagogue (Tehran)

Levian Synagogue (Tehran)

Mahariv Synagogue (Tehran)

Molla Hanina Synagogue (Tehran)

Nosrat Synagogue (Tehran)

Orsharga Synagogue (Tehran)

Pol-e-Choobi Synagogue (Tehran)

Rafi Nia Synagogue (Tehran)

Rah-e Danesh Synagogue (Tehran)

Seid Khandan Synagogue (Tehran)

Synagogue of Gisha (Tehran)

Tafian (Hakim)(pesyan) Synagogue (Tehran)

Tarasht Synagogue (Tehran)

Yusef Abad Synagogue (Tehran)

Yousefzadeh Synagogue (Tehran)

Zargarian Synagogue (Tehran)

 

 

Edited December 21, 2016 by Canadianjim

[?Impact]

6 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

Then you will interested in looking at all the synagogues in Iran.. starting with Tehran. I am certain an  educated fella like you is quite aware there is a large Jewish population in Iran.

That is a lot of synagogues, but I thought there were only on the order of 10,000 Jews living in Iran. Since '79, the Jewish population of Iran has decreased significantly. As I understand it now, that population has stabilized and is even beginning to slowly grow. Of course most of them might belong to a synagogue, unlike the normal population in Canada were only a small percentage attend a place of worship. While not insignificant, it is a very small percentage of world Jewish population. 80% of the worlds Jews live in Israel and the US. Canada has a large population, but still less than 3% or about 400,000.