Immigration of religious fanatics

[drummindiver]

5 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

 An Israeli born Jew...who served in the IDF.,..... who's father was a general in the 67 war . who's grandfather was one of the founders,,

You dare imply is fiction?? Tell your what you give me a source that has that kind of credibility. There is no source you have that can match it.. None.

So quit the bullsh^t and then we can have a conservation. We already know the  fiction that  we have been living with for decades ,such as Israel was attacked in 1967. We  know today  thanks to Menachem Begin's  admission, Israel started 3 of it's wars including the 1967 War. However I suspect you don't even know that. We'll see how much propaganda you believe.

What and or who the hell are you talking about?

[Canadianjim]

11 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

What and or who the hell are you talking about?

 

11 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

What and or who the hell are you talking about?

You don't know the propaganda about the 1967 war and how Israel misled the world for many years claiming they were attacked? 

[drummindiver]

1 minute ago, Canadianjim said:

 

You don't know the propaganda about the 1967 war and how Israel misled the world for many years claiming they were attacked? 

You make no sense in your response to my post. I said I read a lot of non fiction about the conflict.

Israel defended herself from the Arabic world committed to her destruction.

You clearly would not be happy unless  Israel has taken up on the offer settling in the Congo.

[Canadianjim]

Just now, drummindiver said:

You make no sense in your response to my post. I said I read a lot of non fiction about the conflict.

Israel defended herself from the Arabic world committed to her destruction.

You clearly would not be happy unless  Israel has taken up on the offer settling in the Congo.

Your wording implied you read a lot of non fiction about" the book the General's son" If that's not the way you meant it then fine. So what part of the story do you want to start with? 

[drummindiver]

I have not read that particular book.

This conflict goes back to 622, but tell me from about 1914.

[Canadianjim]

2 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

I have not read that particular book.

This conflict goes back to 622, but tell me from about 1914.

 

2 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

I have not read that particular book.

This conflict goes back to 622, but tell me from about 1914.

 

2 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

I have not read that particular book.

This conflict goes back to 622, but tell me from about 1914.

Close enough. The Balfour  Declaration

Dear Lord Rothschild, 

I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet

His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country. 

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation. 

Yours,

Arthur James Balfour

[drummindiver]

5 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

 

His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country. 

 

AaAnd then what happened.

[Canadianjim]

1 minute ago, drummindiver said:

AaAnd then what happened.

Then you were made aware contrary to propaganda ,the land is called Palestine. Not Israel.

[DogOnPorch]

Your Muslim fanatic Palestinian pals can stay out of my country.

[Canadianjim]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

Your Muslim fanatic Palestinian pals can stay out of my country.

Ethnic cleansing is a war crime.

 

And Canada is my country as well. And you don't get to accuse  people with no evidence because of your cowardlyparanoia, Hitler did to the  Jews exactly what you are trying to do to all muslims. The lies are disgusting. 

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[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

Ethnic cleansing is a war crime.

 

Exactly...so let's keep Islam well over to the other side of the Globe.

[Canadianjim]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Exactly...so let's keep Islam well over to the other side of the Globe.

And Canada is my country as well. And you don't get to accuse  people with no evidence because of your cowardlyparanoia, Hitler did to the  Jews exactly what you are trying to do to all muslims. The lies are disgusting. 

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

And Canada is my country as well. And you don't get to accuse  people with no evidence because of your cowardlyparanoia, Hitler did to the  Jews exactly what you are trying to do to all muslims. The lies are disgusting. 

 

Jews weren't driving trucks into holiday shoppers in Germany.

Islam is the West's historical enemy. Anything else is spin designed to protect it.

[Canadianjim]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

Jews weren't driving trucks into holiday shoppers in Germany.

Islam is the West's historical enemy. Anything else is spin designed to protect it.

That's right and muslims didn't send 6 million to the gas chambers. That was a christian nation.

[DogOnPorch]

You're free to defend your masters. I'd expect nothing less from the Marche Erika crowd.

[GostHacked]

20 hours ago, Argus said:

What percentage of the Muslim world do you think approves of homosexuals or Jews?

It does not matter what he thinks, it matters what the facts are.  So what are the facts?

[Canadianjim]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

You're free to defend your masters. I'd expect nothing less from the Marche Erika crowd.

You just got outed for irrational thinking. I don't blame all Christians for what Germany did, A Christian nation. But you blame all muslims for what a few do. I bet you have no idea a few weeks a go a terrorist on the run was captured and tied up by muslims in Germany .They phoned the police but the german police couldn't understand them. So they took a picture of the terrorist  tied  up and went to the police station and showed them. The police then captured the guy. Without those Syrian refugees the terrorist would have been able to commit another act.

[Canadianjim]

1 minute ago, GostHacked said:

It does not matter what he thinks, it matters what the facts are.  So what are the facts?

Why does Iran have  a  Jewish population? Why did Iraq have a Jewish population before America invaded? Facts matter.

[eyeball]

15 hours ago, drummindiver said:

Most of these countries are dictatorships.  The people don't have a say. This has been going on way before the US even existed. 

That's right, and then the US came along waving its Shining Beacon up high where everyone could see it and...

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Of course you dont know this as your knowledge of history has already been exposed as suspect.

...what happened then appears to have been edited or washed from people's memories.  I wonder why anyone would want to do that?

[eyeball]

13 hours ago, drummindiver said:

You are now excusing Muslims that they dont t know any better?

No. I'm condemning Americans. That goalpost is cemented into place. You can try to move it, rephrase what I said, redefine what I mean, and interpret it to mean what you want all you like but I will sit here and bicker with you until the moderators come unglued.

Get it through your head here and now I did not excuse Muslims, I condemned Americans. 

 

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You suget it worse when priests abuse children, which of course it is.  

 

See how hard it was to reinterpret what I said there?  The lack of ambiguity left you no room for misunderstanding redefining, reinterpreting what I meant.  The only way you could have done so would be to defend pedophilic priests right?

So what do you do?  You let your mind squirm like a toad for awhile until it comes up with this...

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You then however support ideology that supports pedophilia by males aND enacts the most barbaric tortures thought of by man.

 

You turn me into a supporter of pedophilia instead.

 

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Disconnect.

Tell me about it.

 

[Argus]

3 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

 An Israeli born Jew...who served in the IDF.,..... who's father was a general in the 67 war . who's grandfather was one of the founders,,

You guys want to discuss Israel take it to the appropriate topic or I'll call in the moderators.

[Argus]

54 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

It does not matter what he thinks, it matters what the facts are.  So what are the facts?

Already presented. You should read a topic through before responding.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Canadianjim said:

And Canada is my country as well. And you don't get to accuse  people with no evidence because of your cowardlyparanoia, Hitler did to the  Jews exactly what you are trying to do to all muslims. The lies are disgusting. 

This is a nonsensical accusation. Hitler exterminated Jews. What some of us are discussing is the merits of keeping religious fanatics who hate Jews and gays from coming to settle in Canada in large numbers. You ought to welcome that. You say you despise religion, and yet you're getting insulting over the idea of keeping foreign religious fanatics from coming to live in Canada. Your stance is confused and inexplicable.

[Canadianjim]

6 minutes ago, Argus said:

This is a nonsensical accusation. Hitler exterminated Jews. What some of us are discussing is the merits of keeping religious fanatics who hate Jews and gays from coming to settle in Canada in large numbers. You ought to welcome that. You say you despise religion, and yet you're getting insulting over the idea of keeping foreign religious fanatics from coming to live in Canada. Your stance is confused and inexplicable.

Yes Hitler did exterminate the Jews. But how did it come to that? It started by lies and propaganda about Jews. A progression that gradually built hate and disgust for Jews. Myths perpetrated to manipulate thinking against Jews. Until eventually people could justify killing them.This stuff did not happen with the snap of a finger. There is a very detailed historical account of the process and the progression that eventually lead to the  concentration camp horrors.

[Argus]

1 minute ago, Canadianjim said:

Yes Hitler did exterminate the Jews. But how did it come to that? It started by lies and propaganda about Jews. A progression that gradually built hate and disgust for Jews. Myths perpetrated to manipulate thinking against Jews. Until eventually people could justify killing them.This stuff did not happen with the snap of a finger. There is a very detailed historical account of the process and the progression that eventually lead to the  concentration camp horrors.

No, it started with centuries of distrust and intolerance for Jews among a fairly unsophisticated people. That was what Hitler built on. The conditions will never be like that in Canada barring a massive breakdown in civilization. And no one is saying untruths about Muslims. Do you deny that the overwhelming sentiment among Muslims in the countries we import immigrants from is extremely hostile to both Jews and gays? Do you deny it's deeply intolerant of liberal moral values and of female equality? No one is making up stuff about Muslims here.