Should Canada screen potential immigrants/refugees for Canadian Values

[Smoke]

Funny how lot's of "progressives" are claiming "freedom of religion" when it has to do with muslims. Yet when it comes to christians they are all about making society more secular.

Maybe there's some truth to the idea that "progressives" are really only interested in finding fault with those who's lives make them jealous (ie. people that have been hard working contributors to society). It's why I have been purging "progressives" from my circle of friends and family for several years now. No use for them.

[jacee]

Muslims in particular as all the Islamic terrorists attacks prove.

Everything I hold dear, anyways. Like equality of the sexes, freedom of speech, etc. Just because these concepts aren't important to you, others find them rather paramount. Plus, if you truly want to live life as a Muslim, there are at least 57 countries where you can wear a veil to your heart's desire...or your husband's heart's desire. Since you're property...n' all.

Freedom of religion in Canada ... except for Muslims?

I guess you don't hold it too dear.

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Edited September 15, 2016 by jacee

[DogOnPorch]

Freedom of religion in Canada ... except for Muslims?

I guess you don't hold it too dear.

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I hold freedom FROM religion dearer.

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I hold freedom FROM religion dearer.

Why can't we hold them equally dear?

[DogOnPorch]

Why can't we hold them equally dear?

Because religion...Islam in particular...imposes itself on the unbeliever.

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Because religion...Islam in particular...imposes itself on the unbeliever.

That's not an answer to the question that I asked.

[DogOnPorch]

That's not an answer to the question that I asked.

Yes it is: Islam imposes itself...I don't want to be imposed upon.

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Yes it is: Islam imposes itself...I don't want to be imposed upon.

Canada's system of government and Constitutional protections make certain that Islam is not imposed on you, but also that you don't impose on Islam. I think it's a great system.

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http://angusreid.org/transgender-issues/

Another product of Canadian values that I'm sure Argus is all for.

Accept AND accommodate. That's the Canadian way.

[DogOnPorch]

Canada's system of government and Constitutional protections make certain that Islam is not imposed on you, but also that you don't impose on Islam. I think it's a great system.

Oh really? Halal Certification...for one...says otherwise. I have no choice in my small city...all Halal Certified. I pay for that. I don't want to. You pay for it, too, if your food suppliers in Manitoba take that route.

Edited September 15, 2016 by DogOnPorch

[Smallc]

Oh really? Halal Certification...for one...says otherwise.

That says nothing about it actually.

I have no choice in my small city...all Halal Certified.

You have a lot of choice. Get things brought in. Start your own non halal business. Move.

I pay for that.

And that has nothing to do with the government or your freedom of and from religion - nothing.

[DogOnPorch]

That says nothing about it actually.

You have a lot of choice. Get things brought in. Start your own non halal business. Move.

And that has nothing to do with the government or your freedom of and from religion - nothing.

You don't understand the food industry. Suppliers supply to the stores. The demand is for Halal products...a growing market in almost every community. Not Kosher or any other lark. You...the consumer...pay for certification at the check-out. The store doesn't eat the cost or any other BS you want to attempt.

[Smallc]

You don't understand the food industry. Suppliers supply to the stores. The demand is for Halal products...a growing market in almost every community. Not Kosher or any other lark. You...the consumer...pay for certification at the check-out. The store doesn't eat the cost or any other BS you want to attempt.

Nothing you said there makes sense given what I said. I assure you, my local butcher is not halal. You're not making much sense, I have to confess.

[DogOnPorch]

Nothing you said there makes sense given what I said. I assure you, my local butcher is not halal. You're not making much sense, I have to confess.

You're free to deny it's happening.

[BC_chick]

Mmmm, nothing like sitting down to a hot steaming plate of factory farmed beef and bitching about the way those barbaric cultures suck the life of their animals.

[DogOnPorch]

Mmmm, nothing like sitting down to a hot steaming plate of factory farmed beef and bitching about the way those barbaric cultures suck the life of their animals.

I wasn't aware we sacrifice animals to Bronze Age deities. But there we go...

[ironstone]

When this question get's asked,I think of the Khadr and Shafia families who brought their poisonous attitudes here so I say yes,we should screen them.Why not try and weed out people like this?

[DogOnPorch]

....and here's the puzzling bit for Dog. All these things should upset BC Chick....and would upset BC Chick if I did it...an 'Old Stock Canadian' as I've been tagged.

Edited September 15, 2016 by DogOnPorch

[cybercoma]

Back in the halal schtick. Maybe you should take it up with the companies. They're the ones who, in your own words, opt for certification. Nothing imposed about it.

Halal certs. What a silly argument.

[DogOnPorch]

Back in the halal schtick. Maybe you should take it up with the companies. They're the ones who, in your own words, opt for certification. Nothing imposed about it.

Halal certs. What a silly argument.

Why doesn't paying a religious tax bother you?

[cybercoma]

Because you're not FORCED to buy halal anything!

[DogOnPorch]

Because you're not FORCED to buy halal anything!

I guess I could start shooting moose.

You must live in a large city.

[cybercoma]

I call BS that you can't find anything in your entire town that's not Halal and even if that's the case you're still not FORCED to buy it. Shop in another town. Buy things online. Complain to the stores. I don't give a crap but you're not FORCED to buy it no matter how many times you say it. More importantly, you're not suddenly forced to be Muslim because you picked up a package of halal chicken for dinner last night. If you don't like the products available to you then complain to the businesses. It's their prerogative to carry whatever they want. Unless stores suddenly don't have the freedom to choose the products they want to carry. Is that what you're arguing?

[DogOnPorch]

I call BS that you can't find anything in your entire town that's not Halal and even if that's the case you're still not FORCED to buy it. Shop in another town. Buy things online. Complain to the stores. I don't give a crap but you're not FORCED to buy it no matter how many times you say it. More importantly, you're not suddenly forced to be Muslim because you picked up a package of halal chicken for dinner last night. If you don't like the products available to you then complain to the businesses. It's their prerogative to carry whatever they want. Unless stores suddenly don't have the freedom to choose the products they want to carry. Is that what you're arguing?

Good for you.

Halal Certification is merely another invention of zee evil DogOnPorch to make zee Mooselims look baaaaad.

Edited September 15, 2016 by DogOnPorch

[eyeball]

I have been purging "progressives" from my circle of friends and family for several years now. No use for them.

I guess all that's missing is a government that'll do the same.