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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump said he would cancel U.S. membership in the TPP and rip open NAFTA and that is exactly what Trump has done.

When Trump acts....Trudeau can only react.

No he hasn't. Please get your facts together. 

When Trump acts, most of the world laughs these days. 

As yet another high ranking CEO walks away. 

JT is taking a page right out of Chretien's book. Fold your hands and let your opponent continue to shoot himself in the foot to his hearts content. Trump is certainly following that script to a T. 

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Just now, Omni said:

No he hasn't. Please get your facts together. 

When Trump acts, most of the world laughs these days.

 

Canada's lumber industry is not laughing....they are paying millions in duty for illegal dumping.

Canada's protected dairy industry is not laughing....they will be sacrificed to stave off a bigger NAFTA hurt.

Canada's border agents are not laughing....they are too busy processing thousands of illegal refugees.

Canada's DND is not laughing....they continue to be NATO deadbeats because of their government.

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Canada's lumber industry is not laughing....they are paying millions in duty for illegal dumping.

Canada's protected dairy industry is not laughing....they will be sacrificed to stave off a bigger NAFTA hurt.

Canada's border agents are not laughing....they are too busy processing thousands of illegal refugees.

Canada's DND is not laughing....they continue to be NATO deadbeats because of their government.

 

 

 

Care to cite nay of this bogus "information" or are you just another Argus spouting unsubstantiated assumptions?

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3 minutes ago, Omni said:

Care to cite nay of this bogus "information" or are you just another Argus spouting unsubstantiated assumptions?

 

I just provided examples of how much Canada is not laughing.

Resolute and other lumber dumpers have already reduced shifts and laid off workers.

https://www.follownews.com/quebec-lumber-workers-among-the-first-to-feel-pain-of-layoffs-from-us-softwood-lumber-dispute-2z57c

Trump acts...Trudeau can only react.

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2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

What does the Trump era mean for Canada? A guide to what’s happened so far

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/us-politics/canada-and-donald-trump-guide/article32788087/

 

The amount of Canadian media bandwidth devoted to Trump is astounding.

Your article seems only to point out what an asshole the world has concluded Trump is. And hey. JT even was able to reign in his wacky "handshake thing".

I bet Macron took a lesson from JT on that score.

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6 minutes ago, Omni said:

Your article seems only to point out what an asshole the world has concluded Trump is.

 

That's the whole point....President Donald Trump has rocked Canada's comfy little world that depended so  much on longstanding U.S. policies.

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Essentially, Ms. Freeland’s post-American world is one where the United States no longer seeks to lead or be a guarantor of the post-1945 global order. Historically, this order has always been essential to Canada (and other middle powers), as it established the rule of law and stability, the fostering of international trade and the creation of international institutions where Canada has a voice at the table.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/chrystia-freeland-must-turn-vision-into-reality/article35222229/

 

If Trump makes deadbeats like Canada squirm by being an "asshole", then I hope he continues to do so in spades.

Trump acts....Trudeau reacts.

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5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

If Trump makes deadbeats like Canada squirm by being an "asshole", then I hope he continues to do so in spades.

Trump acts....Trudeau reacts.

How many more GOP members, how many more CEO's will have to defect, how many more of your citizenry will have to claim their disapproval before you realize you elected an idiot? I guess you must be part of the 30 something percent that just keeps your head in the sand hoping maybe some magical swami will appear and erase all the utterly laughable foibles orange head has created for himself.  Not likely. And it must be pretty quiet in the west wing these days since most everybody has left. Poor donny.

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13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

That's the whole point....President Donald Trump has rocked Canada's comfy little world that depended so  much on longstanding U.S. policies.

 

If Trump makes deadbeats like Canada squirm by being an "asshole", then I hope he continues to do so in spades.

Trump acts....Trudeau reacts.

Except we're not squirming at all. Smart people from both sides are tweaking nafta , and as such we will both benefit. Trump's bs bluster about ripping it up was only that. Real business people know better.

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25 minutes ago, Omni said:

How many more GOP members, how many more CEO's will have to defect, how many more of your citizenry will have to claim their disapproval before you realize you elected an idiot?

 

But you claim that Trump was elected by the EC...and I didn't vote for Trump or Clinton.  

Americans can disapprove all they want....Canadian opinions are largely irrelevant.

Lots of presidents have been idiots, just like your PM is an idiot....so what ?

The difference is that I am not dependent on the idiot things that your PM does, while you are very focused on what my president may do.

 

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Just now, Omni said:

How can we not be focused on the idiotic things this man does on an almost daily basis? And by "we" I don't mean just Canada. 

 

One would fully expect Americans to be watching their own president, but not equal measure and focus from foreigners.

Not unless they were/are so dependent on U.S. policies and actions....none more so than is Canada.

Trump acts....Trudeau reacts.

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

One would fully expect Americans to be watching their own president, but not equal measure and focus from foreigners.

Not unless they were/are so dependent on U.S. policies and actions....none more so than is Canada.

Trump acts....Trudeau reacts.

Oh I 'm sure Americans are watching their own president, especially now, with trepidation as to what sort of embarrassment will he bring us today. We don't have to deal with that having a PM with pretty good approval ratings at home, and really high ones internationally.  

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4 minutes ago, Omni said:

Oh I 'm sure Americans are watching their own president, especially now, with trepidation as to what sort of embarrassment will he bring us today. We don't have to deal with that having a PM with pretty good approval ratings at home, and really high ones internationally.  

 

Actually, your idiot PM has slipped of late, especially domestically.   The honeymoon is over. 

Your PM is an international lightweight, with very little meaningful influence.

Trump has never sought or needed any honeymoon from Canada....it just doesn't matter.

Trump has acted on NAFTA and Trudeau has to react, as he had no other realistic choice.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Actually, your idiot PM has slipped of late, especially domestically.   The honeymoon is over. 

And how long did it take your idiot president to end his honeymoon? Would you care to look at who has the higher approval ratings?

 

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2 minutes ago, Omni said:

And how long did it take your idiot president to end his honeymoon? Would you care to look at who has the higher approval ratings?

 

 

Trump doesn't care about approval ratings...Trudeau and the Liberals have to for political survival, and it is not going well.

Trump was elected to break things...not get Americans (or Canadians) to kiss his ass.

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5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump doesn't care about approval ratings..

Obviously not.

 

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump was elected to break things.

And yes he has sure broke things, and made himself, and somewhat the country, a laughing stock. I guess you either don't see that, or choose to ignore it. That's your problem.

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Just now, Omni said:

Obviously not.

And yes he has sure broke things, and made himself, and somewhat the country, a laughing stock. I guess you either don't see that, or choose to ignore it. That's your problem.

 

Actually, I applaud it.   Needing to be loved by the rest of the world is a Canadian value, not American.  

I want Trump to use this opportunity to give all of the smug anti-American critics in Canada and elsewhere exactly what they have been asking for.

We already know why Canada/Canadians are so glued to what happens in the U.S., a pre-existing condition long before Trump ever came along.

Trump acts....Trudeau reacts.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

We already know why Canada/Canadians are so glued to what happens in the U.S., a pre-existing condition long before Trump ever came along.

Trump acts....Trudeau reacts.

 

Canadians tend to look as to what is happening both within, and beyond our borders. Americans not so much. 

And currently it's more like Trumps acts.....someone else cowers away from the embarrassment of the white house.

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3 minutes ago, Omni said:

Canadians tend to look as to what is happening both within, and beyond our borders. Americans not so much. 

And currently it's more like Trumps acts.....someone else cowers away from the embarrassment of the white house.

 

In fact, Canadians consider the U.S. border an essential resource and access beyond their border at many different levels.

Regardless of Trump's actions, a Canadian response is indicative of just how much influence the U.S. economy and government have.

Even though it has only been a short tenure, the "Trump Effect" is already spawning books and articles in the fine tradition of Canadians past

who have bemoaned the oversized influence of America (e.g. Maude Barlow).

 

I have come to learn that this is normal and expected in Canada, where the obsession with America was existentially normalized long ago.

Just so happens that Trump has the conn now, but it was somebody else before that freaked Canada out and it will be somebody else in the future.

 

 

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

have come to learn that this is normal and expected in Canada, where the obsession with America

We like it mostly because of the winter weather in the south.

 

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Just so happens that Trump has the conn now,

Trump doesn't have the con, but he may become the con. Look at all the court cases he is facing after impeachment.

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1 minute ago, Omni said:

We like it mostly because of the winter weather in the south.

Trump doesn't have the con, but he may become the con. Look at all the court cases he is facing after impeachment.

 

No, the U.S. border is essential to Canada for several reasons, far beyond the usual snowbird escapees and overstaying illegals.

I live close to the Canadian border, but it may as well be Mongolia for all I care or need to cross it.   Just no reason to ever do so.

Trump is the U.S. president for now, and impeachment is no guarantee of his departure.  Just ask President Bill Clinton.

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Another piece...these are easy to find from over the past year.   Lots and lots of Canadian articles that gird for the "Trump effect":

 

Six dramatic ways Trump has already upended the world, and Canada

 

http://www.680news.com/2017/01/27/six-dramatic-ways-trump-already-upended-world-canada/

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